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marvins
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roarkell]
#26748543 - 06/16/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello there, how are they looking? I think they started fat but are getting skinny too fast, what would cause that?

thanks!
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FriedEgg



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Dracultivation said: So another follow-up question for the hive mind (I know I seem to have a lot on here, but bear with me.) and I'm not really finding an answer searching through the different TEKS.
Current stage: Agar to Jar (Pint size jars)
When moving from agar to jars, how much do you need to put into a jar for good non-stalling growth? Do I slice my petri into a tic-tac-toe and put the entire dish in before I shake? Can I put just one 'square' from that pattern in my jars?
Somewhat related. How much should I save to transfer over once I clean my pertri dishes and make more agar?

put at least a 1/4 plate into each jar and it should colonize pretty fast. i do the tic tac toe method too. more inoc points makes it colonize faster.
i don't understand your last question. how much what should you transfer over to where?
Apologies. Agar-to-Agar transfers. Should I just save one of my dishes? I don't know how long they last.
yea you can take a transfer from a plate and then store it in the fridge for months up to a year.
after 6-12 months they start to dry out so if you want to store them longer than that, just transfer to a new plate every 3 months or look into storing on "slants"
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gizmo1



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26748788 - 06/16/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Gizmo I hate that dark stuff.
When I get it it always makes these weird shapes with raised bumps in the mold.
Do you think it's something other than just black mold? I find it weird that I got like 4 different type of mold there and none of them are touching except maybe the two on the top leftish there is some clear shit around them I don't think it's bacteria either but could be.
I don't think I'll be leaving dishes unwrapped anymore I was starting to get kind of lazy when it came to wrapping I'd just leave freshly poured dishes sitting undisturbed until I was ready to use them. My guess is because of the fan. My tubs have been a little wet since the weather changed I've been using a fan in grow area to up FAE. I fruit in my lab area so I think the fan pushed contamination in the unwrapped dishes?
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Gan
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26748848 - 06/16/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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First thing I'm gonna do with my flowhood when I build it is the blank petri test in front of the hood open for an hour or so. You think it's necessary to wait the week or so before using the hood to confirm the plate is clean? Or can you be pretty sure if it passes the lighter test and/or anemometer test all around the face of the filter then it's fine to use right away?
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mushboy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26748863 - 06/16/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've put opened petri dishes in my sab for an hour and they dont contam. If they did contaminate then I know i dont have still air.
With a hood youd just need to expose a plate for a few seconds I'd imagine.
Edited by mushboy (06/16/20 12:28 PM)
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Crackatoa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26748871 - 06/16/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I did the lighter test and went to town. Had to constantly remember hand placement
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Gan
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26748887 - 06/16/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushboy said: With a hood youd just need to expose a plate for a few seconds I'd imagine.
Yeah an hour would be overkill probably lol. It wouldn't really be practical cause I'm never gonna have a plate open for more than a few seconds.
And that's good to know Crack. That APE/PE you sent me is actually the first project I'm starting with the hood
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Caps McGee
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Dracultivation said: So another follow-up question for the hive mind (I know I seem to have a lot on here, but bear with me.) and I'm not really finding an answer searching through the different TEKS.
Current stage: Agar to Jar (Pint size jars)
When moving from agar to jars, how much do you need to put into a jar for good non-stalling growth? Do I slice my petri into a tic-tac-toe and put the entire dish in before I shake? Can I put just one 'square' from that pattern in my jars?
Somewhat related. How much should I save to transfer over once I clean my pertri dishes and make more agar?

