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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SeventhRoad]
    #26908729 - 08/30/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I believe the dunk is why fruit size is larger second flush. Don't quote me on that tho.

If you want bigger First flush fruits get a good clone


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
    #26908733 - 08/30/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Im still convinced its the ez felt


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26908735 - 08/30/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Your saying the fly gets through the ez felt?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26908793 - 08/30/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

(In reference to maggot problem above) I started having failure issues with jars after using old rings and lids that didn't form a good seal when not torqued all to fuck.  Took me forever to figure out the common thread with the failed jars was the top of the jar where the ring meets the flipped lid.  A little wonk in the edge of that flipped lid or an ill-fitting ring or both and voila: pin mold.  Happened over and over 1 out of 10 jars and finally it hit me.  Zero issues with one piece lids, regardless of filter.  The nice,  new, cherry two piece were fine but those old ones revealed lots of little bends and dents I was overlooking.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26908794 - 08/30/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

a 'nest' right below the hole right? id be surprised if it weerent the filter:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26908805 - 08/30/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Bit of a noob question, but what would you do in this situation? Here's a pic for reference (not mine). As you can see, most of the mushrooms look like the veil is breaking and ready to harvest and dry. However, what do you do with the 3-4 babies which are not yet mature? It seems like a big waste to pick the big ones, dry them, just to wait and pick the other 3-4, right? Or is this what you should do?

Or, should you just pick them all and dry them all? I assume the babies still would have potency?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26908811 - 08/30/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Potency is directly related to weight and genetics.

I harvest and dry the bulk of them at once and eat the scragglers as they mature.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26908814 - 08/30/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Your saying the fly gets through the ez felt?



The fly doesnt have to get through it, it just needs to get its ovipositer (egg syringe thingy) through it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26908826 - 08/30/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Potency is directly related to weight and genetics.

I harvest and dry the bulk of them at once and eat the scragglers as they mature.




Appreciate it. I would do what you do but I have to wait some time before I can eat these, so I'll pick and dry everything at once babies included (knock on wood if mushrooms grow).


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26908839 - 08/30/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I would pick the mature ones and put them in the fridge for the other ones to mature.
Just don't let them rot. Use a paper bag or wrap them in a paper towel in a ziplock


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26908885 - 08/30/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe the dunk is why fruit size is larger second flush. Don't quote me on that tho.

If you want bigger First flush fruits get a good clone




Nah, I never dunk my subs nor do I mist them heavily after first flush, generally the water level in the sub when I prep is enough to carry them through another flush well. Every tub goes the same though, less overall fruits but the fruits that do pop up will be monsters ranging anywhere from 30g-100g.

I'm sure there's a reason for it but googling and searching shroomery always seems fruitless for an answer. A thousand posts asking why, no posts seeming to answer why. Perhaps it's because the pinning surface is less hospitable in some way and the mycellium knowing it can't shit out a canopy of fruits diverts that energy into growing the biggest fruits it can in the areas it can. People do say aborts are a result of the myc killing off fruits it knows it can't support so maybe it's smarter than we think. I'd like to think so anyway.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26908890 - 08/30/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I would pick the mature ones and put them in the fridge for the other ones to mature.
Just don't let them rot. Use a paper bag or wrap them in a paper towel in a ziplock




Can't that lessen the potency of the mature ones through oxidizing? I thought I saw that somewhere, and that it's best to dehydrate asap.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: starbones]
    #26908893 - 08/30/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That's a good theory, it's probably also a seperate set of genetics too.

@rico, it is best to dry asap, but the loss is negligible and isn't a deal breaker for a dose or 2


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26908919 - 08/30/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

agreed. you'll never notice.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26908987 - 08/31/20 12:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Uh oh guys.. I really hope this isn't contam. I noticed this 1-2 small very dark blue/black spot on the bottom of the fully colonized cake. Does this look like anything suspect? edit: it smelled fine btw, like shrooms really.


Also, I was planning on using these jar tops to put the cakes on in the SGFC, but as you can see in the pictures, the sides are raised and a bit tall. Is this an issue and should I use foil instead?



Thanks guys


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26908995 - 08/31/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Those are good lids
They will work fine for this purpose.
The dark spot probably got in before sterilization.
Looks fine


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26908997 - 08/31/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said:
Those are good lids
They will work fine for this purpose.
The dark spot probably got in before sterilization.
Looks fine




You came in clutch man I was freaking out about the black spot.. what could that even be do you know? I thought I opened mold in my house. Thank you so much once again brother


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26908999 - 08/31/20 01:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Could be anything really. Piece of rock, dirt, a bug that got into the bag if verm.

Your house is full of mold anyway


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #26909001 - 08/31/20 01:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said:
Could be anything really. Piece of rock, dirt, a bug that got into the bag if verm.

Your house is full of mold anyway




Gotcha. I do recall this cake smelled a little earthier/shroomier than the other cake, but I still recon it's fine if you think so. Will I know, sooner or later, if it is in-fact black mold? Like, would it spread and be obvious?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26909014 - 08/31/20 02:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Molds tend to spread very quickly.  They love spawn jars as conditions for growth are ideal.  You'll know.


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