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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26830842 - 07/18/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I just rehydrate after harvest and slap the lid back on:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26830934 - 07/18/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I think im going to order 2 of these  and make 1 large fh.
Questions are
1. What size fan should I get .
2. I plan on using it in my dirty ass basement.. Spore load is probably really high I left 30 straight green shoeboxes laying around for a few weeks .
Will that be a problem trying to use a flowhood down there ...




Wheres the data sheet on this?  It doesnt look right.

*update it might be ok

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Check out my flow hood thread, there are some great mind involved it its evolution.

Starting using a flow hood in a dirty environment is asking for trouble.  Let the air settle in there and go and scrub it with soapy water and a mop.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26830945 - 07/18/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Cool guys thanks a lot. I dunked in my previous grow and it worked fine, but I'll try just a heavy misting this time.

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I wouldnt dunk just a heavy mist unless you pushed out multiple dry oz




Why would a big yield necessitate dunking?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: musicismath]
    #26830962 - 07/18/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Because mushrooms are water. More mushrooms grow more water is used. That's why we spawn to bulk.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26830996 - 07/18/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Because mushrooms are water. More mushrooms grow more water is used. That's why we spawn to bulk.



High quality h2o.




Where is the contamination thread?  Why do you sometimes get early contamination on subs before colonisation?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26831048 - 07/18/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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High quality h2o.





Ice, water, mushroom, vapor.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: musicismath]
    #26831070 - 07/18/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm considering running a side by side of never misting a sub before first flush is harvested vs my usual regime, as I feel like the drier I go, the better.
The RH in the grow space reads around 60% and my shoeboxes hold humidity really well it seems anyway.
Dunking after a flush just makes a waterlogged mess from what I've seen.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26831103 - 07/18/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Because mushrooms are water. More mushrooms grow more water is used. That's why we spawn to bulk.



High quality h2o.




Where is the contamination thread?  Why do you sometimes get early contamination on subs before colonisation?




Uncolonized food sources or improper sub pasteurization.

With coir, rolling around dirty spawn with the coir is enough to make coir explode in mold(uncolonized food sources from the poorly colonized grain)

Right?

Contam forum was merged with regular mushcult because it was a ghost town.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #26831119 - 07/18/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

@edmunter
I’m gonna have to ask company for data sheet or search around online for one .
I tried searching for about 2 hr and gave up

But why would using a fh in a dirty environment be bad? Would I just run through my filter faster?
I don’t think it’s possible to clean the lab that well so many mold spores are in there


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26831123 - 07/18/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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mushboy said:
Because mushrooms are water. More mushrooms grow more water is used. That's why we spawn to bulk.



High quality h2o.




Where is the contamination thread?  Why do you sometimes get early contamination on subs before colonisation?




Uncolonized food sources or improper sub pasteurization.

With coir, rolling around dirty spawn with the coir is enough to make coir explode in mold(uncolonized food sources from the poorly colonized grain)

Right?

Contam forum was merged with regular mushcult because it was a ghost town.




Yeah its a dark green mold that doesnt white up b4.  Its only on certain subs but across the board.  I think it might be some dodgy coir as im getting some doing ok and some not......  Probably losing 10% atm.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26831133 - 07/18/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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@edmunter
I’m gonna have to ask company for data sheet or search around online for one .
I tried searching for about 2 hr and gave up

But why would using a fh in a dirty environment be bad? Would I just run through my filter faster?
I don’t think it’s possible to clean the lab that well so many mold spores are in there





Id defo go in there with a deep clean, vacuum cleaner, bleach ect.  You dont want  mold ridden atmosphere for all the reasons you learn growing mushrooms.

They will land everywhere and even with a flow you are up against it.

Then when you set it up leave it on for a day.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26831138 - 07/18/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok thanks bro . I’m gonna get to it tonight :rockon:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26831140 - 07/18/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds similar to what I have. Somebody said looks like penicillium.

This shit came out of nowhere and grew on aborts in a bunch of tubs. I don’t even want to think about what I must be breathing in there the way it’s spread around all of a sudden.



That and aspergillis or whatever this darker one is at the bottom right both started becoming problems recently.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26831148 - 07/18/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

yep thats it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26831192 - 07/18/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

do grains transfered from agar always "fluff" up before they spread the ring/growth of rhizo/mycelium?

edit: when u are testing a grain jar on agar before using for g2g

kinda worried that I gave away bad agar, because I gave a friend a grain agar with a fluffy popcorn, it looked normal but does it always fluff up when transfered to a new medium?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26831303 - 07/18/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

They dont always fluff up but sometimes they do. If they dont start growing out pretty quickly though you'll know something's up.

How did you get a grain out to test it? If you weren't really careful you may have let some other spores into your master jar. That jar itself would be fine to spawn since it's colonized but if you G2G it could go badly


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26831321 - 07/18/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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They dont always fluff up but sometimes they do. If they dont start growing out pretty quickly though you'll know something's up.

How did you get a grain out to test it? If you weren't really careful you may have let some other spores into your master jar. That jar itself would be fine to spawn since it's colonized but if you G2G it could go badly




Well I dont wanna reveal too many of my secrets, but the grain I'm working with, you can just stab it 0.005 mm, and withdraw the corn
easily even with a one-use plastic-steel scalpel. You don't need more strength than a squirrel.  This kernel was brought to agar to test the sterility of a random kernel, which could result in a viable agar to give away. I prefer to give away clean agar, over spore prints, to people who want viable material from me.

But if you're thinking about opening the master jar for transfers in itself, I dont follow. If you're in the sab, with a "master jar", then you're assuming it's clean because you did a good transfer from something else you were convinced was clean to begin with otherwise whats the deal. I mean thats what they are for, to transfer colonized grains to other stuff. You always have a chance of it being contaminated when you are using it.

I've seen mycelium fluff up every time there's something to colonize, and there's no competition, but I've also seen big variations in how fluffy they become without it being related to being a grain or being transferred grain to agar. I've also seen it not fluff up, and fluff up, in response to competition.

I still don't understand it. Very clean, isolated transfers, will not fluff up when transferred to the same grain.

Agar to grain will fluff up. Popcorn to another grain will fluff up.
Some agar to agar will fluff up. My biopsy clones do not fluff up.
I've been unable to determine the "rule" of the behaviour.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #26831438 - 07/18/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It’s probably expanding in all directions looking for food at first. Then once it gets a feel for the surroundings focuses the growth and spreads.

At least that’s what I always assumed.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26831483 - 07/18/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck Ed I think I've got the same. Just finished harvesting the first flush and saw a little speck of dark green.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26831491 - 07/18/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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@edmunter
I’m gonna have to ask company for data sheet or search around online for one .
I tried searching for about 2 hr and gave up

But why would using a fh in a dirty environment be bad? Would I just run through my filter faster?
I don’t think it’s possible to clean the lab that well so many mold spores are in there





Id defo go in there with a deep clean, vacuum cleaner, bleach ect.  You dont want  mold ridden atmosphere for all the reasons you learn growing mushrooms.

They will land everywhere and even with a flow you are up against it.

Then when you set it up leave it on for a day.





I started having some issues ad now I spray down my lab with a light bleach solution prior to every session making sure to get the floor especially.  No issues since. I dont do that with my agar hood but I stand up and movearound abunch when nocing grain and that can introduce alot of unwanted contams. You dont need to run the hood for a day everytime its off assume that spores are everywhere again


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