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The Dalcassian
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26831855 - 07/19/20 03:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can someone tell me how to work out B.E. please? I tried the search engine but I got articles on pasturisation and diffusion
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Edmunter
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Ive always read that if a culture gets to the edge of a petrie dish dont use it.
Im not sure why as if the dish is sterile and sealed with a wrap why not?
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A.k.a
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26831879 - 07/19/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think be is the dry weight of everything in your sub divided by dry yield. Something like that.
The edge of the plate thing is precautionary from what i can tell. Contams are most likely to end up on the edges so people don’t use it just in case.
I’ve used super overgrown plates a ton of times but only when I was sure they were clean. Normally I just cut a circle around the edge and use the inside pieces.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26831888 - 07/19/20 03:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: The edge of the plate thing is precautionary from what i can tell. Contams are most likely to end up on the edges so people don’t use it just in case.
Yup. 9 times out ten I get trich or mold, its on the edge of the plates. Bacteria grows everywhere and is usually a user error, as in my fault heh heh..
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The Dalcassian
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26831931 - 07/19/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I think be is the dry weight of everything in your sub divided by dry yield. Something like that.
Ah ok so I'd need to know the dry weight of my grains before PC and inoculation. I'll have to wait till next time to try work it out then.
Thanks
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A.k.a
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Idk what the formula is for sure. Gotta weigh the coir too.
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Inthepit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26832042 - 07/19/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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One of these is not like the others...(Romper Room)

The two on the right were shaken yesterday and (drum roll) the one the left was never inoculated, it's been waiting since 10 July for G2G.  Oats, no foil PC, dried outside on a screen. That's 1/7 that auto contamed. (new term)
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Spreadtheknowledge said: And what variety do u think I should go strain hunting with to get the fastest strain possible?
Any "variety" of cubes can give you the "strain" you are looking for. You could stumble on a good one after 1 xfer from a germination plate, or you could make hundreds of plates and xfers before you find the right one for you.
Find good healthy non competitive myc patterns in agar and fruit each one out. You'll find some keepers for sure. You might even end up with hundreds banked in your fridge and still be too busy with new ones to ever go back to any of the old ones.
Out of 1 good print potentially thousands of good "strains" can arise.
For the laymen these are good varieties of cubes to start with:
GT TOC AA+
Good luck.
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Inthepit
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Spreadtheknowledge said: And what variety do u think I should go strain hunting with to get the fastest strain possible?
IMHO yer waisting time as a noob with this line. You could do all that work and end up with a strain that doesn't even fruit. I'm taking this route of isolating a clean culture and then cloning for the win! check RogerRabbit out RR picks a clone
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Irishmule169
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26832158 - 07/19/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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mushboy said: Because mushrooms are water. More mushrooms grow more water is used. That's why we spawn to bulk.
High quality h2o.
Where is the contamination thread? Why do you sometimes get early contamination on subs before colonisation?
Uncolonized food sources or improper sub pasteurization.
With coir, rolling around dirty spawn with the coir is enough to make coir explode in mold(uncolonized food sources from the poorly colonized grain)
Right?
Contam forum was merged with regular mushcult because it was a ghost town.
Yeah its a dark green mold that doesnt white up b4. Its only on certain subs but across the board. I think it might be some dodgy coir as im getting some doing ok and some not...... Probably losing 10% atm.
As soon as my big coir block arrives . I break it up and put it in a clean tub and keep it sealed up until I’m ready to use it.. Or leave it in the vacuum sealed package in a clean tub.. I also purchased a 5’x5’ grow tent that can be kept clean to help cut down on exposure to shit floating around in the air in my house..
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Re: Cultivation General Discuss [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26832164 - 07/19/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nichrome said:
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Spreadtheknowledge said: And what variety do u think I should go strain hunting with to get the fastest strain possible?
Any "variety" of cubes can give you the "strain" you are looking for. You could stumble on a good one after 1 xfer from a germination plate, or you could make hundreds of plates and xfers before you find the right one for you.
Find good healthy non competitive myc patterns in agar and fruit each one out. You'll find some keepers for sure. You might even end up with hundreds banked in your fridge and still be too busy with new ones to ever go back to any of the old ones.
Out of 1 good print potentially thousands of good "strains" can arise.
For the laymen these are good varieties of cubes to start with:
GT TOC AA+
Good luck.
Im still running the GT print you sent me nichrome. I got a isolate out of it that does decent all the tubs in my sig are those.
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A.k.a said: You mean the really long ones with short sides and blue wheels??
Somebody just posted with those I think. 10qts spawn in it.
They have so many huge tubs I’m tempted to buy every time I’m there now.
And yeah I got excited and bought a 58 q one it's really wide. Ill probably add the same ammount as I do to my regular 58 quart tubs to see if more surface area creates a bigger yeild.
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The Dalcassian said:
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A.k.a said: I think be is the dry weight of everything in your sub divided by dry yield. Something like that.
Ah ok so I'd need to know the dry weight of my grains before PC and inoculation. I'll have to wait till next time to try work it out then.
Thanks
No BE is WET weight of harvested fruits, divided by dry weight of starting materials multiplied by 100.
If I start with 50g dry material and yield 100g wet mushrooms, my BE is 200%
100g wet / 50g dry x 100 = 200% BE
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26832236 - 07/19/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: You mean the really long ones with short sides and blue wheels??
Somebody just posted with those I think. 10qts spawn in it.
They have so many huge tubs I’m tempted to buy every time I’m there now.
I fucking hate tubs with wheels. Shits keep rolling around when I’m trying to spawn em, harvest, etc. Pain in the ass.
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Spreadtheknowledge said: Let's imagine my floor space is maxed and so is my roof space I'm trying to think of how to get the most out of a small space like imagine if u could only do 3 or 4 tubs in a closet u would want to get the most possible
People here have pretty much hit the maximum yield p.s.f. 10 years ago, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there is no practical way to "maximize" the space, because nobody here is using less efficient techniques than they can find. That being the case, I think the real question is:
"How do I minimize my wasted space?"
I think the answer is, throw out your tubs and use a greenhouse and trays.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Srirachi]
#26832341 - 07/19/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Man I know I said it the other day but I’m changing up and gonna buy these  They should be matched up perfectly right?
I hate to be a broken record on here but this shit is confusing . I don’t want to invest and get the wrong shit
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If ur gonna invest get at least 24x18.
12 is going to piss you off. That's all I know
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26832354 - 07/19/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inthepit said: One of these is not like the others...(Romper Room)

The two on the right were shaken yesterday and (drum roll) the one the left was never inoculated, it's been waiting since 10 July for G2G.  Oats, no foil PC, dried outside on a screen. That's 1/7 that auto contamed. (new term)
You’ve been blessed with an immaculate inoculation. You got the real flesh of the gods on the way.
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Culliganman360 said: Man I know I said it the other day but I’m changing up and gonna buy these  They should be matched up perfectly right?
I hate to be a broken record on here but this shit is confusing . I don’t want to invest and get the wrong shit
I'm pretty sure those are the matched blower and filter used in the series 1 flowhood. Just call FP, they will tell you of it's the correct match.
Mushboy is right, if you're going to spend it's going to be better long term to get something that's tall enough for bags. You can do bags with the 12" but it's balls.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26832361 - 07/19/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bet . Some blowers recommend u don’t put a speed controller on like the one I just posted. Would it be ok if I still put it on ? I feel like the website doesnt account for a pre filter.
So I don’t want to be underpowered
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Stipe-n Cap


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No man, they are cunts about revealing product numbers but they will certainly help you match their own products together. No need for a speed controller.
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