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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26913621 - 09/02/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yesum said:
U can use either or. For feed or planting. There the same thing



Thank you :yougoodjob:
I asked for rye berry, I can never find that or millet. I asked for planting wheat, 50# for 13.99. Sadly, you would think so, being in farm, horse and cattle country. There's only a small farm store, which had it, and Co-op which is the newest thing in town doesn't ever have anything :shrug:



whaat there's a co-op in the US?? Thought they were UK only


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jcm4620]
    #26913665 - 09/02/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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u should have plenty of feed stores down your crack or am i mistaken??




I have plenty of feed stores down my crack, I love a good ass eating  :awehorny:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jcm4620]
    #26913691 - 09/02/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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i fucking love the smell of rye berries man and to me they r the most consistant grain ive worked with as far as moisture being right on point every single time. but colonized rye smells sooooo fucking good man especially pan myc when mixed with colonized chopped straw and horse manure mmmmmm i can live i  that smell



Wheat gives the same consistent results the does.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26913698 - 09/02/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Wheat for planting is sometimes coated in antimicrobial powder or fertilizer.
I usually recommend feed wheat but if you can find planting wheat without additives
for a good price, get it.

Rye and wheat are really similar grains. They can even hybridize if I'm not mistaken, but wheat is like a fraction of the cost


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26913715 - 09/02/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hey let's not forget barley!  Easy AF to find in the lower 48 and even here I can get it from my feed store for 16dollars per 50#.:awesomenod:  I can't get wheat or rye here but barley and oats are available and the choice is clear there IMO.  Just another option I'm plugging since I've been having good success with it lately (plus it only takes a 12-15min boil to prep).  Wish I could get millet apparently fuck me on that one.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26913725 - 09/02/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Bird seed is mostly millet. Im really surprised anyone has trouble finding straight white or red millet, your local restaurant supply store or Gordon's food service type of supplier and they should have all the food grade cereal grain you need. Or whole foods but theyre going to have a ridiculous markup because they're not trying to sell it in bulk.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26913728 - 09/02/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Here is something that needs investigation, and someone with access to a LAB. I managed to get C. Burma to decay and grow on plant phenols, absent of common sugars.
The result for me, after a few transfers on T-Gel, was the C. Burma was capable of decaying and converting plant phenols as it's carbon source.

Normally Cubensis, and other fungi, require a glucose source, from sugars, starch, cellulose and a few other materials.

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T-Gel, is just simply black tea and water, steeped as normal, and the bag is removed (99% is removed).

https://frida.fooddata.dk/food/115?lang=en || https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beverages/3967/2

As you can see from the links, tea, ready-to-drink contains no notable sugar, starch or cellulose.

Phenolic content in tea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenolic_content_in_tea

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First I germinated C. Burma on a wood peg with trace sucrose, placed into WL-Tek (paper + soluble fertilizer).

       


The first transfer to T-Gel, grew, but weak-ish, and tried to pin after a few weeks.

       


The second transfer was more vigorous, and produced visible white-rot (bleaching).

       


When left for a long period, and then exposed to oxygen, it lightly bruised.

   


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #26913735 - 09/02/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is that different from starved agar?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
    #26913738 - 09/02/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Does anyone else under-hydrate their coir substrate and then ‘over-hydrate’ the surface by misting after spawning to discourage side / bottom pins?

If so, can this be maintained for subsequent flushes or does it gradually go to shit


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nigel Stephens]
    #26913739 - 09/02/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nigel Stephens said:
Does anyone else under-hydrate their coir substrate and then ‘over-hydrate’ the surface by misting after spawning to discourage side / bottom pins?

If so, can this be maintained for subsequent flushes or does it gradually go to shit



I would highly recommend against that practice. Use a liner.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26913746 - 09/02/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Is that different from starved agar?



Is that in reference to the secondary metabolism of wood lovers? If so then yes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
    #26913749 - 09/02/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

@Munch,
Do tell.
I only read about that practice a week or two a go, and 2 days ago set up one of my monos like that just to see.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nigel Stephens]
    #26913761 - 09/02/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nigel Stephens said:
Does anyone else under-hydrate their coir substrate and then ‘over-hydrate’ the surface by misting after spawning to discourage side / bottom pins?

If so, can this be maintained for subsequent flushes or does it gradually go to shit




Just use Pastys easy mono, Munches easy liner and its really hard to go wrong and there isnt anything thats much easier to do that provides results as good.  This is a decent clone using both those methods





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26913787 - 09/02/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, thanks for the warning shots but I really only asked if it can be maintained for more than 1 flush.

If you feel so strongly about it, by all means tell me why it’s such a bad idea.
I can tell you several reasons why I don’t like liners in return


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nigel Stephens]
    #26913807 - 09/02/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

ive never used the wheat but i wasnt meanin so much the results as i meant being consistant in the amount of moisture absorbed and that i always have totally consistant results with the overall prep times and what not. im sure a lot of grains will all give the same results as far as yield will but i have tried millet,oats and the wbs only a cpl times and i hated the wbs and never even had a full grow with it but at least those grains it seemed would always change their moisture content due to how much variation the sizes of each individual grains were and one way or another theyd come out too dry or too wet. i do gtta say the oats were more consistant but i had a lot of contam issues with them. but my rye berries come out great every single time. thats more so what i was getting at about being consistant. 😃


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jcm4620]
    #26913815 - 09/02/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

People are fuckin touchy this week :uhoh:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26913863 - 09/02/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Really struggling with my agar

These are plates I didn’t inoc and one plate of ape that I might be able to take a transfer from. Pcing my agar for 20 min at 16 psi. Can’t get away from this bacteria and it seems like it’s definitely coming from me



I try not to put my hands or arms over the media I’m working on and also I use a SAB and pour them off of the bottom of the SAB. Should I be wrapping these 2oz cups? I pour the agar and then 2 days later it’s got bacteria


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26913874 - 09/02/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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People are fuckin touchy this week :uhoh:





ya ppls pussies hurt too easily anymore you gtta sit hem down with a blankie and a sippy cup full of hot coco and say ur the best in the world and everything is gnna b alright before offering any kind of real to the point advice 😂😂😂


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CrashTest]
    #26913880 - 09/02/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I have my first mono tubs colonizing and wanted to get some feedback on % colonization and when to flip my lids to fruit them.  It appears my surface may colonize first, and not sure when to switch them over.  These are Unmodified tubs, I feel things are moving in the right direction.

Day 3 after spawning tubs




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dr PinkShroom]
    #26913885 - 09/02/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

fruit at spawn

also u really should b using a top layer to cover them grains like that


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