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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mtbromo] * 1
    #27046640 - 11/19/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Shouldn't be a problem.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AtmozFear]
    #27046653 - 11/19/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol oh I mean jar filter

They had some kind of meter gauging contams




Ah never used polyfil for a jar filter but I won't be using micropore again. The bullshit residue alone is the only reason I need. I have 100 1" SFDs now and lots of my lids I put beading felt on as a filter are still going strong. They'll get replaced by the SFDs though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27046658 - 11/19/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

What’s wrong with the residue?  And I don’t replace the tape often anyway :shrug:

But yes SFD’s are optimal


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AtmozFear]
    #27046691 - 11/19/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Okay so I was talking about these before and I'm going hard on it.


Taking inspiration from that fella who spawned to bags then cut the bags and put them in a monotub, Mudas bottle tek, RR saying coir and grain mixed are more nutritious than hpoo, and PastyWhytes experiments with spawn ratios

The reasoning behind it is I want to use monotubs but I want to maximize the amount I can get from a monotub before contamination sets in, or god forbid I spawn something with hidden contams. When green mold hits a monotub it's game over for the whole thing. Seeing what that bag in monotub guy was doing made me realize that I could fit more sub/spawn in a monotub without having to deal with the center going anaerobic.

So I can fit 15 (dropping back from 16 wasn't working for me too tight causing the walls of the containers to bend probably leading to lots of side pins) x 1qt soup containers in my big monotubs. Each soup container has 1/3 quart of spawn and the rest is CVG. for the sake of argument let's just pretend 66% of each soup container is CVG.

So in one monotub with 15 of them you end up utilizing  5 quarts of spawn. and around 10 quarts of CVG.

Due to the deep nature of them I believe they'll hold an excellent amount of water for a big full flush on top without the danger of going anaerobic. If that does happen at all I could just simply pop a few pin holes in the sides.

So lets say for the sake of argument each makes it to a 3rd flush. I'm not sure what the reality of it would be in possible dry weight if everything went right.. I've been messing with the bolivian marching powder all night so math hurts. 

I make each one by filling each container with grain spawn from one jar but I leave about 2" of grain spawn in the jar for after. Then I fill each one with CVG til about 2" from the top of the container. I put their lids on and shake shake shake shake until it's proper mixed, I add more CVG if need be to get it about 1 1/2" from the top of the container. Then I take the grain spawn I held back and make a small layer of just spawn atop the mixed spawn/cvg.
Then atop this I lay down around 3/4" of CVG as a casing. My reasoning behind that is I want a strong and consistent myc network underneath the casing. Like a distribution center for all the water and nutrition below. Evenly supplying it to the top of the casing layer.

Then I can either keep the lid on with a hole poked in it to let it colonize or I can put them in a monotub right away lid off.

Now I need to work a monotub design that can work with the substrate level being up so high. I'm testing one traditional pasty micropore design right now. It seems to be doing alright for the first containers. These containers did not get the small layer of spawn below the casing.


Harvesting should be very easy, rehydration will not be as easy so there will be more work involved as I have to rehydrate 15 subs instead of 1.

The containers were so cheap I thought it was a mistake. They're PP5 so if I wanted to I could throw them in the dishwasher but I'm sure with the price I'll treat them just like a liner. Please don't get upset I've already gone to buy biodegradable ones made of paper and wax. I'm going to do a test with them but I have a feeling the myc might try to eat them.



The white ones are biodegradable paper coated with something that allows it to hold hot soup. The lids are PP5. If these work and the myc don't chew them up it will make disposing of my spent sub as easy as just burying the whole thing in my garden.

So there's 1/3 of quart (roughly) per container of oat spawn in these ones. Then roughly 2/3 of CVG. Now I just need to figure out how to turn this into BE to calculate what to expect at 100% BE -> 200% BE.

I also need to find the right genetics that would play well with this sort of thing.

I knocked up enough jars with Averys and PEU LC (Not mixed) to make 157 containers so far. The cost of those containers was $13 for 150
The goal right now is to use this first run I've already spawned to try and dial in a monotub design that works with their height.

