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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bound2grow]
    #26851149 - 07/29/20 05:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

We are here to talk about mushrooms not berate each other and take every discussion nuclear. We can be better. I've literally interacted with him twice and both times he was really quite worked up at me like 0 to 100 stuff.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #26851155 - 07/29/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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We are here to talk about mushrooms not berate each other and take every discussion nuclear. We can be better. The guy was so worked up over nothing.




I thought yer jest at the artwork was hilarious
and in the vein of guys sitting around bsing and drinkin a beer.

It's true a lot of funnin is lost in translation.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bound2grow]
    #26851159 - 07/29/20 05:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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It is very unfair to Sirachi that you banned him and no one else. He asked me not to say anything but I think everyone ought to know that you banned him for 30 days and it would appear the person who attacked him first did not receive a ban and is still posting. He was right about pasteurization and while he was childish to go through that other person's post he told me he does not post his advice anymore because this is exactly what would happen to him. I suppose you will ban me now too. Well I have Sirachi's number so be my guest. He has helped me already and he answered several questions with answers no one else had suggested, and the people asking the questions were all appreciative. He said that it was your personal bias and it was not worth complaining about but last time I stopped posting, everyone wanted to know where I went. Well Sirachi told me that I should come back but what I thought about this site was right the first time. Now no one needs to message me and ask where I am.

Sorry Sirachi, I miss you already.



He has been trolling so much so that the admins looked into it. He's on the fast train to permanent removal he's got the attention of people that run the site.

I don't even know who he is besides some OTD troll.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26851168 - 07/29/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Could you guys post one of your teks on how to pasteurize dry coir blocks ???
I’m going to Start running my spawn longer in the P.C Was running for 1:45 with millet..
I’m losing 15-20% of my tubs right from trich..these are good though. ..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Irishmule169]
    #26851180 - 07/29/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I do it by pouring 1 gallon of 175 degree water into a gallon jug. Put the coir block in a big bag and put the bag in a bucket. Pour the water in the bag. Wait a few hours and then add 2-3 quarts of fine verm till it is field capacity.

Don't laugh at my shit floor I'm a welder not a contractor lmao...Stupid fucking VCT tiles creeped around on me and now look like this.



If your wondering about the bag and why, bag is life. Bag is home. Bag is my tek. Bag is where I fruit. Sandbag.

15-20% sounds like bad spawn though. Bad pasteurization would be much higher failure.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
    #26851202 - 07/29/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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First time really with WBS. Prepped WBS once before and underestimated the amount of water it takes up during and after the PC cycle. How does this look in terms of hydration? This is before throwing it in jars and putting it through the PC.


I used a variation of Frank's method. I drained it shortly after I noticed a small amount of burst grains





Gan, if you don't have luck with WBS (it was ok for me but not great) try RGS.. it's stupidly easy to do and pretty much impossible to mess up. Plus super fast.. start to finish in 10 minutes then pc..
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
    #26851398 - 07/29/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I need some help with 2 shoeboxes that I currently have. So i'm doing unmodified shoeboxes and the mushrooms were getting too tall so I placed the shoeboxes without the lid inside a unmodified monotub. After a day, these 2 shoeboxes started pooling with metabolites. It's a absurd amount of metabolites, something I've never experienced before. I've already dabbed it 3 times with tissue but after a few hours, it reappears. The color is lighter than the dark yellow metabolites I'm used to seeing. It smells like human piss in the morning when you havent drank water for awhile. I'm not sure what's going on. It's only these 2 shoeboxes that I placed in the monotub that have this problem. The other 5 that wasnt placed in a bigger monotub are perfectly fine. I already took them out the monotub and increased FAE. Not sure what to do with these. Below is a picture of the pooling



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ouuwee]
    #26851401 - 07/29/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It’s bacterial goo I just had it for the first time last month.  It’s not a big deal just wipe it off if it’s on the stipes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26851406 - 07/29/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)



Early trich?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #26851409 - 07/29/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hard to tell it looks fuzzy for trich, but it’s got that green tinge starting in the middle. I’d guess yeah mold.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26851412 - 07/29/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I see the green. Fuck. I'll isolate it and see what it looks like later today before I bury it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #26851436 - 07/29/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I didn't realize everyone was so conservative on the temperature around here. It was always said to be "140-170" in my circles of information but I don't think you need to be so super careful or there are much super hard and fast rules.

