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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zeppelinthecat]
    #26873001 - 08/10/20 12:05 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Here’s my no prep for WBS.

275g WBS
150g (or ml) water

The standard 1:2 would mean 137.5g water but I had started at 200 and was stepping my way down and 175 was nice and 150 worked so well I stopped there. I think I will try 135g though because some jars seemed a lil too wet after liquid inoculate (though I was using 20+ml per qt)

Here’s when it first gets out the PC

Here’s what the puck should look like at the bottom - stuck n sticky but not too gross -

And here’s a minute later after the shaking is done -

I’m only on my 4th cycle of no prep but even the 200+g h20  first try jars worked and they were all inoculated with LI as well.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26873006 - 08/10/20 12:15 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Are you just mixing it in a bowl? Seems pretty cool


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26873015 - 08/10/20 12:25 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

You axin me that?

If so, no each qt jar gets its own 275g grain and 150 water. The only downside to the no prep is I can’t fit the extra 3 jars on their side on top in a presto23 or else the water touches the filter.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26873025 - 08/10/20 12:34 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Nice. Ya thanks for sharing. I didn't have much luck with oats and was thinking about getting into WBS anyways. I definitely wanna try it your way


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26873158 - 08/10/20 01:54 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Here are my bags.  Some grain spots still but it's been a couple months.




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #26873336 - 08/10/20 03:17 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

dident colonize cuz it’s bacterial .
But
Is that a black agar puck?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BatmanBDC] * 1
    #26873365 - 08/10/20 03:34 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

How is no prep wbs any less of a hassle than soaking?

Soak overnight-24hrs. Drain. Jar up. PC. Done.


No shaking over multiple days. You guys must have massive forearms. Come over to my house and shake 6 boxes of jars multiple times for 3days.

Not tryna to be a dick I just dont see the point or how it saves time:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26873378 - 08/10/20 03:41 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Right. I guess if you don't like planning ahead for the soak, boiling, or drying of grains then "no prep" is the better option, but having to shake every jar 3 times or whatever post-pc seems like a bigger inconvenience to me. What if you have like three dozen jars? Fuck all that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tight Lunchbox]
    #26873398 - 08/10/20 03:47 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

That's why I like the soak. No drying just draining. No boiling just soaking. It's like making a bowel of cereal. ...and eating it the next morning:rolleyes::lol:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26873491 - 08/10/20 04:38 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Good point


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26873496 - 08/10/20 04:41 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Shoulda asked this before I tried to use it but
This wbs is ok to use?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26873505 - 08/10/20 04:44 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

How long do you normally drain wbs after a 24h soak?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26873507 - 08/10/20 04:46 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I was careful about not contaminating it.  Should I just try to go to the next phase where I try to grow the shrooms?  That's a black plug that came with the spawn bag.  No mold, just grain and a little wet grain.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
    #26873511 - 08/10/20 04:48 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Quote:

Culliganman360 said:
Shoulda asked this before I tried to use it but
This wbs is ok to use?





Looks awesome from the pic on the bag.

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Gan said:
How long do you normally drain wbs after a 24h soak?




20min? Enough to drain excess water. Check out my link..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #26873521 - 08/10/20 04:56 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Maybe your culture wasent as clean as u thought bro but regardless Something not right or it would have colonized every grain

and your bag looks kinda wet that’s a common bacteria sign .
I would toss it and try agian u might get a few fruits but imo not worth the trouble

& mush now that I look at that pic, looks like they plugged on the millet lol . Too bad I got a lot of dust and clear corn flakes in mine 👎🏼


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26873539 - 08/10/20 05:07 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Hell yeah. If I can have the presence of mind to think ahead I'm definitely gonna try out the soak route


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26873632 - 08/10/20 06:11 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Any way to try and salvage any of it?  Cut out the grain spot perhaps?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
    #26873725 - 08/10/20 07:15 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Has anyone ever seen the home mycologists on YouTube. He has his own channel.  He thinks everyone over reacts with regards to contam or pasteurization.  He pours his agar in his kitchen on the stove with 0 contam issues.  Turns his stove onto 250. Cracks the door open and let’s the hot air rise while he pours his agar into 2oz soufflé cups.  He boils his hpoo.  It just seems he does everything against the curve and still has much success.  Just curious if anyone is familiar with him.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Jbets75]
    #26873737 - 08/10/20 07:23 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

People like that hide their failures. Youtube is a den of outdated, misinformation.
I've seen people get away with boiling agar in a microwave and pouring it in the draft of a bunsen burner but tbh thats just ghetto, and they never show you what the plate looks like after 2 weeks. I threw out some plates yesterday that were 2 months old, I fucked up the spread or the spores were dead but either way no contam.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #26873752 - 08/10/20 07:36 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I don’t think anyone knowledgeable says that sterilization etc. is the only way your work can ever be contamination free. The point is that not everyone can get away with the same things, and some people can’t get away with anything. Sterile techniques and practices are so easily implemented that it’s silly not to use them, and it’s outright moronic to suggest to a large group of people that it’ll work for them too.


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