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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
#26760640 - 06/20/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just tilted the bag, took advantage of my box’s width. Certainly not as easy as jars, but nothing that made me feel like I needed to avoid doing it again.
And honestly, doing it just once with a bag is a lot less of a pain than doing it 6x with jars. Not to mention all the extra exposure.
Edited by Phrontist (06/20/20 08:51 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist]
#26761878 - 06/20/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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@phrontist I’m gonna use em for spawn bro oats as my grain also How did you prep your oats? And what is your method for bags from loading em up to knockin em up?.. If you don’t mind sharing
I’m gonna try n get 20 or so bags done by tomorrow . I planned on using 1 colonized quart to a 5 quart bag. Looking to see fast colonize times like I get with jars. But not tryin to sell myself short either u feel me
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Anastomosis] 1
#26762234 - 06/21/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: Ac quit, my grow room is 83-84° during the day, not ideal. My two tubs of TOC don't seem to like it one bit, hoping the melmak will power through.
They'll be fine as song as it doesn't get hotter. Might have to take the lids off and mist with cold water.
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Culliganman360 said: Got em .

But I read that these .2 ‘s are bad cus they don’t allow air to fill up in the bag . (I’m gonna be doin them in a Sab)
.2 is what you want. .5 allows pennicillium to sneak in. Good luck doing in an sab though....
Both things you said are inaccurate. 83-84 is too hot. Misting with cold water is will do absolutely nothing but probably make the condensation and contamination problems worse. Need the room temp under 80F at least to get some decent results.
Airborne Penicillium spores have a diameter of 3 μm. No way that is getting through a .5 μm filter.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickyswamps]
#26762262 - 06/21/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Hey guys I put the spawn to bulk in this tub 16 days ago and am at this stage now, have been fanning about three times a day and misting when I think is necessary, how do you think it’s looking and any tips to make fruiting happen quicker? Thanks 🙂
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickyswamps]
#26762423 - 06/21/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: Ac quit, my grow room is 83-84° during the day, not ideal. My two tubs of TOC don't seem to like it one bit, hoping the melmak will power through.
They'll be fine as song as it doesn't get hotter. Might have to take the lids off and mist with cold water.
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Culliganman360 said: Got em .

