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Took me a few years to figure that out.. go hard in the winter and buy yourself a good vacuum sealer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#26796468 - 07/01/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I’ve been running a window ac cuz it’s 105-110 most days but it dries all my stuff out so I’d have to recalibrate things.
This is my first summer growing though. I just decided to run pans and stone producers until it cools down. I’ve knocked out so many cube varieties anyway I’m more into fruiting stone producers. Or any new species really once I tried pans and saw how different the trips can be.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: fahtster]
#26796476 - 07/01/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn, I've only just started, don't want to put everything off for a couple of months.  I can put those trays in a minimono with some ice but that'll bring humidity to virtually 0. I run the AC most days, just not when I'm not home.
Maybe some gourmet that likes the heat?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26796491 - 07/01/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Roger Clemency said: Some no prep WBS I did last night. 275g grain, 200g water. Seems like a pretty good recipe.
Have you used that recipe before? I can't point you to a post, but I've seen a few that say grain to water ratio for no prep should be 2:1. I've made lots of no prep millet bags with 2L millet and 1L water, they came out great.
I’ve seen that too. The first time I tried NP I used AKA (holla) recipe of WBS to 400ml mark and half pint of water. My jars ended up a little too full and a lil wet for my liking so I scaled down a little to the recipe quoted above. If you’re going by volume it’s almost exactly 2:1 since 275g of WBS comes right below the 400ml mark, and water is 1g per 1ml so 200 is slightly over half.
The jars look just about perfect for how quick and easy. Idk if it’s just random chance or genetics but the first set I did with AKA recipe have colonized basically 100% by this morning which is the 7th day since LI. I’ve consistently been 10+ days.
I also used a soft grain water agar this time so that could be helping as well
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I got that ratio from an older thread I can’t remember who’s it was though.
But for whatever reason the myc loves the no prep. Only downside is it’s a pain in the ass shaking it after the pc to break up the clumps.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26796554 - 07/01/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try a couple jars weighed out with the recipe I put up there. I’m curious how close that is to what you’ve been getting. I remember asking if you use a half pint jar or a measuring cup for the water because I feel like a small amount can make a decent difference in these jars. I know a qt is 4 cups but the qt jar only gives you a 3 cup line, so do you need to go all the way to the top for an actual qt or where the bend starts?
The batch I weighed out shook up much easier and seems really well hydrated. It smells a little stronger than when you prep and rinse is my only complaint lol.
I don’t remember if I posted a pic of a jar in this thread or not but this is the stuff
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I’m really imprecise with most stuff. Only a few of my jars have the lines on them so I use one to scoop up seeds to about the 400 line then pour it into the other jars. Then I have a half pint jar I fill and pour into the quart jars with seeds in them. The water difference can’t be more than like a spoonful but the seeds could be varied enough to matter.
Yesterday was the first time I ran a whole batch of no prep jars. Previously I would prep the seeds and only have 7 or 8 jars worth so I started doing no prep to fill in the extra space.
How soon are you shaking yours after pc?
Jars a little dirty but this is how mine look

I’m gonna try rinsing them off real quick next time and see what happens. I’m pretty sure the myc likes all the grain dust and stuff on the seeds.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#26796621 - 07/01/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: no prep, like you just put a certain amount of water in the jar with the grain and PC or what?
I put 2L millet, 1L water in a bag, PC, done. You can use any volume in any vessel, just stick a a 2:1 ratio. But you MUST use gypsum. No prep creates quite a bit of burst grains, gypsum keeps it from becoming a mass of glue.
I've tried oats, milo, and millet. LOVE millet.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26796625 - 07/01/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: But for whatever reason the myc loves the no prep. Only downside is it’s a pain in the ass shaking it after the pc to break up the clumps.
Must use gypsum! Makes it a lot easier.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: badsponge]
#26796650 - 07/01/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought about gypsum but I hate the way it looks in jars lol.
I shook directly after PC and then again the next morning. The first batch I had a few grains stuck to the bottom corner of a few jars but none this second time.
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I love millet and WBS but it’s a flash prep/load wet for me or nothing. I don’t use gypsum for much ever.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26796902 - 07/01/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I love millet and WBS but it’s a flash prep/load wet for me or nothing. I don’t use gypsum for much ever.
What you mean by flash prep?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26796912 - 07/01/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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cause the seeds are so small it doesnt have to soak or cook long. itll be hydrated with just a quick boil, strain it, and jar it. usually just undercook it a tad and load it into jars wet. during the PC cycle the remaining moisture will get absorbed. but wbs and millet always make a fucking mess no matter how careful you are. you'll be picking it out of your flooring for the next year.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#26796928 - 07/01/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been doing no prep millet but struggling to get the moisture right. I'll flash prep the next batch and see if that's better.
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I gotta do some WBS tonight, how long should it be boiled for??? 10 min, I let my oats go for 15.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26796985 - 07/01/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I love millet and WBS but it’s a flash prep/load wet for me or nothing. I don’t use gypsum for much ever.
Yeah, prepping them at all, even if it's just an overnight soak, eliminates the need for gypsum. I only need is for no prep grains.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: badsponge]
#26797008 - 07/01/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I do my flash prep by pre measuring out my grain. Then I get the water boiling. As soon as it’s at a rolling boil I add the grain. I wait for it to almost get to a boil and then kill the heat. Check every 10 min to note how many grains are burst. Once it gets to 2-3% burst grains (usually takes 20-30 min) I strain it and rinse with cold water to wash off any starch etc. Then I shake off most of the excess water in the strainer and jar it up wet. Only fill the jars half way, the grain will expand further in the PC.The grain should be wet enough to stick together but there shouldn’t be pooling water in the jar. Be sure to shake up the grain when you remove it from the PC and it may need a day to absorb any excess moisture. I use it for WBS too.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Munchauzen]
#26797025 - 07/01/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: cause the seeds are so small it doesnt have to soak or cook long. itll be hydrated with just a quick boil, strain it, and jar it. usually just undercook it a tad and load it into jars wet. during the PC cycle the remaining moisture will get absorbed. but wbs and millet always make a fucking mess no matter how careful you are. you'll be picking it out of your flooring for the next year.
Ahhhhhh okay cool. I'll have to keep that in mind. Never done WBS. Making the transition this week. So I get to spend the next few weeks trying different preps to figure out what works best for me. Hooray me...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26797039 - 07/01/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Looks like most of them aborted. I’ve been having problems with this too due to the heat lately. Seems like even the low 80s is too much for some types.
Shit, this might be one of my problems. I get a lot of tubs that colonize, don't pin, but have no visible signs of contam. I only grow B+, sometimes hit the jackpot, sometimes just fizzles. My room thermometer records the highest temp, which is 84F. Maybe I should try some higher heat strains. I read Mazatepec and Cambodian do well in higher temps.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: badsponge]
#26797108 - 07/01/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just poured my first barehanded petris and it felt like my technique was better than usual
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