Many of your questions will render faster results using the search function conveniently provided in the top right corner under the link search posts
I suggest you keep a master plate to take transfers from for expansion...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26748986 - 06/16/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gan said: First thing I'm gonna do with my flowhood when I build it is the blank petri test in front of the hood open for an hour or so. You think it's necessary to wait the week or so before using the hood to confirm the plate is clean? Or can you be pretty sure if it passes the lighter test and/or anemometer test all around the face of the filter then it's fine to use right away?
If you have the appropriate filter with an appropriately matched blower then you will already know that it's gtg. If you try the petri thing you'll be wasting a couple of weeks for no reason because your hood will work if the above conditions have been met.
Plates will remain clean in front of your hood so long as you don't introduce turbulence, that's why g2g, lc2g etc is possible. Keeping a plate open for an hour will just render you a clean plate.
Pretty sure we went over the matching process in my math thread, no need to worry.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26748996 - 06/16/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you just throw it together and are working with what's available to you, you can also check the flow with a lighter: mine will push a flame to 45° 12" from the face, and nearly 60° 3" away... theres a pretty good chance you're Gucci
If you're getting too much flow, dial it back using layered prefilter material
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Gan
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26749064 - 06/16/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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p9hu7 said: Pretty sure we went over the matching process in my math thread, no need to worry.
Yeah we did. Also talked about FP being shady with specs. I found out, once my filter arrived, that FP gets their HEPA's from HEPA Corporation (hepa.com) and they use their HEPA-SEP series. I'm sure if anyone needed more specific specs on FP filters they could call them instead of FP since FP is so oddly cryptic with their filters information... lol
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26749096 - 06/16/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've heard horror stories from fp cust service/policies.
Edited by mushboy (06/16/20 02:01 PM)
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Gan
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26749248 - 06/16/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I got my HEPA from them just cause it could be at my doorstep within a week from order but they literally wouldn't provide me with any information about the filters when I asked. But now that I know where they source their filters from, I can always just circumvent fp and get them, or information about them, directly from the source if I (or anyone that comes across this in the future) need to.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26751466 - 06/17/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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does anyone have a good method to break up bricks of coir before doing the bucket tek? i've been using a knife to split them apart but it's really difficult for me because i have an injured hand. i was looking at wood chipper shredders but the intake hole is too small. i've also tried not breaking them up at all but that doesn't work either for me especially with the bricks that are really dense.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
#26751483 - 06/17/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you using a chef's knife? Something with a sharp tip but a broad blade, can typically insert at 3rds (so at 2 points along the long side of the brick at equal distances) and go half way, give the blade a slight twist... Are you using boiling water? again, it's not entirely necessary... could just dump hot water on the full brick and crumble it once it cools/just prior to use, allow it to sit another 20-30 minutes for the moisture to even out... much if it will fall apart as it soaks up the water while cooling...
sucks about your hand
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
#26751493 - 06/17/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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FriedEgg said: does anyone have a good method to break up bricks of coir before doing the bucket tek? i've been using a knife to split them apart but it's really difficult for me because i have an injured hand. i was looking at wood chipper shredders but the intake hole is too small. i've also tried not breaking them up at all but that doesn't work either for me especially with the bricks that are really dense.
Plaster scraper and a hammer (optional), I flake it off rather than try to get a clean cut through. I'm doing it this way to get small chunks off a 10 lbs brick.
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FriedEgg



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#26751506 - 06/17/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea i use a chef's knife. i break up each brick into 3 or 4 pieces just like you say. i usually do 3 or 4 tubs at a time, so i put them all in one big tub, pour boiling water over it, then immediately use my cement mixer to stir it up for 30 seconds and close the lid right afterwards. i'm managing to get by i'm just wondering if there's an easier way. i'm always looking for an easier way to do anything.
a cement mixer sounds like overkill but i might have to get surgery on my hand so i don't have any other choice. also it's so much easier. you can even dump your grain in the same tub (after it cools down), mix it up with the mixer and then scoop everything out evenly into 3 or 4 tubs.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
#26751512 - 06/17/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know another guy who uses one similar... think his is a drywall mud mixer: little fanblade tines, same principle
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FriedEgg



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i like the hammer idea
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
#26751773 - 06/17/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have questions about field aged cow patties.
Looking for pictures to explain possibly but a simple explanation will work.
What I want to know is when is the cow patty too old?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24180231 This thread shows when they are prime but I am really curious when is it too old. Where I'm at is a newly active again pasture. All patties are fresh as hell or old ass white ones. Are the older ones not great to use anymore?
Edited by gizmo1 (06/17/20 02:05 PM)
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