Not trying to be wildly controversial or anything my bad.




140-170 used to be the standard however, people’s specific elevations often throw a wrench into the low end of the temps and 170 is a bit like riding a razors edge. I personally like to keep it between 150-160 for about 60-70 min. 90 min pasteurization is unnecessary and may even contribute to partial sterilization (especially for people living at sea level.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26851441 - 07/29/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Mmmmm :takingnotes: I'll take that to da bank!

Oh and got another big one coming, prolly no electricity for a day or so.
Potential Tropical Cyclone 9.
So it goes...you gonna finish that beer?  :rofl:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
    #26851487 - 07/29/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What pasty said exactly.  I dont like to get above 165F. That being said coir shouldnt need pasteurization


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26851583 - 07/29/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Pasteurizing coir to prevent contams is like jerking off with a condom to prevent STD’s.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26851589 - 07/29/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I didn't realize everyone was so conservative on the temperature around here. It was always said to be "140-170" in my circles of information but I don't think you need to be so super careful or there are much super hard and fast rules.

Not trying to be wildly controversial or anything my bad.




140-170 used to be the standard however, people’s specific elevations often throw a wrench into the low end of the temps and 170 is a bit like riding a razors edge. I personally like to keep it between 150-160 for about 60-70 min. 90 min pasteurization is unnecessary and may even contribute to partial sterilization (especially for people living at sea level.




Why would elevation matter in pasteurization?
You are measuring temperature directly and that's what microbes die from.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26851598 - 07/29/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hahaha oh man I did that once just to see what was up. Well first I wanted to see how I compared to average sized condom wearers. I was 11 and was all pumped that the thing fit snugly 😂

Don’t ban me for giving cult gen dis a bad tint.


I did pasteurize some coir once too but that was to test the MudaBucket method before using actual duce.

Do you guys that pasteurize hotter let your sub sit for a few days before using?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26851624 - 07/29/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I would also like to point out about my pasteurization temps that 170 was the air temp I would set the barrel to maintain via boiling water.

140 would be the CORE temp that I "start" my cycle time at and I would shut it off at a CORE temp of 150-160.

So I wasn't attempting to reach 170 or higher, but after measuring some bags in some locations of the barrel after the cycle was done, some would have temps over 170 in some places.

There is probably a lot of temp fluctuation of temps at various zones of the substrate in most pasteurization teks.

Was I the only one that jerked off into a condom at least once when I was a wee lass discovering all that stuff?  :wetself:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jackrabbitcytoplas]
    #26851640 - 07/29/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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sandman420 said:
I didn't realize everyone was so conservative on the temperature around here. It was always said to be "140-170" in my circles of information but I don't think you need to be so super careful or there are much super hard and fast rules.

Not trying to be wildly controversial or anything my bad.




140-170 used to be the standard however, people’s specific elevations often throw a wrench into the low end of the temps and 170 is a bit like riding a razors edge. I personally like to keep it between 150-160 for about 60-70 min. 90 min pasteurization is unnecessary and may even contribute to partial sterilization (especially for people living at sea level.




Why would elevation matter in pasteurization?
You are measuring temperature directly and that's what microbes die from.




Water has a lower boiling point at higher elevations.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26851730 - 07/29/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Pasteurizing coir to prevent contams is like jerking off with a condom to prevent STD’s.






I guess I can stop buying condoms now.
Can't afford them anymore anyways.



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