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Srirachi
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26849118 - 07/28/20 01:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's like a still air box, but with rapidly moving air. So a RMAB. Sounds military to me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26849145 - 07/28/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: It's the first time I've ever witnessed a TC say that a SAB linked to fan and filter via poly tubing might work...instead of you know, laughing it into oblivion.
Lol where/when was that? Fan hooked up to a sab is hilarious
Yea Im curious too when/where?
Idk what good that would do.. you would just cause all kinds of unpredictablle winds in your workspace, in all directions
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tweeq]
#26849148 - 07/28/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26849151 - 07/28/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Young bucks, lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Anastomosis]
#26849161 - 07/28/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eat brings all the old school stuff over to the 'Rey.
I've been calling it that lately because shroomydan said the shroomery wasn't shroomy. Now it's just the 'rey.
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26849193 - 07/28/20 02:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats different though isnt it? Thats operating on a different principle than an SAB isnt it? Shmuvbox relies on positive pressure doesnt it?
Eat is a badass, anyone know what he uses these days?
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Edited by c10h12n2o (07/28/20 02:50 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26849209 - 07/28/20 03:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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In eats recent writeups it looks like a sab. I tried that shmuvbox thing to do of cakes and it worked, but so did my kitchen with all the vents and fans shut off. Hell I had 90% success pouring agar with the ac and fans off in my kitchen and bathroom. Transfers and innoculating grain jars had heavy losses though in open air. It's not acceptable loss numbers to me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26849298 - 07/28/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Srirachi said: shroomydan
Who?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26849319 - 07/28/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Does anyone do a coffee soak with their grain? I've been saving all my spent coffee grounds in the freezer looking to try it out
Any comparisons on coffee soak vs plain water soak for grains?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26849326 - 07/28/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Srirachi said: shroomydan
Who?
That's 12yrs ago people dont change
It's been end times since the dawn of time for some people.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi] 1
#26849331 - 07/28/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Srirachi said: It's like a still air box, but with rapidly moving air. So a RMAB. Sounds military to me.
I was thinking Drafty, Unreliable Mycology Box.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26849344 - 07/28/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said:
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p9hu7 said: It's the first time I've ever witnessed a TC say that a SAB linked to fan and filter via poly tubing might work...instead of you know, laughing it into oblivion.
Lol where/when was that? Fan hooked up to a sab is hilarious
Here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26847144
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Garvaeldt]
#26849392 - 07/28/20 07:44 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: Thats different though isnt it? Thats operating on a different principle than an SAB isnt it? Shmuvbox relies on positive pressure doesnt it?
Eat is a badass, anyone know what he uses these days?
Yeah, absolutely... but I just bumped that thread a few days ago, because I saw several people saying they could not find, or afford, a laminar flow suitable HEPA... so I thought I'd mention it again. What's surprising is how it works in spite of about a million reasons why it shouldn't...
Agree on the Eat's a badass though. He's definitely helped me up my game. The whole Tribe has actiually. But not AMU. Those cats stole my bike 
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Garvaeldt said: Does anyone do a coffee soak with their grain?
I have a link in my sig explaining why I think coffee sucks but if sigs are turned off you can find it in my journal if you want. In a nutshell, coffee will grow trichoderma a lot better than it will grow cubes.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26849430 - 07/28/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know some folks, even eatualive and pasty, have reported on problematic grains that have too high of an endospore count or thermophilic bacteria that survive the PC and plague a run. They found switching grains was helpful. Has anyone heard reports of that happening with particular malt extract or agar or presterilized plates? Still trying to figure out why no matter what I do my runs get destroyed by green for 2 years running.. I'm taking srirachi's advice and lowering my cook temp and time but wondering if it isn't that what the hell else could be going on.
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Man I totally feel you on this one. No joke - I got rid of everything and took a break. Not saying you should do that, but I was running umpteen dozen tubs out of a hunting cabin long ago, with better results than I could get in a nice lab setup years later with tons more experience under my belt. I still don't know what happened. I'm doing fine again, but only after being so fed up I would rather have smuggled live peyote into prison than light my burners.
A lot of people say Stamets is outdated, but Stamets is rock fuckin solid, and when someone accomplishes half of what he has, they'll be halfway to the point that I'd take their advice over his. That's my advice. Pick up GGMM and read it cover to cover three times.
Stamets has documented what works every time. We here have documented what works until it doesn't.
Check my ebook link in my sig/journal if you don't have a paper copy of GGMM
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26849447 - 07/28/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lately, I’ve been getting trich right after I harvest my first flush. I never had this before, but I have been also trying a lot of different things. I soak grain for two days and cook at 207f for 15 hours in a drum. I use LC to inoculate bags of oats. I also pasteurize the coco I use, in bags, in a drum at 170f for 9 hours. I have always had 3 pr more flushes, but now trich pops up after the first.
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No shit Sherlock 
I can't imagine how depressing that is.
Yer definitely accumulating a vast amount of tips. Maybe in yer free time! You could throw a thread or even a TEK compiling yer most Excellent Adventure!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26849454 - 07/28/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said:
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c10h12n2o said:
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p9hu7 said: It's the first time I've ever witnessed a TC say that a SAB linked to fan and filter via poly tubing might work...instead of you know, laughing it into oblivion.
Lol where/when was that? Fan hooked up to a sab is hilarious
Here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26847144
I didnt see any tc claim that it could work.
Forrester was the only tc that posted and he said nothing of the "it can possibly work" variety
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170 is too hot for pasteurization and that's where your trich will come from -

Tell us more about this drum cooking thing, because 2 days sounds more like a ferment than a soak and how the hell do you bag grain out of a drum? You have a shipping container with HEPA air?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26849464 - 07/28/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said:
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p9hu7 said: It's the first time I've ever witnessed a TC say that a SAB linked to fan and filter via poly tubing might work...instead of you know, laughing it into oblivion.
Lol where/when was that? Fan hooked up to a sab is hilarious
Here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26847144
I didnt see any tc claim that it could work.
Forrester was the only tc that posted and he said nothing of the "it can possibly work" variety
This is what he said after my very thorough explanation outlining why the design was flawed, and after saying that a TC should chime in.
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Forrester said: We can theorize all day but I'll wait to hear from someone who uses one on a regular basis.
This is precisely what the other guy was saying, this is not good information. He is outright saying that until he hears otherwise from someone who actually uses one of those contraptions that he's reserving judgement. The implication being that it "could" work.
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