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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: enlightenment]
    #23984529 - 01/05/17 05:01 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Well you mightve just saved me then, enlightenment. I am cooking grains sometime next week and I haven't done that since I was at sea level... now Im at 5,000 ft.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph] * 1
    #23984537 - 01/05/17 05:05 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Anyone got a sea level ruler :rofl: I think its near the tartan paint and glass hammer. :rofl: I have no idea what level my house is but im high if that counts :lmao:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23984560 - 01/05/17 05:09 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Just Google it. My home town is 409m above sea level.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MudaFuka]
    #23984630 - 01/05/17 05:32 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I've been using the same PSI and cooking times at 3,800 feet as I did at Sea Level in Kauai and hasn't changed results at all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MudaFuka]
    #23984646 - 01/05/17 05:37 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Good thing i took intro to GIS and remote sensing classes :lol:

We use a software which can show height or what ever data you input to it on a geo-referenced map, kinda interesting tbh.

Here's a project i had to do, i chose to map out the humidity for 7 days


Just to observe the change of humidity in my area so i can do some outdoor grows :awesomenod::thumbup:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23984753 - 01/05/17 06:14 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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I was PCing wheat kernels in my old PC for 90mins at 11 psi with no issues yet:shrug:
But I figured it was just a matter of time




I just had a unopened control jar
Contam after 2 months.

Pced 90mins at 12~ psi


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #23984759 - 01/05/17 06:17 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Well that's promising!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23984766 - 01/05/17 06:20 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I need to do a control jar and put a grain on agar to see the cfu

Thanks for the idea


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23984767 - 01/05/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Well taping quarters to the top of my rounded mirro rocker doesn't work like the flat presto one. So I have the 15 psi rocker and that's my tops. So Im sure Id be fine pcing oats at 15 for 90 mins which is what I was doing before, but I'm gonna go 120 minutes just in case and then I should be fine.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23984869 - 01/05/17 07:02 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

You should be fine:)

If you really want too weigh 8grams~ of string and just wrap it around the top alot then tie it off.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #23985983 - 01/06/17 08:30 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

So I've been using 52qt tubs so far, and they've been fine. I was thinking of transitioning to mini monos because I feel like I could be more space efficient. What are your thoughts?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
    #23986014 - 01/06/17 08:44 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

I'm like 99% sure I've read they set the gauges of the PC to sea level.. 14.7 psi. So assuming you live in an area with 12 psi atmospheric pressure, your gauge will read 0 until the internal pressure has raised to 2.7 psi (overall pressure of 14.7 psi)

This would explain why people at higher altitudes have pressure capping at 12-14 psi, because internally the PC is actually at 15 psi, but the overall pressure is still 3-1 psi lower than 15 psi at sea level (what the gauge was calibrated to)

This means that the people raising the gauges up to 15+ psi with weight added to the rocker are actually already doing what the chart posted by enlightenment is saying.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Huskies]
    #23986028 - 01/06/17 08:52 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

I love me some motherfucking mini monos.  Depending on the size, I can stack about 3 or 4 of them on top of my file cabinet.  They're also great because I'm not putting as much spawn into one bin.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MudaFuka]
    #23986129 - 01/06/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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I hate SGFCs too. I fruit every thing in monos. If it can be fruited in a shotgun, it can be fruited more easily in a mono.





If you fruit trays (not cakes) in a mono, do the trays have to cover the whole bottom of the mono or is it okay if you have only one tray in a mini mono which covers only the half of the bottom?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #23986134 - 01/06/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

It would be fine using a tray that covers half of a mini. Just gotta be more attentive with your misting, because it's going to have a slightly harder time maintaining a good RH this time of year


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AlCapone2k]
    #23986136 - 01/06/17 09:58 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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MudaFuka said:
I hate SGFCs too. I fruit every thing in monos. If it can be fruited in a shotgun, it can be fruited more easily in a mono.





If you fruit trays (not cakes) in a mono, do the trays have to cover the whole bottom of the mono or is it okay if you have only one tray in a mini mono which covers only the half of the bottom?


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The fuller the mono, the better.  It's the heat and condensation generated by what's inside that makes a mono work by generating heat based air movement.  It there's not enough substrate, the effect just doesn't happen.  Hard to say if half the mono full will work or not but if it was 3/4 or more full, it would definitely work better.    Personally, I'd probably be somewhat reluctant to use a mono for substrate taking up only half the container.  If I did, I'd probably be more attentive to misting and fanning as needed.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23986140 - 01/06/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

yeah, I have noticed this. A smaller tray in my mono was drying out very fast which lead to misting every hour. Maybe it's bacterial or something.

Therefore I removed it from the Mono.

Now I have a quite bigger tray in my mono but it's not drying out at all, misted it yesterday and since now the surface of the sub is still glistening.


Would you recommend to put the trays back to my SGFC? I just removed it yesterday due to the discussion two days ago.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mad Season]
    #23986153 - 01/06/17 10:04 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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I'm like 99% sure I've read they set the gauges of the PC to sea level.. 14.7 psi. So assuming you live in an area with 12 psi atmospheric pressure, your gauge will read 0 until the internal pressure has raised to 2.7 psi (overall pressure of 14.7 psi)

This would explain why people at higher altitudes have pressure capping at 12-14 psi, because internally the PC is actually at 15 psi, but the overall pressure is still 3-1 psi lower than 15 psi at sea level (what the gauge was calibrated to)

This means that the people raising the gauges up to 15+ psi with weight added to the rocker are actually already doing what the chart posted by enlightenment is saying.




I don't have a unit with a gauge. I just have a 15 psi weight. I know it's at 15 the first time it blows so it's still 15 inside my unit no matter what because that's just a simple physics methods of measuring the pressure anywhere in the world it wouldn't matter in that case.

But I'm just saying that I can't add weight or haven't figured out a good enough way to add it and keep the rocker symmetrically weighed so it still functions correctly. So if it takes 19 psi to properly sterilize something at my altitude at 90 mins, I'm just gonna run 15 for 2 hours then


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23986314 - 01/06/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

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I love me some motherfucking mini monos.  Depending on the size, I can stack about 3 or 4 of them on top of my file cabinet.  They're also great because I'm not putting as much spawn into one bin.



:awesomenod: I love some 27qt tubs, one hole at sub level on each long side and one on each short side at top 2-3 quarts spawn & around4- 5 quarts CVG with 1 quart of pasturized 50/50 peat verm casing fruited at spawning is my favorite setup. Less eggs in one basket and not sure why but I seem to get better BE in minis.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23986342 - 01/06/17 11:36 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

You know why you get better BE in minis. I know you know.

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Anyone got a sea level ruler :rofl: I think its near the tartan paint and glass hammer. :rofl: I have no idea what level my house is but im high if that counts :lmao:




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