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Drboomer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26818277 - 07/11/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: It’s pretty solid, I haven’t made anymore modded lids since. It works fine for long term.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#26818314 - 07/11/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: It’s pretty solid, I haven’t made anymore modded lids since. It works fine for long term.
Where is that from? Wish it was in the actual tek so I wouldn’t have modded my lids unnecessarily when I, y’know, followed the tek.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist]
#26818341 - 07/11/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It’s been edited since to say that I use the no mods lots now. Remember when I wrote that using no mods was a no no. I was being cautious not to endorse something less proven. People who write teks can change their minds.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#26818349 - 07/11/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Drboomer said: I will not modify a single lid again. I have been doing 7 jar spawn runs trying to narrow down random ass contams I've been pulling in. I've got 18 jars contaminated out of 35. All different inoc methods, 5 different agar dishes, and 2 different grain preps. All but 2 of the jars contamed are modded with an sfd,the two contamed unmodded lids were marked as I bumped the box while innoculating. All surviving jars have unmodded lids.
I modded my lids with an 1/8 inch drill bit, rtv, nickel sized sfds. The kids were prepped with 60 grit sand paper then cleaned with iso. I put a bead of rtv around the sfd and pressed it down, then after it dried used a paint brush to spread rtv 1/8 over the edge of the filter and out onto the lid. I'm recycling them all an buying all unmodded lids asap maybe all sfds I bought were bunk or fakes but in modded works so why mess with it.
Did u consider user error? Maybe you didnt even glue the sfd's on properly? I have stalling 100% of the time with grain jars when using unmodded lids unless theyre left loose which is much more risky and more work than using modded lids. Just saying. I recommend using modded
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26818526 - 07/12/20 12:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I not only considered I assumed it was user error at first. I have remade the lids several times. I also believe I may have gotten counterfeit sfds. A TC sent me some prints with a couple sfds those sfds I have lost exactly zero due to contams that I blatantly didn't cause or was an iffy culture. They are thinner and a much different texture than the ones I bought.
But really again if unmodded works why fuck with it. I don't think cracking them loose is much of a risk. I left them tight until shake.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#26818535 - 07/12/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Did u get the paper ones? I accidentally ordered those a time or 2
If u have a bunch of jars its a pita to uncrackem all and tighten to shake and loosen again. I understand if its just a few jars tho
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26818544 - 07/12/20 12:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm only running about 24-48 jars so not a ton and I'm going to switch completely to LI so no shaking after the first time.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#26818554 - 07/12/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice... I still shake my li jars. Just keep doing it and youll know what works for you tho. Experience is a great teacher
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26818813 - 07/12/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you guys think this'll be enough?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26818863 - 07/12/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I thought I had a contam on an APE plate a couple of weeks ago but it was just really wispy faint myc, it has since bulked out with a few transfers. However, now I'm having the same issue with an RW plate.

I'm assuming it's the agar. Is this likely too much or to little nutes? I'm just using a basic 10:10:500ml mix.
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That doesn’t look great. I’ve had myc grow into the surface but usually on softer plates and never the whole thing like that.
Even if it is myc I’d start over. I’ve grained that kind of growth before and it worked but was super slow. In the end it would’ve been quicker to start over with normal myc and make up the lost time once it hits grain.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26818887 - 07/12/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: That doesn’t look great. I’ve had myc grow into the surface but usually on softer plates and never the whole thing like that.
Is that what's it's doing, growing into the surface? Would that mean my agar is too soft? Like I said my APE came out fine after a couple of transfers. That pic was straight from spore. Those dirty spots are actually just clumps of spores. I was too lazy to get the pc out to sterilise some swabs so I just scraped a bit off it
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If it’s mycelium yeah, it looks pretty weird though.
I’m trying to find a certain pic but this you can see how it started normal then went into the agar.

This culture I had so much trouble with that I ended up putting some to grain just to see what happened. It worked but was slow. This was before the pin grew so I wasn’t even totally sure it was mycelium.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26818898 - 07/12/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said:
Do you guys think this'll be enough? 
between me n u its no wonder ppl are sayin they cant get qt jars lol
i carried these 6 dozen down to the garage just to get them out of the way. i have so many damn jars its not even funny. but most of mine dont have nuttn in them. i only been goin thru about 4 jars every 2 months since ive been only growin pans
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26818909 - 07/12/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya that 2nd one barely looks like myc at all. Hmmm... My APE turned out like this after T1;
 And it was the same as this RW.
I'm happy to wait and see, but it's good to know that it's likely due to soft agar.
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Can anyone tell me some types of clear agar besides mea and pda I love dog food but I would really like to experiment with more varieties of clear agar i just dont know any besides the 2 i mentioned
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Grain water agar. If you wash the grain well, it can be fairly sediment free. It's one of my favorites
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Most agar can be made relatively clear by filtering out the sediment that makes it cloudy and what not.
You can make grain water agar by boiling grain flour in water, filtering the mash, and adding agar to the water. You could try boiling the dog food to leech the nutes out, filter the broth, and it will probably be mostly clear.
You can add stuff to mea to make it more exciting haha
Try using 1/3 less malt and replacing it with an equal weight of black strap molasses. BSM is awesome as an agar additive
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26819491 - 07/12/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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First time going agar to grain. Noc’d two jars with Avery Albino and another two with TOC (mush love to justanoob ). Left them in a closet while I was gone for a week, came home today and found this:

Weird that one of each is at 90% or so, while the other two are 20%? They look a bit hazy to me overall, but up close it seems like it’s all mycelium. Any opinions?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26819525 - 07/12/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Most agar can be made relatively clear by filtering out the sediment that makes it cloudy and what not.
You can make grain water agar by boiling grain flour in water, filtering the mash, and adding agar to the water. You could try boiling the dog food to leech the nutes out, filter the broth, and it will probably be mostly clear.
You can add stuff to mea to make it more exciting haha
Try using 1/3 less malt and replacing it with an equal weight of black strap molasses. BSM is awesome as an agar additive
Got any more molasses agar recipes? The only nute sources I've got in the house right now are BRF and molasses (and I suppose I could make GSW).
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