Edit: Aw fuck it's already been done, oh well haha. Onwards!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27046891 - 11/19/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You don’t need to redesign the tub to fruit bottles or bags in. Just be sure the tub is as full as it can be and it’s good to go generally. Dial as you would for normal bulk.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27046959 - 11/19/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Really? It don't matter the holes are down yonder? Fuckin MINT, thanks Pasty you the man.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27046991 - 11/19/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Jesus fucking christ, are we allowed to post links to Reddit on here? You NEED to read the bullshit coming out of this guys mouth.

He got sold King Oyster spores and is adamant that the FAE choked mass of King Oyster abortions is cubensis, holy shit you really need to read it.
Just try not to punch anything valuable.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27047012 - 11/19/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You can post any link here


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27047016 - 11/19/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Were the spores from spores101? Cause that’s pretty normal for them.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27047034 - 11/19/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.reddit.com/r/MushroomGrowers/comments/juix1r/actives_interesting_results_of_p_cubensis/

There you go, have fun. Take a trip down the rabbit hole of insanity that is AtticFinch and his "Totally not a King Oyster it's cubensis it was an experiment try it yourself or go away."

He did say to crosspost it to Shroomery to solicit feedback. Mine is a white coat with buckles and a funny little padded room.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27047048 - 11/19/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm hoping you guys can tell me if I should do anything regarding my cakes. I birthed 6 BRF cakes 1 month ago. Two of them were GT, the other four were PF Classic.

The GT cakes fruited just fine, the PF cakes all literally have one pin with no signs of growth. Again this is after a month.

Fruiting conditions are fine; SGFC, 5" of perlite, 6500k light, and normal misting.

The only thing is the room is colder than normal, maybe 68-69 degrees at times.

Do you guys recommend I do anything to somehow get these cakes to grow? Or are they a lost cause after a month, despite having a pin on each cake?

Thanks.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #27047053 - 11/19/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm hoping you guys can tell me if I should do anything regarding my cakes. I birthed 6 BRF cakes 1 month ago. Two of them were GT, the other four were PF Classic.

The GT cakes fruited just fine, the PF cakes all literally have one pin with no signs of growth. Again this is after a month.

Fruiting conditions are fine; SGFC, 5" of perlite, 6500k light, and normal misting.

The only thing is the room is colder than normal, maybe 68-69 degrees at times.

Do you guys recommend I do anything to somehow get these cakes to grow? Or are they a lost cause after a month, despite having a pin on each cake?

Thanks.



Post pics mofo.  There is literally zero way to troubleshoot something we can't see


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #27047096 - 11/19/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Post pics mofo.  There is literally zero way to troubleshoot something we can't see




These are the cakes which have one pin on each and show no signs of growth after a month. All cakes were given 7-9 days for consolidation.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #27047101 - 11/19/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I would back off on the misting a bit, evaporation is the #1 pinning trigger


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #27047102 - 11/19/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Those cakes look soaked and logged. A bit bacterial as well.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27047164 - 11/19/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Jesus fucking christ, are we allowed to post links to Reddit on here? You NEED to read the bullshit coming out of this guys mouth.

He got sold King Oyster spores and is adamant that the FAE choked mass of King Oyster abortions is cubensis, holy shit you really need to read it.
Just try not to punch anything valuable.





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27047176 - 11/19/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

How do these look? Been struggling to keep humidity up, was around 40-50% for a couple weeks, then picked up a humidifier so the aerial mycelium stopped where they're at now. Just got the humidifier in there a couple days ago but my friend is getting impatient. He's used to quicker pinning. The one lacking aerial mycelium is a treasure coast, two of these are B+ and two are GT. He has several more jars he wants to get into this chamber but is afraid to screw them all up.





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #27047233 - 11/19/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Those cakes look soaked and logged. A bit bacterial as well.




I just misted those so that's why they're glistening. Other than that, it would surprise me if they're logged because I mist at max twice a day, 12 hrs apart. But thanks for the input I will see if misting less helps.

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I would back off on the misting a bit, evaporation is the #1 pinning trigger




Gotcha. I'll mist even less then.

Do you guys think they can still fruit? Or a lost cause at this point?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #27047287 - 11/19/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Let me go until they either show signs of mold or you get tired of looking at them.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27047307 - 11/19/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Let me go until they either show signs of mold or you get tired of looking at them.



Let me go? Toss them you mean? That's a fucking shame if so..


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