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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26791099 - 06/28/20 11:07 PM (12 days, 9 hours ago)

Guys, how PID works? I was thinking that it just turn on/off heating element... But you say it also works at lower watts?

So it's overall (18-24 hours cycle) cheaper to run 5500 W element than 3500 W?

Also, any idea for float valve if you don't have water hose and pressure? I was thinking about second drum with only water and I would add it manually when runs low... So I can use sterilising drum as whole, without false bottom.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tweeq]
    #26791131 - 06/29/20 12:11 AM (12 days, 8 hours ago)

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You already got spores. Learn sab work and agar and grow your own. You won't regret it. Made that decision only 1,5 yrs ago and haven't been out of shrooms since then. Best life choice ever :smile:

You live in Germany. If youre lazy like me you can just order premade agar dishes delivered to your door. I use Pilzagar nach Kimmig 20 dishes for like 14 euros.

You can do it.



How do those work actually?
I will now look into which method would be the best/cheapest one but I thought about getting one big storage box. Or is it better to get many small ones?
A harvest of about 20gr dry would be great.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bsdgaou]
    #26791140 - 06/29/20 12:19 AM (12 days, 8 hours ago)

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Guys, how PID works? I was thinking that it just turn on/off heating element... But you say it also works at lower watts?

So it's overall (18-24 hours cycle) cheaper to run 5500 W element than 3500 W?

Also, any idea for float valve if you don't have water hose and pressure? I was thinking about second drum with only water and I would add it manually when runs low... So I can use sterilising drum as whole, without false bottom.



You can build a separate boiler and pipe the steam in but a float is pretty necessary regardless;
Unless of course you can baby sit the steamer for 24hrs straight.

PID isn't exactly necessary. As long as you have enough water to keep the element
submerged it can stay on for the entire cycle. If you dont mind the electricity use.

As for the wattage usage question... :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Bsdgaou]
    #26791216 - 06/29/20 01:46 AM (12 days, 6 hours ago)

PIDs can be programmed to perform a number of functions however the one's you would be interested in have to do with:

1. bringing your substrate up to temperature,
2.reducing power to element to preserve energy consumption while maintaining temperature,
3.turning your element off once your cycle is complete.

They can also be programmed to turn on your flowhood, sound alarms or any number of other things that are probably not necessary.

You'd want a higher wattage element so that your overall cycle time is shorter but this isn't necessary. If your sterilizer is going to be out in the elements with rain and snow then you'll never get up to temp with a single low watt element during the fall/winter.

Look at Caps' post about his bare bones steamer and you'll see that you can get by with very little under the right conditions. The benefit of a PID/power cycling etc is that it dials in your cycle for  maximum automation, safety  and repeatability.

If you don't have a water line to hook to your steamer you can definitely have a drum reservoir filled and hooked up with a pressure regulator for water supply. This will allow you to run a smaller volume of water in your steamer which will heat faster, the float will ensure that even with a low working volume of water it won't boil dry or cold shock the system. Everything is automated with a heat probe running to the PID so you can confidently walk away without worry of boiling dry or starting a fire.

You still want a small false bottom/rack to allow steam to freely enter the bottom of the sterilizer.

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float is pretty necessary regardless;
Unless of course you can baby sit the steamer for 24hrs straight.

PID isn't exactly necessary. As long as you have enough water to keep the element
submerged it can stay on for the entire cycle. If you dont mind the electricity use.




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26791265 - 06/29/20 02:47 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

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Search for:

The Nature of things: The evolutionary story of how fungi shaped all terrestrial life

It's on YouTube. Goes well with some concentrates before bed:thumbup:




I think they took it down, at least i can't find anything under that name. There are some videos that look pretty cool though that popped up.



It's there, it's just region locked to Canada.
I've installed Tor, changed location to Canada, watched half an hour of it and then realized I already watched it once before. :facepalm:
Direct link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xKeJyvnuWs


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jackrabbitcytoplas]
    #26791285 - 06/29/20 03:17 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)


Do they look dry or too wet?
My first try with an grow kit and I would like to now if it was too much water or not.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PsycDiesel]
    #26791290 - 06/29/20 03:26 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

Looks okay, maybe a tad on the dry side. Those are ready for harvest and printing though!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #26791294 - 06/29/20 03:35 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

Thanks I already took prints from 4 mushroom heads. Hope this is enough for my first try with PF TEK or those agar dishes. Need to look what they are excactly.

