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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fietchen]
    #26931744 - 09/12/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

those fruits are water logged man and its not from just misting them  look at the texture and colour of the stipes they even have a vert look to them and im sure they r stressed and bruising from being fucked with over n over this whole time. being too wet is just as bad as being to dry you want that happy middle ground. also did u roll the entire cakes in verm or just sprinkle the tops and bottoms?? i cant tell if they were rolled and then got colonized over. but  it dont matter they are not happy the only way ur gnna learn is by doing this several times over man we can give u the basics and lead u in the right direction but the call has to be made by u. and the only way ur gnna get it down is to just keep doing it and paying attention to what ur doing and if its not working then try something else eventually ul see it and it will click in ur head when u see thats what they like. trial and error man thats really it. but u are ur own worst enemy here man. u need to not always convince urself that you need to be doing something to them. its really not that hard man. all i can say is mist when it needs misting fanning is pointless dont move them around and handle them all the time just leave them be. and dont be using a giant fc for just 2 tiny cakes. like weve all said over n over u just gtta use ur best judgement and if that dont do it then do something else but those things are working against u already just cuz u hav already done so much damage to them.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jcm4620]
    #26931791 - 09/12/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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those fruits are water logged man and its not from just misting them  look at the texture and colour of the stipes they even have a vert look to them and im sure they r stressed and bruising from being fucked with over n over this whole time. being too wet is just as bad as being to dry you want that happy middle ground. also did u roll the entire cakes in verm or just sprinkle the tops and bottoms?? i cant tell if they were rolled and then got colonized over. but  it dont matter they are not happy the only way ur gnna learn is by doing this several times over man we can give u the basics and lead u in the right direction but the call has to be made by u. and the only way ur gnna get it down is to just keep doing it and paying attention to what ur doing and if its not working then try something else eventually ul see it and it will click in ur head when u see thats what they like. trial and error man thats really it. but u are ur own worst enemy here man. u need to not always convince urself that you need to be doing something to them. its really not that hard man. all i can say is mist when it needs misting fanning is pointless dont move them around and handle them all the time just leave them be. and dont be using a giant fc for just 2 tiny cakes. like weve all said over n over u just gtta use ur best judgement and if that dont do it then do something else but those things are working against u already just cuz u hav already done so much damage to them.




Alright, appreciate that jcm, I won't touch them further and I'll mist them less.

I just want to say I never touched this one much at all apart from moving it out to clean the perlite so I didn't know why it was so blue.

I already water-bottomed the second cake for experimental purposes (pins weren't growing like this cake), I'll let you know how that goes but won't touch this one.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26931827 - 09/12/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and my bad yes I did roll the entire cake, it just colonized the verm on the sides.

edit: Also I notice the cake is drying very fast (opposed to the other cake which is fine) probably because of the mushrooms, and it is still turning more blue. I don't know why it's struggling but I'm trying my best.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26931909 - 09/12/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Why this happening with the bf tek method? The rice i mix in are not same in each bag... I make a Substrat for 4 bags with 350g substrate in it but in some are more rice than in others and i mix everything a lot in my tube.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fietchen]
    #26932041 - 09/12/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

lol you gotta mix the verm and brf first and then add water. Super easy.

What happened with your lc bags?


Rick that’s why I hate cakes and always say shoebox should be the go to first grow. They’re so much easier and yield way more. Cakes kinda require some level of skill and knowing what you’re doing. Shoeboxes you mix some stuff in a tub and come collect mushrooms a couple weeks later.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26932063 - 09/12/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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lol you gotta mix the verm and brf first and then add water. Super easy.

What happened with your lc bags?


Rick that’s why I hate cakes and always say shoebox should be the go to first grow. They’re so much easier and yield way more. Cakes kinda require some level of skill and knowing what you’re doing. Shoeboxes you mix some stuff in a tub and come collect mushrooms a couple weeks later.





I found a recipe and they say water and vermiculite first than flower.

One bag are shaking days ago looking good now but the jar looking great too also give it shake days ago






Than you can see the Bag i build with a vacuum maker and bags. The Bag holding 350g substrate i Injecting 15ml of LC in 5 angle than i make tiny holes in it and cover each hole with micropore tape. I know people say jars are the way to go but why not bags filled with the substrate? It's way more flexible and easy to use thow it away later on. But i hope the mycelium loves it only worry are the tiny holes from the nail are they enough for air exchange? And don't worry the 15ml of LC are not enough because i add les water in the recipe because i know i add some more lc in it so that's all my Theorie lol

Wish me luck.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fietchen]
    #26932089 - 09/12/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

They make grow bags for that exact purpose

About 10 years ago I tried to jerry rig my own grow bags from oven bags and other shit. Always caused failure for me.

