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ManifoldPrime
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I've just seen my first trich/asperg. in a spawn jar for this year - normally if I get contams in jars its bacteria. It does say something its taken this long for the green meanie to show up.
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Inthepit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi] 1
#26849473 - 07/28/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow Srirachi  I was trying to recall someone saying that... So 131-140F wow pretty tight.
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26849492 - 07/28/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Forrester said: We can theorize all day but I'll wait to hear from someone who uses one on a regular basis.
This is precisely what the other guy was saying, this is not good information. He is outright saying that until he hears otherwise from someone who actually uses one of those contraptions that he's reserving judgement. The implication being that it "could" work.
Reserving judgement instead of blindly parroting doesn't mean he isnt a solid info source, nor does it mean that he endorses the contraption.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26849497 - 07/28/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some poorly made eyesore graphic doesn't prove anything. I definitely pasteurize over 140f and do not get trich much.
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849499 - 07/28/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you using coir?
Try to pasteurize poo over 150 and see what happens!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#26849500 - 07/28/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea I definitely have pasteurized poo over 150. Poo straw lots of stuff. Live steam in a barrel before.
Edited by sandman420 (07/28/20 08:54 AM)
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natedawgnow
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849502 - 07/28/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You must have access to god poo
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849504 - 07/28/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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sandman420 said: Yea I definitely have pasteurized poo over 150. Poo straw lots of stuff. Live steam in a barrel before.
Ok well are you spawning to said poo in open air? If you sterilize poo and spawn to it while sterile then youre good
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849507 - 07/28/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I think I'll try Easy Oven Pasteurization 123
Perhaps my oven can hold a nice 140F.
"Some poorly made eyesore graphic"
Edited by Inthepit (07/28/20 09:04 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26849514 - 07/28/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wasn't attacking the guy, I was commenting on one comment. He may very well be a good source of information, the mods made him a TC afterall.
It's not parroting to recognize when something works or not. If the boards are truly in a state of affairs where criticism of SAB hooked to a fan is simply unsubstantiated "blind" parroting then shit has seriously gone down hill. Back in the day it would have been dismissed with a figurative wave of the hand without barely an explanation as to why it wouldn't work aside from a derisive meme or two.
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sandman420 said: Some poorly made eyesore graphic doesn't prove anything.
Wtf? I went in to great detail about why it wouldn't work. Am I in the twilight zone? Maybe I'm still sleeping.
Edited by Stipe-n Cap (07/28/20 09:07 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26849516 - 07/28/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK the live stream in my barrel was temp controlled by a PID in my case at 170f.
So the waterheater would boil water inside to keep the barrel at 170 and turn off and on to maintain. Outside surfaces would get to 175+ in spots. It was just open air spawn.
I don't do it that way anymore cause I hate searching for poo.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849547 - 07/28/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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sandman420 said: Some poorly made eyesore graphic doesn't prove anything. I definitely pasteurize over 140f and do not get trich much.
Boil your shit for all I care. It'll be as helpful as your opinion.
You talk about this and that being an unacceptable failure rate but pasteurize above pasteurization temps and don't get "much" trich.
How much is too much for you?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26849576 - 07/28/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: I wasn't attacking the guy, I was commenting on one comment. He may very well be a good source of information, the mods made him a TC afterall.
It's not parroting to recognize when something works or not. If the boards are truly in a state of affairs where criticism of SAB hooked to a fan is simply unsubstantiated "blind" parroting then shit has seriously gone down hill. Back in the day it would have been dismissed with a figurative wave of the hand without barely an explanation as to why it wouldn't work aside from a derisive meme or two.
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sandman420 said: Some poorly made eyesore graphic doesn't prove anything.
Wtf? I went in to great detail about why it wouldn't work. Am I in the twilight zone? Maybe I'm still sleeping.
Pretty sure sandman's comment was to srirachi about his pasteurization temp graphic.
As for the sab contraption, I'm mostly playing DA because I know for sure that contraption dont do shit.
I still dont think forrester was specifically spreading any bad info as you claim. This is a hobby and if op of that thread wants to try something stupid and report on its stupidity, I say have at it. At least it will educate other noobs on its stupidity
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26849586 - 07/28/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea I was talking to sirachi, p9hu7
How much is too much? I guess about 5% is too much. 1 in 20 or less. And definitely not because of pasteurization temps it was just half-bad spawn mostly. When spawn was fine no contams. Not rocket science.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849598 - 07/28/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you're pasteurizing at higher than pasteurization temps and spawning with bad spawn. What was your question again?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26849607 - 07/28/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh look hes acting up.
No I was just pasteurizing at pasteurization temps.
130-140 is not the limit and your lame graphic or terrible attitude don't prove anything.
Edited by sandman420 (07/28/20 10:01 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849614 - 07/28/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm just trying to figure out why you would say the graphic is wrong, but right. Maybe it's because you're as full of shit as they come?
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sandman420 said: I had a welder tig weld...
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sandman420 said: Nah yea I'm a welder. I made this for someone.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26849620 - 07/28/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh lawd lmao
Pathetic to dig through however many posts you can to string together some conspiracy. Sadd.
Use your brain maybe you can figure out there are different types of welders that specialize in different stuff.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849631 - 07/28/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been sterilizing my shit with a near zero contam rate. I dont think it matters.
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Srirachi
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26849636 - 07/28/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Only, that's not you. A welder can weld both the things you mentioned if they can weld one of them.
So all that aside, tell me why it is okay for you to say pasteurization temps are dependent on the quality of the graphic?
You are spreading bad info saying pasteurization temps don't matter. You should go to OTD if you want to talk out your ass, imo.
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