Which rice I should buy for PF TEK?
I found the vermiculite but struggle with the rice.

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B075LPNL4Z/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2RKIGWMAY6T38&psc=1

https://www.amazon.de/Alnatura-Bio-Basmati-Vollkorn-Pack/dp/B06X6MYWRN/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=brauner+reis&qid=1593433809&sr=8-5

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07L8GJ89N/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A15GCRPQBU9R4J&psc=1


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PsycDiesel]
    #26791505 - 06/29/20 07:10 AM (12 days, 1 hour ago)

Any brown rice will do, pick something thats reasonably priced :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #26791548 - 06/29/20 07:42 AM (12 days, 54 minutes ago)

Those look way wet to me. It’s weird cuz usually the dark flesh means too much water but they grew pretty normal. Maybe they just would’ve been giant with less hydration.

Just remember all the water they need is already inside the block. The misting is just to keep it humid really.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
    #26791551 - 06/29/20 07:47 AM (12 days, 49 minutes ago)

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All my Maz have been about the same... never more than 2.5-3 in tall... they are rather potent tho... not PE powerful but stronger than some of the other cubes I've grown...




Perhaps they feel stronger because they’re hollow? Same amount of actives in less material, so weight-based doses have more actives in total? Just noticed the hollow stem during harvest and wondered.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist]
    #26791561 - 06/29/20 07:53 AM (12 days, 43 minutes ago)

My maz have always been tiny but super dense. The close up in my signature is a maz clone that was tiny but the densest tub I’ve ever had.



I couldn’t believe how big they can get when I saw other grows.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26791563 - 06/29/20 07:55 AM (12 days, 41 minutes ago)

Dense indeed. This was my tub when I woke up today...



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #26791564 - 06/29/20 07:55 AM (12 days, 41 minutes ago)

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Those look way wet to me. It’s weird cuz usually the dark flesh means too much water but they grew pretty normal. Maybe they just would’ve been giant with less hydration.

Just remember all the water they need is already inside the block. The misting is just to keep it humid really.



Thanks I didn't know that. For the second flush I added way less water and they look a bit healthier.  I think I started adding less water after I saw how dark the head is. At first I thought it would be an abort but it started growing again.

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Any brown rice will do, pick something thats reasonably priced :shrug:



So even the basic brown rice flour?
If yes, I will order it now and I can start with everything right before the weekend


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PsycDiesel]
    #26791595 - 06/29/20 08:15 AM (12 days, 21 minutes ago)

Hey guys, I'm sorry to change the subject but is there a down side to using a loop to swab a print rather than pressing the whole head on foil?  I am going to try out the clone-spore-clone-etc process when it's time, but have never taken a print before.

(General cult discussion question I think)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26791609 - 06/29/20 08:24 AM (12 days, 11 minutes ago)



Trying to run king oysters like cubes.
mixed with coir in the pint jar, allowed to colonize, scrapped the top and cold shocked in fridge overnight
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #26792076 - 06/29/20 01:19 PM (11 days, 19 hours ago)

Thanks Caps P9 and others for all that info on steamers. Your right I'm very uncertain of my technical capabilities indeed. Also we have to use 240 volts here.. but I have a buddy who used to make custom gear for industry clients and whi has been repairing washing machines and such for 35 years. I'll go talk to him and pay him a few euros to make me one.

A big ass pc from the US would also be like 300,- for even a presto with
all the crazy import taxes and what not. Provided they'll start up export again some day..


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tweeq]
    #26792185 - 06/29/20 02:06 PM (11 days, 18 hours ago)

Utsf and look up josex and how he got his aa sterilizer sent to Spain. I think he used some 3rd party importer but it saved him hundreds.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26792201 - 06/29/20 02:10 PM (11 days, 18 hours ago)

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Utsf and look up josex and how he got his aa sterilizer sent to Spain. I think he used some 3rd party importer but it saved him hundreds.




Thanks mushboy. Ive seen those 3d party import companies too but also no luck so far. Covid I guess


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    #26792206 - 06/29/20 02:11 PM (11 days, 18 hours ago)

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