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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26912004 - 09/01/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It doesn’t have to be fancy, just appropriate for the amount of cakes you have.. here a 2 gallon ziplock with a glad container of perlite and some syringe holes poked all over the bag.. took me all of 10 minutes to set up.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26912009 - 09/01/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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@rickomalley
Check out the link in my signature to Mateah’s Humidity Chamber Tek for BRF cakes. It’s way easier and less work than a SGFC and you can use less cakes. SGFCs only work when they are jam packed with cakes. I did cakes and never used a SGFC.
I would go into this with very low expectations and 4g dried is pretty high for expectations
My cakes in my humidity chamber
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CrashTest]
#26912017 - 09/01/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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fahtster said: It doesn’t have to be fancy, just appropriate for the amount of cakes you have.. here a gallon ziplock with a glad container of perlite and some syringe holes poked all over the bag.. took me all of 10 minutes to set up.

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CrashTest said: @rickomalley
Check out the link in my signature to Mateah’s Humidity Chamber Tek for BRF cakes. It’s way easier and less work than a SGFC and you can use less cakes. SGFCs only work when they are jam packed with cakes. I did cakes and never used a SGFC.
I would go into this with very low expectations and 4g dried is pretty high for expectations
My cakes in my humidity chamber

Super cool, thanks. Now, must I pasteurize coco coir before I place cakes in? And, how do I know what over-hydrated coir is? Not quite field capacity, no?
Also, no misting?
I have a 6qt tub, would this be ideal for this? And lastly, I don't understand quite, you don't keep the lid fully closed? How closed exactly should it be for FAE?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#26912025 - 09/01/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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fahtster said: It doesn’t have to be fancy, just appropriate for the amount of cakes you have.. here a gallon ziplock with a glad container of perlite and some syringe holes poked all over the bag.. took me all of 10 minutes to set up.

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This is very cool, question, what is at the bottom of the your cakes?
Edited by rickomalley238 (09/01/20 01:52 PM)
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If you’re going to do that you should just shred the cakes into the coir in the shoebox. So much easier. Just put the lid on and don’t touch it for two weeks.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26912030 - 09/01/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive always hated the idea of shredding cakes. Why not spawn em whole?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26912041 - 09/01/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: If you’re going to do that you should just shred the cakes into the coir in the shoebox. So much easier. Just put the lid on and don’t touch it for two weeks.
I was going to do this, but I'm very confused with the spawn/substrate ratio.. Is 1/2 pint of spawn enough for a brick of coir? The reason I didn't is because I thought I don't have enough spawn. And, is the fact that the cakes have been dunked and rolled in verm and sat for a day make them less viable as spawn? Appreciate it Aka
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A brink of coir is WAY too much for a 6qt shoebox.
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I’m assuming shredding them creates way more inoculation points which is quicker but I’ve never tried spawning one intact.
Shoeboxes are 6qt so I’m guessing that’s what you’ve got. I’d want at least a pint of spawn though.
The one time I did cakes I shredded one half pint into the bottom of a water jug and it was ok.

Yeah the coir literally inflates like a balloon almost when you dump water on it. A brick could make 5 or 6 shoeboxes if you did thinner sub.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26912060 - 09/01/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck faster colonization when it's just coir just seems gross. I hate the texture of cakes.
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rickomalley238 said:
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fahtster said: It doesn’t have to be fancy, just appropriate for the amount of cakes you have.. here a gallon ziplock with a glad container of perlite and some syringe holes poked all over the bag.. took me all of 10 minutes to set up.

Faht
This is very cool, question, what is at the bottom of the your cakes?
Wet verm... top and bottom. Double ended casing or DEC.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26912167 - 09/01/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushboy said: ..waiting..
that sux man r u just gnna wait til the move then??? or if they say do it asap
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jcm4620]
#26912184 - 09/01/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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In the spirit of the topic of shredding BRF cakes to coir that’s what I’ve been doing instead of using humidity chambers as I fruit the last of my BRF cakes. I am working on my agar game now and attempting to take clones from these fruits.
Here’s a 6qt shoebox that I chopped today. APE MSS to BRF/verm pf tek, shredded to coir/verm. 1 pint of spawn(two half pint cakes shredded) to 3 pints of coir/verm. I used the unbucket tek for my CV.

128g wet first flush
These are definitely giving me better yield than before at around 28g wet per cake first flush. I also have read that because it’s APE it won’t do as well on cakes
I have a couple tiny tubs doing their second flush with 1 brf cake shredded each.

Another 107g combined
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CrashTest]
#26912210 - 09/01/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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^ those are beautiful CrashTest, well done.
Guys, so I have an observation, hear me out. The picture I took I believe was a terrible reference for how big my SGFC compared to my cakes is.
I checked in at the four hour mark, and both my cakes were holding moisture well, and there was slight humidity on the sides of the sgfc as well.
I believe the picture does no justice, because while yes more cakes could go in the SGFC, in person, the chamber isn't as big as it appears. For example, someone mentioned it should hold 15 more cakes, and at MAX, it could fit ~ 6 or 7 more. No more than that.

See guys? It's not that big, not as big as the first picture looked where it's at a downwards angle looking up.
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You could EASILY fit 3 rows of 5 in there.
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You could (and should) fit at least 12 cakes in that tub.
Also: you have this weird approach here where you constantly seek (and take) assurance on the most meaningless of points, but then push back on important advice where you've decided it would be annoying to change up your process.
Can I suggest something: when you get some advice, and you are feeling resistant to it, stop for ten minutes. Breathe deeply for a while, calm your mind down, then get a sheet of paper, and write down your reasons for disagreeing.
And if those reasons are anything other than "I know more about growing mushrooms than the person giving me advice", or "I am confident that I understand the principles behind this advice, and I know that they do not apply in my particular situation", then reassess your position. You don't need to take all advice, but you also don't need to argue everything out. If you're confident and think you know the best path forward, great! Do what you think you know, and don't worry about what people tell you. Let your results speak for themselves.
You eventually allowed yourself to get talked off the uncle ben's ledge, because you realized that you didn't know enough to judge that it was a shitty technique. Now you're trying to defend your FC position from exactly the same level of ignorance as you had with the rice bags.
PS: you're going to want to respond to this post. I encourage you not to. Think about it instead, and decide to act on it or not, for your own reasons. Write those reasons down on a piece of paper. Refer to them later if you waver, see if they've changed.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dfwerydfhg]
#26912311 - 09/01/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, if I say I'm not arguing that sounds like arguing, eh?
I'm a true believer that in life, what you put in, you get out. My passion and thirst for knowledge may come off as argumentative, but make no mistake; Tryp, mushboy, and others should know I highly respect their wisdom and knowledge as I am aware that they certainly trump mine. It's also a benefit to humanity than anyone here (yes this includes you jcm4620) who spreads their wisdom about a beautiful, healing substance like psilocybin is truly doing humanity a fine deed, karma is a thing. The difference is some users do it with class, others with distain. Attitude is key in life. Though I may be annoying, for a fact I sure as hell am appreciative and impressed with others.
Best
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Tyvek envelopes from the post office will work as a filter material? Or should I rock the paint suit tyvek?
I was emptying out my jars and yes the ez felt was allowing a few different kinds of gnats and small flys to lay eggs in jar via ez felt (thick double layerd kind) There was nice lil nests of maggots on the inside of the filter .
So I’m going to need the tyvek to withstand the fly/gnats needle dick
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Yes
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