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Moabfighter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26977585 - 10/09/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: Just ordered my first syringes in about four years. Wish me luck
Fuck yea!
How you been moab?
Been great man. Little man was a baby baby when I started. He’s in kindergarten now. Time flies. It’s close to Halloween and I was thinking about the shrooms. Went through my pics and was like “fuck....I used to actually be able to do this stuff” and I’m not good at much hear me out, so I was like man I need to try again. Sucks starting from spore. I used to do agar and all that i think. Actually I got contamination mostly :p I’ll learn though. Starting back with the basic PF I guess.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#26977588 - 10/09/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is Azur still around? Good guy, he had a fucking nice setup and was a gentleman and bought drinks for everyone one night.
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Dracultivation, that’s what agar is all about. Germinate spores or throw some tissue on and it almost doesn’t matter how dirty the plate is as long as there’s enough clean myc to cut a little wedge of it you can transfer that. Hopefully it will come over clean but even if not you should have an even better chance on the next one.
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Yes, sir. Just take a few transfers from areas that aren't taken over by the bacteria. Mold is a but tricker. You have to move real slow from the time you begin to open the plate until the transfer is complete. Any slight movement could stir up the mold spores and drop em right onto your transfer plate.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dhearic]
#26977660 - 10/09/20 09:23 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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One oat ain't like the other even from the same place I'm finding out now.
In ~600kg of oats I'm running into my first prep day of problems.
I dump my 25kg bags of oats into 121l Rubbermaid garbage bins for storage as not to feed the house mice or any rats that might come crawling around and these last six bags had a bunch of corn in them. I asked the Agro place I got them from and they tell me that the oats arrive from various farmers they get bagged and are sold as feed. There's no brand on them or anything more than a tag with a barcode and the contents. So some oats might be X variant some might be Y variant.
Well now I'm bursting oats doing the same prep I've done all year. Was using Bods method and going by feel of the oats when I pulled a sample out of the boil. Once on my gigantic strainer there were so many mush. So I switched to Eats method which is dump the oats into boiling water and remove from heat and by 40 minutes, too many burst. So I throw those on the strainer figuring I'll do 30 and mix them together. Well, lots of burst ones in the 30 minute load too. Learn something new everyday and I guess I shoulda seen this coming.
All sorts of different companies selling all sorts of different oats to farmers. Some might be better for milling some might be better for feed from what I'm reading which I guess puts the question out there.
Is there a superior out out there for this hobby? The general overview is here of the qualities for each but that doesn't delve down into the differences in between all the oats meant for milling or vice versa. As you can see there are some things between the two generalizations that pertain to this hobby no? Things like lignin (I did read that lignin is bioavailable in coir though) high vs low oil, starch gelatinizing, grain hardness (These three I think would affect prep)

Makes me wonder if thats why some people claim they've had nothing but problems with oats when up until now oats were the easiest prepping grain on the planet.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Moabfighter]
#26977667 - 10/09/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: Is Azur still around? Good guy, he had a fucking nice setup and was a gentleman and bought drinks for everyone one night.
He got permabanned for doxxing someone. Bod I think.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26977680 - 10/09/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is PE and APE really that much more potent/worth growing? I have grown like 10 different varieties over time and just never got into the PE stuff, maybe it's time
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PreparationH]
#26977703 - 10/09/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is totally worth it. Growing regular PE is a new type of challenge too because a proper casing is so important..
They are usually quite a bit more potent than other cubes gram for gram, plus the novelty is rad, but I enjoy tripping on other varieties sometimes too despite needing to take more. I am one of those folks who somehow, in spite of all evidence to the contrary (cube is a cube), believe I experience different consistent themes or accents with different varieties.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psicomb]
#26977718 - 10/09/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cooking up my pf jars now. Another 45 minutes to go. Spores won’t be here for a few days. It’ll be alright.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mtbromo] 1
#26977742 - 10/09/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trying to get good jars with a 11psi PC
This is Foo mans wbs tek cooked for 2.5hrs at 11psi
Does it look OK?
