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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #27042603 - 11/16/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
    #27042704 - 11/16/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I never know and usually say both. "B plus or b positive whatever you call it"


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27042712 - 11/16/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

positive. I think B+ is supposed to be a pun. Be Positive.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #27042855 - 11/16/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm pritty sure noface is gone. Has not replied in days last heard he was dropping stuff off to a friend. And that was on the 12th.....

I hope it is just over reaction but it is strange.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trippytimes]
    #27042995 - 11/16/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Beeplus.

When is a mushrooms final absolute size determined? I know cell division stops at some point and then the cells just engorge with water but it's got me curious. If growth is stunted by high CO2 or cold temperatures can it still achieve size or is the final maximum size of the fruit determined at the pin stage?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27043088 - 11/16/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I’d think genetically the maximum size is locked in as a pin but whether or not it hits that size potential is heavily affected by environment.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27043145 - 11/17/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, shit eh.

Couldn't get enough FAE in those bags so I got skinny small capped fruits in some bags, gigantic blob monsters in the others. On the upside first flush from the first bag to be harvested so far was 337g, skinny fruits but rock solid because I'm fruiting at 65 and had no fuckin fae, haha.

I modified a pile of monotubs and cut the bags off except for the part around the loaf of sub/spawn so got those in there now, 4-5 per tub. All sealed up with micropore so hopefully they stay protected.

Fogged my place today with pyrethrin to kill any remaining bugs that might be here. Smells real pretty now.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27043259 - 11/17/20 04:01 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Does anyone have a link to a good resource discussing the differences in spawn ratios, casing and the difference between PE varieties?

I'm just curious why some spawn ratios cause blobs and overlay and weird shit like that. I've tried searching but every tek is basically just a recipe to get mushrooms, not an explanation.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27043298 - 11/17/20 05:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

My very first PE jars will be spawned this week and from then on I'll try to extract as much info as I can about the hot topics regarding bulk sub PE. Also I have a handful of colonizing PE cakes growing on oatmeal and coir and fruiting those in a Water Tub HC will feel like Christmas eve for me Im really curious to see how those turn out since I've been reading for 4 years about PE cakes supposedly producing dissapointing flushes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #27043347 - 11/17/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The theory I’ve seen about a lot of spawn is there’s too much nutrition.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27043365 - 11/17/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Too much?
That is odd and to my brain counter intuitive but I am interested. I know white button farmers use some pretty insane ratios.

I have started a project with 1qt pp5 disposable containers filled with a mix of 1:3 wbs spawn to coir and cased. Very little spawn all things considered. Very interested to see how much yield one can obtain per container. 18 containers fit in one of my 86qt tubs. I really like what I saw with muda bottles and such. Plus it one goes shitty the entire tub isn't fucked.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27043401 - 11/17/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

You’ll probably get like 10-15g dry from 1/3 quart of wbs.

Did you do muda bottles?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27043424 - 11/17/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nah on the muda bottles. They're 1 quart deli soup containers.. PP5 but I don't think they would PC without imploding. Muda def had what looks to be way more nutrition in his bottles but if I'm trusting RR CVG and grain is just as nutritious as anything, apparently, allegedly.

Just took three containers, broke up a jar of spawn and poured the same amount in each container. Filled up the rest except for about an inch and a half from the top with CVG, put a lid on and shook each one well. Then put a handful of CVG on top of the grain/CVG, leveled it off. Put the lids back on and poked a GE hole to colonized. Once they looked about 70% of the way or so I removed the lids gave them a mist and put them in a monotub, 16 in one not 18 sorry.

That doesn't sound like a bad yield at all. At 10g worst case that's ~1600g, best case at 15g around ~2400g. Assuming they all make it I could deal with that. I don't think there would be much out of second flushes or if it would have jam for a 3rd but who knows. Just playing around right now.

What would tickle my ballsack would be a full ounce per container over the flushes. I could go for near a pound of dry per monotubs worth of space anyday. I just really like the idea that if one trichs out I've only lost 1/16th of the monotub and harvesting would be a snap.

For $5 for 50 of the containers with lids.. why not eh? Just more work is all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #27043446 - 11/17/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I dont really know where this goes but I found this super cool article on erowid about the history of mushroom cultivation, even how cubensis etc got chosen to be the most popular species to grow, check it out:

https://erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_article10.shtml


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27043447 - 11/17/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Does anyone have a link to a good resource discussing the differences in spawn ratios, casing and the difference between PE varieties?

I'm just curious why some spawn ratios cause blobs and overlay and weird shit like that. I've tried searching but every tek is basically just a recipe to get mushrooms, not an explanation.




Pasty made a penis variety thread a lil while ago. Maybe ask there?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
    #27043492 - 11/17/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Yeetusdeetus said:
Quote:

Myc_Hunt said:
Does anyone have a link to a good resource discussing the differences in spawn ratios, casing and the difference between PE varieties?

I'm just curious why some spawn ratios cause blobs and overlay and weird shit like that. I've tried searching but every tek is basically just a recipe to get mushrooms, not an explanation.




Pasty made a penis variety thread a lil while ago. Maybe ask there?




I don't like jumping into his threads with stupid questions. He gets plenty all day. I'll re read it and see if it answers any questions, it's been a few months since I've read through it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Wall.E]
    #27043573 - 11/17/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think regular PE is the only one that really needs a casing. I haven’t grown PEu and rarely see anybody posting grows with it but there’s plenty of good ape and Melmak tubs with no casing.


I remember reading that even though high spawn ratio can cause blobbing it you let it consolidate for a while before fruiting it that it’ll also grow normally. Idk if that’s for real or not though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #27043582 - 11/17/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I've been running peu only the past few months cause i slowed down. Granted it's the "White" clone, but it runs as easy as any other cube without weird struggles like PE. Full tub in my sig is an example in unmodded shoebox.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #27043746 - 11/17/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Does it make sense that under hydrated grains may not sterilize properly in the PC? Obviously get the moisture content right regardless but I am trying to understand something...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sherlock Shrooms]
    #27043837 - 11/17/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I like casing cause it’s a nice pinning surface. Top layer at spawn is almost as good and easier tho.


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