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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831652 - 07/18/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well, bags are usually taller than they are wide, so really they aren’t technically that thick and they’re smaller in general.  It’s when you get blocks the size of mono tubs being that deep.  I’d say putting more than 6 qts of spawn in a standard mono is pushing it, but I’d say, like others, 4 to 5 is more efficient. The heat aspect is just something I think gets overlooked, but most ppl don’t go above that 4-5 qts so it isn’t something that’s brought up often

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
    #26831655 - 07/18/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok makes sence so how many inches sub should be max because I am about to experiment with different subs and idk how thick they will actually turn out for the amounts I will use and do u also thing in a 54qt unmodified 1 lb is impossible in 6 weeks because my God I would really love to be able to achieve that


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831658 - 07/18/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You can easily do 2 runs in that time with fast genetics but your skill at growing will play a huge role as well

Like Faht said, dont overlook the heat factor. High temps and temp swings lead to contams


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26831661 - 07/18/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

2 runs with say 2 flushes? I'm used to getting 1/2 lb in about 4 weeks with 2 flushes and that was with the fastest strain I could find it was a maz strain


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831665 - 07/18/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And I know it's all strain dependant but if u were to go stain hunting for a fast strain what variety would u use?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831667 - 07/18/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No. Youd have to do one and dones.
1 week to colonise a week to pin and a week to harvest rough estimate


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26831671 - 07/18/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok I see one hitter quitter that's gonna be hard the most I've gotten from a first flush is 7oz


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831672 - 07/18/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds pretty good to me


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831673 - 07/18/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Now that being said if I were to do the 1 flush thing I know it would have an uneven pin set but then do u think the idea with putting it on its side would help get more weight on the first flush more room to pin


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831674 - 07/18/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And what variety do u think I should go strain hunting with to get the fastest strain possible?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831675 - 07/18/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Ok makes sence so how many inches sub should be max because I am about to experiment with different subs and idk how thick they will actually turn out for the amounts I will use and do u also thing in a 54qt unmodified 1 lb is impossible in 6 weeks because my God I would really love to be able to achieve that





Wouldn’t we all :lol:  I think the most I’ve seen lately is 9oz dry on a first flush.. or there abouts.. maybe a little less.  And that’s with a stellar culture of proven genetics that people take the utmost care and patience obtaining.  If you have 10qts of colonized spawn, you might be better off making one tub of 5 qts and stalling the other five in the fridge while you get in a first flush off the tub... then after you harvest the flush, trash it and immediately make another tub of 5 qts.

After the 2nd Tub flushes, push that sub for later flushes.  That might get you close to 1lb in the area only 1 tub fits in, in 6 weeks.. that’s if you already have fully colonized spawn.  Otherwise the obvious option is to make more than 1 tub at a time.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
    #26831677 - 07/18/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Dam I feel like my goal has been crushed before I even started


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831687 - 07/19/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I thought u already had 10 jars of spawn?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26831696 - 07/19/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It’s just an unrealistic goal for the timeframe and space you’re restricting yourself to.  That’s like saying someone that’s never swung a bat before expects to hit a homer to right field in PNC Park their first time up to the plate.

I think you might need to lower your expectations a bit.  I think 10-12 oz from a single mono tub is still a lofty goal, but obtainable with lots of luck and research.  But there’s a pretty big chance you’ll completely fail on your first go around.. you need to prepare yourself for that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
    #26831701 - 07/19/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I do have 10jars not fully colonized tho so I wont put them all to 1 tub but also now that I'll try the 1 flush tub in hopefully 3 weeks should I stick with the regular 650g coco I use but still use maybe like 7 or 8 jars of spawn i know i wont get a better yield but that should colonize it quicker right I'm not worried about being too efficient I have no problem making lots of spawn I'll do the extra work if it helps me get what I want


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831721 - 07/19/20 12:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No, it still takes the same time.  Butnyoull be offsetting your sub/spawn ratio which means less water for your killer flush and if you add more sub it will likely be too thick.  Maybe just jar fruit the extras for those last coupleounces if youre actually getting 7oz flushes or maybe u could fit a shoebox or 2?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26831735 - 07/19/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Wait so your saying if I add more spawn it wont speed up colonization even tho there will be more inoculation points and I dont get how adding more spawn will lower the water content when spawn contains close to 50% water for 1qt jars?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831741 - 07/19/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Its a ratio.  All the spawn has to recover from being broken up and spawned and the myc is a single organism. It has to decide when to fruit and that doesnt seem to get faster than a week with a good strain but usually 2 until u see pins

You could just case grains in a tray. Thats all spawn and no sub but still takes the same time although the yields suck IME:shrug:
I suggest getting more space so u can experiment and see for yourself what works best


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26831846 - 07/19/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone here used the rolly totes with wheels on em? I got one specifically because of more surface area.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26831853 - 07/19/20 03:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You mean the really long ones with short sides and blue wheels??

Somebody just posted with those I think. 10qts spawn in it.

They have so many huge tubs I’m tempted to buy every time I’m there now.


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