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Gan
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26841428 - 07/23/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont know a ton about electric work. Just enough to work on my car and my toys, but could it be something to do with easier/safer storage and transport? Idk
And yeah that looks like the diagram. Your two browns are already hooked to your capacitor it looks like. You green is grounded, white is your neutral, red and black are hots (red low, black high). But as for what to do about the switch, I have no clue. Worst case, an electrician could do it pretty dang quick I'd imagine.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26841438 - 07/23/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Idk but they had 5 and all were like this I inspected em all to choose best. I dident think them cut wires would be that big a deal. You don’t think I can shave off some plastic to get to the wire and connect it myself?
It seems pretty simple. Just don’t wana ruin it if that’s on the line then I’ll just get an electrician
Edited by Culliganman360 (07/23/20 08:02 PM)
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The switch may have broke and they just hardwired it to the speed they wanted. But it would seem that you shold be able to connect the white and black wire to an extension cord matching color wires. Would be good to ground the green wire of the extension cord to any available metal bolt on the frame some where...
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I'm honestly not sure. I just dont wanna give you advice I'm not 100% sure on. Especially when there's lots of peeps on here with tons more knowledge on this stuff than I. And I dont think the cut wires are a big deal. I'd imagine, if needed, you could just hardwire it straight to an extension cord like you can multi speed blowers for flow hoods. Like sandman is saying. Wouldn't be hard at all. But I know am electrician would be happy to do it if that's what I came to and probably wouldn't charge much at all for it. If any. Or maybe an HVAC guy.
Is there a ground screw anywhere on the chassis of the motor? It'll have a ground symbol next to it more than likely
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Culliganman360 said: Would this be the wiring diagram?
& sandman you don’t think I can order a new switch? Or simply shave off some plastic so I can get to the wires
Yes, that's the wiring diagram; it says the neutral wire which is the white wire goes directly to the motor windings, and the hot or black wire goes either to the black wire on the motor for high speed, or to the red wire of the motor for low speed.
This is pretty safe stuff to do yourself, but you should at a minimum use wire nuts to secure the cut off extension cord to the motor, and then use a good amount of electrical tape to cover everything. That's a little janky according to wiring codes, which would say you need to put it all in a junction box, but you can accomplish a similar thing by tacking the cord to the frame of your hood with wire staples.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26841487 - 07/23/20 08:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I put all mine in a junction box while doing my flow hood. I like the junction box for organization and for using entrance/clamp connectors in case I trip over my cord.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26841493 - 07/23/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's definitely the way to do it if you can.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26841523 - 07/23/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I’m trying to understand this So the extension cord I should Cut off one end, connect white to white and black to black, ground green somewhere on metal possibly ground screw like Gan said ? What should I do with the red wire just tape it up and leave it? And wiring it that way would have the fan on high speed correct? And do these wires need to be soldered ? Thanks for helping me out
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U should be fine. It says 115v. Mine is 270 and i had to connect it to a stepup transformer to avoid burning out the fan
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Glad to help. Yes, you have it exactly correct. Soldering is not necessary if you use wire nuts, but if you have a soldering iron and no wire nuts, I'd solder it.
EDIT: Yes, tape up and ignore the red wire
The motor will be on High if you go straight to black. Any metal part of the motor chassis will work for ground - that is usually accomplished using a spade connector under one of the bolts on the back motor plate. Wrapping the bare ground wire around the bolt and tightening it down works too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi] 1
#26841533 - 07/23/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot brothas Much appreciated
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Christ... can’t even avoid moronic political statements in a mushroom cultivation forum anymore.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist]
#26841538 - 07/23/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should read some Ken Kesey
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26841554 - 07/23/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Culliganman360 said: I’m trying to understand this So the extension cord I should Cut off one end, connect white to white and black to black, ground green somewhere on metal possibly ground screw like Gan said ? What should I do with the red wire just tape it up and leave it? And wiring it that way would have the fan on high speed correct? And do these wires need to be soldered ? Thanks for helping me out

Here's a diagram I made when I was wiring my Dayton blower. It's similar to what you're doing. Except you won't have an orange or blue wire coming off the blower/motor. Looks like your wires you're working with are solid instead of stranded. Thank fuck lol
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Are you sure those aren’t removable? If you pull and shimmy up/down, they don’t feel like they might slide off?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist]
#26841573 - 07/23/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Carling rocker switches have metal posts on the rear, usually. You put your wires into some type of quick disconnect spade connector, crimp it, then that slides on/off the post.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist]
#26841716 - 07/23/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Phro I’m gonna try it out . If that works , then I connect the red and black to hi and lo crimp it or whatever then connect the white wire to a power cord?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#26841837 - 07/24/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hell yeah munch as a very visual learner thank you for putting in that work
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#26842065 - 07/24/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pho is correct, those red plastic pieces on the switch are spade connectors. Give those a pull and they should slide off. You could get hi/lo functionality back if that switch is still working. I’d be interested in seeing how they wired it up inside that junction box on the side.
To get back hi/lo, you would run the red wire from the motor to one side of switch, Black from motor to other side of switch, Black from your power cable(extension cord) to the center tap on the switch. White from extension cord directly to the white from motor. Green(ground) from extension cord and from motor should be connected together and onto the metal of the unit to ground the whole thing.
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Roscoe’s instructions are spot on. 
Those units were most likely scavenged from a lab that shut down. Whoever did the removal didn’t know much about the units or electrical, or they would have just disconnected the spades rather than cutting the wires. I’d be willing to bet that everything will function just as it’s meant to once you’ve got the wiring back in place.
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