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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26880339 - 08/14/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone know what's going on here? Around day 10 post-spawn these "pins" started to appear - at least I thought they were pins. But now it's clear that they are something else - just masses of fruiting body with no head. Y'all seen this before?




That actually looks like the dry bubbles associated with Lecanicillium fungicola. I would keep an eye on that, do not mist it and keep it away from other grows until you’re sure.



Oh shit, I just misted it... What am I keeping an eye on/looking for?

I have another tub currently on its 2nd flush sitting right next to this one. The caps are kind of fuzzy white - I've been thinking that was because of poor conditions (super dry unmodified tub), but perhaps it's contamination? Does this look like Lecanicillium fungicola? Or if not, any idea what might be going on here? Are these fruits safe to eat?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: replyom]
    #26880363 - 08/14/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That cluster is beautiful, those are like perfect cubes. The lions mane looks like when it fruits on the plate.


I’ve never heard of lecanicullium, time to do some reading. That other tub definitely looks like it has some sort of bacteria happening.


With my tubs I knew they were bacterial from the spawn and then I could also see little mustard yellow slime spots on the sides through the liner.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26880393 - 08/14/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Another symptom group is characterized by a puffball-like malformation in which infected mushroom pins develop a stunted or shapeless cap often indistinguishable from the mushroom stem. A dull, grey-white bloom of spores covers the entire structure, thus making the term ‘dry bubble’ very descriptive. Infected mushrooms do not rot and they do not smell unpleasant.



From https://www.americanmushroom.org/integrated-pest-management/dry-bubble/

This seems to describe my second flush tub pretty accurately... But I don't see any pictures of dry bubble online that resemble this. Thoughts? Pasty? Thanks a lot.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26880601 - 08/14/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Here is photo dump of sorts.
Thank you @ one of us

Here is a cluster. Tailfeathers clone of a pin in a clone agar plate.
So clone of a clone but second was a plate pin.
TAILFEATHERS

More.




Here are

WHITE TAILFEATHERS



Here's some kind of

LIONSMANE


PENIS ENVY


PE6


Also
Playing with some autos




I like the look of those tail feathers! What are they a cross of? I’ve never heard of them... also potency?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: replyom]
    #26880623 - 08/14/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Another symptom group is characterized by a puffball-like malformation in which infected mushroom pins develop a stunted or shapeless cap often indistinguishable from the mushroom stem. A dull, grey-white bloom of spores covers the entire structure, thus making the term ‘dry bubble’ very descriptive. Infected mushrooms do not rot and they do not smell unpleasant.



From https://www.americanmushroom.org/integrated-pest-management/dry-bubble/

This seems to describe my second flush tub pretty accurately... But I don't see any pictures of dry bubble online that resemble this. Thoughts? Pasty? Thanks a lot.




It’s not a perfect match but it’s close. Those greyish necrotic caps and the balls in the other tub both are very indicative of that kind of contam. I would be cleaning my grow area like a mofo right now.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #26880665 - 08/14/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Tailfeathers is a cross of
AA+
Corumba Brazil
Golden teacher "clusterfuck"

The tailfeathers in the pics are a clone of a tailfeathers clone. TF3.2


I cloned the white tailfeathers when my first but 3rd generation of tailfeathers threw out the white phenotype.
I cloned a fruit from a white tailfeathers clone tub. That's what I call WTF1.2
Wtf1.2 is what them pics are from. I like running them


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26880675 - 08/14/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

How's the potency of the white tail feathers?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26880836 - 08/14/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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It’s not a perfect match but it’s close. Those greyish necrotic caps and the balls in the other tub both are very indicative of that kind of contam. I would be cleaning my grow area like a mofo right now.



Oh god... what do you clean with for this type of contamination? Just wipe down all surfaces with 70% ethanol? Vinegar? What sorts of things would you do?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: replyom]
    #26880846 - 08/14/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Theoretically, if one attempted the PF Tek, but only did 1 part verm, 1 part BRF, 1 part water, instead of 2 part verm, do the spores have any chance of colonizing? At all? Why or why not?