But I read that these .2 ‘s are bad cus they don’t allow air to fill up in the bag . (I’m gonna be doin them in a Sab)
.2 is what you want. .5 allows pennicillium to sneak in. Good luck doing in an sab though....
Both things you said are inaccurate. 83-84 is too hot. Misting with cold water is will do absolutely nothing but probably make the condensation and contamination problems worse. Need the room temp under 80F at least to get some decent results.
Airborne Penicillium spores have a diameter of 3 μm. No way that is getting through a .5 μm filter.
Yes, I was wrong about pennicillium specifically. But there are plenty of contaminates that can get in a .5 filter. I used em for years until I had issues I couldn't resolve until I went to .2
I never suggested that homeboy keep his temps in the mid 80's. I only wanted to reassure him it will be ok and not to fret over it since his ac is out. I will mention though, that if your culture is pure and your grain is correct, higher temps are faster. But your shit has to be on time.
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Culliganman360 said: @phrontist I’m gonna use em for spawn bro oats as my grain also How did you prep your oats? And what is your method for bags from loading em up to knockin em up?.. If you don’t mind sharing
I’m gonna try n get 20 or so bags done by tomorrow . I planned on using 1 colonized quart to a 5 quart bag. Looking to see fast colonize times like I get with jars. But not tryin to sell myself short either u feel me
Cool, I use oats as well with Bod’s Easy AF prep, leaving them spread out on my counter overnight to dry as much as possible. 1080 grams dry oats (what I’d need for 6qt g2g jars) go into the bag and I seal the end. Pressure cook same as I would jars, just make sure bag isn’t touching any side walls or it could melt. Colonized jar and receiving bag into SAB, slice open bag end, dump jar in. Reseal bag and mix it all up.
I will say that even though I was initially worried about the amount of moisture inside the bag after PC, I knocked it up anyway and it’s colonizing beautifully so far. The moisture looked like a lot at first, but it might be the same amount that would have been in 6qts, just all in one bag instead of spread out. Know what I mean? Anyway, results are what matters, and this is what it looks like after 48 hours:
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Phrontist] 1
#26762633 - 06/21/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bro u use a impulse sealer to seal em? I dident want to buy 1 I was thinking bread tie or ziptie bag shut after gtg. And your bag is colonizing good bro. Got me excited lol.
On second note. Can I seal my bags with my vacuum sealer. It’s got a function on it so I can only seal not vacuum if I want... Think I can get away with it?
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Is that how you do bulk culligan? Im thinking about g2g, whats your contam rate compared to just spawning straight from the masters?
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Culliganman360 said: On second note. Can I seal my bags with my vacuum sealer. It’s got a function on it so I can only seal not vacuum if I want... Think I can get away with it?
That’s exactly what I do. Use my vacuum sealer’s “seal only” (no vacuum) option.
I also did two seals about 1/4” apart, just to be safe.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26762706 - 06/21/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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@ovoid I gtg jars but doing 200-300 gets old . That’s why I wana step up and use bags. I don’t spawn masters bro so I wouldn’t be able to compare. But Imo i would expand them masters atleast 1 time . 1 master to 5-8 receiving jars and you will see fast colonize times . But if u haven’t tried gtg... my first few gtg went bad it took me a few dry runs to get my tek down.
@phrontist sweet glad to hear that. Now I got no excuses to not do em today lol
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Been looking for this post since last night lol 🤟 this what motivated me
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JHOVA said: ask stareatclouds. he does it with a vertical sab.
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Do this. Everybody looks for the tallest and widest SAB they can find, but nobody just flips the fucker on the end. Saran is clear, tight, and blocks drafts. The lid to the tote should be your opening where you wrap with Saran and cut holes in. There's more I could say, but want to finalize an optimal MVP before I start recommending it.
Note: This was my original SAB so the armholes are already cut in. They're not in use for this design and should be ignored as they're taped over.
I have a few modifications I'm trying out and don't want to say too much before the Tek, but I'm having solid success with this. My last 4 bags all colonized and fruited fine. 2 hit 3 flushes, another is on the 3rd now, and I'm about to harvest the 2nd on the 4th bag. This would mark what I believe is the 24th successful bag I've inoculated in my SAB and fruited. My biggest bottleneck so far is learning how to prep and sterilize bags.
I've also done several CVG and spawn bags with liquids successfully. Most can probably manage with a syringe in a smaller tote, but I dumped liquid in a few and got more than a few attempts to fruit multiple flushes.
You don't need a plastic tote. Just something you can see through that will stop drafts and be fine to work in. I haven't had time to try this, but I see no reason why you can't just use the racking on literally any wire shelf and wrap it in Saran. Go get some PVC pipe and construct the frame of a wide and tall rectangle and wrap that bitch in Saran. I'm sure it'll work.
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 This tub isn't getting any top pins and only side pins I used a liner and my other tubs are fine except this one. Thoughts?
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Improper surface conditions maby? Case it next time and give a heavy mist for 20 seconds .. that’s when I stopped getting side and bottom pins.
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Anybody ever heard of using duck manure in substrate?
Might just use it in the same way you'd use chicken manure and give it a whirl for the heck of it. its readily soluble in water compared to chicken so it'd be easy to add in low concentrations
Anybody know a good casing tek? I've been going through my tek compendium and and quite a few of the links have been broken since the great cultivation purge and my casing section is nearly empty
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 This tub isn't getting any top pins and only side pins I used a liner and my other tubs are fine except this one. Thoughts?
I can't really tell fr the pics but too looks like it's a little dry or maybe bacterial. I'd mist to get some droplets on the surface(if there aren't already) then put some fae to it to help evaporate off the moisture.
You do have some knots on top so pins are coming but not a whole lot. It should look alot better in a couple days.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#26766037 - 06/21/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: Anybody ever heard of using duck manure in substrate?
Might just use it in the same way you'd use chicken manure and give it a whirl for the heck of it. its readily soluble in water compared to chicken so it'd be easy to add in low concentrations
Anybody know a good casing tek? I've been going through my tek compendium and and quite a few of the links have been broken since the great cultivation purge and my casing section is nearly empty 
What would you want to use it for? Cubes will grow without added nutrients in the sub or casing, buy if you are running pans than it might help. Ducks are dirty fuckers and will eat anything though. Make sure to Pasteurize it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#26766508 - 06/21/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psilosopherr said: Anybody ever heard of using duck manure in substrate?
Check Croncir's posts recently. I THINK* he said it might be too acidic.
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figures, I knew my ducks had to be acid junkies or something. The first time I heard them chewing something wet I thought I was hallucinating. Such a trippy sound. I've gotta try to record them all doing it in unison
Thanks I'll dig that up now
didn't see any duck stuff but found cronicr posting an indoor grow he did with unpasteurized manure that actually worked decently well, thought that was pretty cool
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#26773640 - 06/22/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does anybody know if I can add lime stone powder to my soaking rye grain instead of gypsum powder. It has a lot of the same properties and is used in the same way as gypsum for gardens. I have tried finding gypsum power around my area with no luck. Thank you.
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Hey folks. First time with grain and I need some advice. Does this look ready for G2G? This is 5 days after a shake at ~50%. Do I shake again? Wait a couple days?
 
Also how many grain jars should I prep? This one is 3/4 quarts. Thanks for your help
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