Hopefully you have better results. I guess the vacuum sealer bags are made of PP plastic then?


This is what many of us use




Also, fuck jars for bulk they are way too much work, so you're right about plastic being a better alternative, but at like $0.50 cents a grow bag these ones are still pretty cost effective


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26932090 - 09/12/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't zoom in, is that a pf tek bag?

Might be a first for me seeing one of those


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26932109 - 09/12/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I didn't zoom in, is that a pf tek bag?

Might be a first for me seeing one of those





PF Tek right but i make my own style but with the ratio of the recipe. My only worry are the right moisture when i touch it it feel slightly moist but there is no holing together from the substrate very loose when you shake the pieces fall everywhere is that normal? I using 360ml flower 720ml vermiculite and 340ml water. Mixing all together and make 4 bags with 350ml substrate and i Injecting 15ml lc in each bag so looking everything is on point from the recipe.

I don't think the pastik bags will fail because i using it like a jar with the same protection but holes i pork later in it after Sterilisation. Each bag has 5 holes with micropore tape.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26932114 - 09/12/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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They make grow bags for that exact purpose

About 10 years ago I tried to jerry rig my own grow bags from oven bags and other shit. Always caused failure for me.

Hopefully you have better results. I guess the vacuum sealer bags are made of PP plastic then?


This is what many of us use




Also, fuck jars for bulk they are way too much work, so you're right about plastic being a better alternative, but at like $0.50 cents a grow bag these ones are still pretty cost effective




I think so they are for food but don't know what art of Plastik


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fietchen]
    #26932140 - 09/12/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If one were to go to school and earn their chemist's licensing and then correct uncle festers guide, set up a lab, hand cultivate a field of ergot (cult  gen discussion applies loosely still:smoker:), and cook your own precursors you could potentially make some nice fluff. Not a cheap endeavor, but anything worth doing...

So back to me burned out dehydrator. Each new one they send has a 3yr warranty lol now they've updated their return policy and all I have to do is send a picture of the plug cut off the unit showing the serial number on the prong. As for last nights lil zip I dried them on my space heater. Got the big digital lasko ceramic element unit.  Pointed the vent straight up and just set my tray and lid on top. Cracker dry by the morning.:awesome:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #26932200 - 09/12/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Wouldnt it be easier to extract LSA from hbwr seeds and convert it into LSD?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26932222 - 09/12/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm listening...

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26932230 - 09/12/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i dont think anything to do with any part of LSD synth is an easy process. and it def shouldnt be taken up by any ol half ass chemist. i wouldnt want that product.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26932233 - 09/12/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’d prob just take the clean lsa.

The most mindblowing stuff I’ve ever experienced was from lsa and a whole lotta bong hits. Laying with my eyes closed it was like I was inside some giant tron dome and could somehow see in 360* at once.

The only thing with lsa is at least for me it requires weed. Just lsa is like a little campfire and then adding even a little weed is like shooting a firehose of gas into the fire.


Yeah if lsd synth was anything but absurdly difficult there’d be way more of it. And when people get busted you wouldn’t see stats like one man was creating 90% of the world supply.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26932243 - 09/12/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Funky: "Every decent chemist started somewhere..."

Three dead people and a life sentence later...

Funky (staring at the judge): 😳







No worries, I don't think I am gonna do it...

:piss::rofl:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26932285 - 09/12/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

3 of 4 bags are ready for colognising :wink:



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fietchen]
    #26932300 - 09/12/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

no dont pour cologne on them 😂😂


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jcm4620]
    #26932377 - 09/12/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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i dont think anything to do with any part of LSD synth is an easy process. and it def shouldnt be taken up by any ol half ass chemist. i wouldnt want that product.



Amen.
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jcm4620 said:
no dont pour cologne on them 😂😂



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26932443 - 09/12/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it’s like a 26 step process( or so I saw on the movie orange sunshine) pretty good movie. It’s not that easy and involves some serious chemicals your not going to find at walmart


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