And if they did, would the mushrooms be any different? Stronger, weaker?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26880853 - 08/14/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The mix would be too muddy and it’d work for shiat.  Wouldn’t colonize fully.  But the spores would probably still germinate.. be more like a brf paste though

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
    #26880864 - 08/14/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The mix would be too muddy and it’d work for shiat.  Wouldn’t colonize fully.  But the spores would probably still germinate.. be more like a brf paste though

Faht




So if one then spawned the colonized parts, would the mushrooms be normal, or weak?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26880868 - 08/14/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Does this look normal to you? This was the finished mixture of what I believe was 2 part verm 1 part BRF 1 part water.

I cannot remember for the life of me if I did 2 part verm, I believe I did (90% sure) but I was just too tired so I don't know if I did the second scoop. I really hope/think I did though.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26880872 - 08/14/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dude would you just chill the fuck up? :lol:

If you only added half the verm you simply fucked up and you aint gonna see shrooms from that. We already told you, without that extra verm the mix would feel too soupy, and you said it didn't.

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Ok, I just wasted some verm and BRF and made a new mix with 1 part verm to see..yeah that was very watery. Much more watery than my batch.. guess I'm ok!! the things I stress myself over .. :/




You made a thread some hours ago and you came up with this idea yourself. :shrug:

Anyway it's really that hard to post a pic so we can tell you for sure? I don't want you to lose your sleep.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickomalley238]
    #26880873 - 08/14/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Does this look normal to you? This was the finished mixture of what I believe was 2 part verm 1 part BRF 1 part water.

I cannot remember for the life of me if I did 2 part verm, I believe I did (90% sure) but I was just too tired so I don't know if I did the second scoop. I really hope/think I did though.






Yes that's ok dude. It's fine. Rest assured.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
    #26880883 - 08/14/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26881181 - 08/15/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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p9hu7 said:
Yes, it's different.



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Brf is different for many reasons. But the main one is that the media in a brf jar is saturated with water and there are fewer/smaller air pockets in the mix compared to cereal grains. The heat is able to penetrate that type of media far more efficiently.



Thanks for the information and sorry for the confusion then.

Are there disadvantages to cereal grains ?

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Here is photo dump of sorts.




The first ones look awesome and make me jealous!

Think next time I will try it without those jars and make it in those boxes


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PsycDiesel]
    #26881192 - 08/15/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The only thing that could be seen as a disadvantage for grains imo is that you have to have a pc, but that’s such a crucial part of cult anyway it doesn’t really count.

Brf is better if you don’t have agar I guess too.


Basically if you’re not serious and just trying to bare minimum everything then brf has advantages.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26881216 - 08/15/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Can I really just leave hydrated coir for weeks at a time before using it? Makes me paranoid


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26881316 - 08/15/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going away for two weeks on Monday. I have three clones on agar. Originally I was just going to chuck the plates in the fridge, but some contam showing up so figured it might be a good idea to transfer to a clean plate. Is there any reason not to transfer and then put the plate straight in the fridge?

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I'm going away for two weeks on Monday. I have three clones on agar. Originally I was just going to chuck the plates in the fridge, but some contam showing up so figured it might be a good idea to transfer to a clean plate. Is there any reason not to transfer and then put the plate straight in the fridge?




I used week old coir and it worked out fine. It was just stored in the tub it was pasteurized in. I checked it the other day (like almost a month old now) and it still looks and smells fine. I'd be tempted to use it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: coversall]
    #26881391 - 08/15/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys, I finally inoculated today, and I'm wondering if this is an issue. When flame sterilizing the needle, I never (at least on purpose) directly touched the plastic, but after innoculating 7 jars, I noticed this on the bottom of the needle (the dark plastic part).

Is this an issue, like can this get plastic in the syringe and kill/mess with the spores?



Lastly, the room now stinks of alcohol vapors (I'm storing the jars in this room), should I air it out or is this a bad idea? Don't want alcohol vapors to seep in/hurt the gas exchange.

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