#dirtynewb
it looks perfect good job. don't worry. i started out with a 11 psi instant pot too and my grain jars worked fine. you'll want to upgrade when you get a chance though.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
#26977769 - 10/09/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks bro 
I was scared the extra cooking time would dry out the jars. There's one or two places in my whole state that sell 15psi PC one is totally sold out. The other one is inacessible due to covid lockdown and restrictions
I can not wait to get one! The current one only fits 3 quart jars takes me like 9 hours to PC 9 jars
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mtbromo]
#26977801 - 10/10/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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extra PC time wouldn't dry out grain jars. it would make them mushy. but 2.5 hrs is not that extra. 9 hours? damn that's slow. it takes that long to get up to pressure?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
#26977814 - 10/10/20 12:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I recently started doing four hours for big millet bags like the Southwest mushrooms guy. It's not just the length of time, it's a combination of that and how much moisture you've got in there to begin with. More time with more moisture means more problems and burst grains etc etc, but if you've got your moisture content dialed in even with extended pressure cooking times you should be good in the burst grain / mushiness department.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26977825 - 10/10/20 12:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well shit.... I'm gunna have to try four hours with my millet now. Sounds like a dream come true if I soak less and get less mess.
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Well if you like easy as a dream... I can't believe this post was applicable in three separate threads tonight lol.
Here is easy for ya. 👇
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Funky Monkey said: In answer to the same question elsewhere I just posted this in another thread:
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Funky Monkey said: #NoPrepMilletGang
I was stuck in the hills without wifi when this got cereally rolling (i think). Got a link to the best thread on it? I'm curious.
I got the idea/process from Southwest mushrooms on YouTube, his process was the most simple I have ever seen and he grow thousands of pounds a month. It got taken down unfortunately for some reason, so it wasn't available for me to go back and reference when I was trying to remember his exact water ratios, but I remembered his process other than his ratio. So I took to the shroomery to find someones water to millet ratios for bags and adapted it to the process I had seen the Southwest mushrooms guy do. I found a couple different write-ups here. While not as simple (I skip a good amount of what he does) this was the closest thing I could find on the shroomery.
I will probably do a write up soon because I am in love with how white trash easy this shit is.
Decide what you want your final bag weight to be, calculate what 30% of that weight is and that is your moisture content for bags. Weigh your grain, and weigh your water so it's the exact same every time, put them in the bag and PC.
I don't soak, rinse, simmer, do that dry rinse step that guy I linked to does, or anything... Get your calculations right for moisture to grain ratios and PC them bitches.
Done.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26977948 - 10/10/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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PE is 100% worth doing. Ape is whatever unless you’ve got a really good culture.
Not only has PE been significantly more potent than almost anything else but it yields a ton too. My first two spore grows both put out 350g first flushes from one quart, then I took three clones and all of them put out 490-520g first flushes off one quart of spawn. Legit one and done grows.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26978157 - 10/10/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Funky Monkey said: I recently started doing four hours for big millet bags like the Southwest mushrooms guy.
I used to watch that video for reference, I think he deleted it. Do you have a link? Funny that you bring that up, I've been looking for days.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26978334 - 10/10/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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He made the video private, and i was so butthurt about it, his method seemed so simple! I even went so far as to message him on Facebook about said video, but didn't get any response. I only watched the video once and 65% or 67% was sticking in my head for some reason, but now that makes sense that the water content would be 33-35%. Thank for the link Monkey 
I've done a couple rounds of jars where i just soak the WBS for 16 hours, strain for 30 minutes, load'n'go, and i'm pretty happy with that, but shit loading with WBS+water straight into the PC would be even better.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
#26978385 - 10/10/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah sorry P, MLP is right he just randomly revoked access for everybody I guess. I too messaged him on various social media platforms and even emailed. No response. I guess when you've got USA today coming to your location to do big stories about mushroom cultivation you can pick and choose the lowly people you interact with lol
I did commit the entire Tek to memory though except for what his exact water to grain ratio was. But through researching other stuff and doing some test runs 30% water content seems to be golden.
I'm going to write this up soon I think, I love it and I think more people would once they start cutting out all that grain prep work.
Laziness is a virtue too...
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