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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26747737 - 06/15/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I just recently started to make my grain on the dry side I think it was you caps who recommended me to put a fan on top to dry em out . Before I would load em up pretty wet..

I’m bout to start another bulk grow with some properly prepared grain hopefully I see better results.

@sock I been running a few hundred shoeboxes for 3 crops now. It’s getting overwhelming . Tubs will atleast cut it down a lil
And I just spawned 30 iffy ass jars that had metabs in em looked like dragonballs lol . 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26747742 - 06/15/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Not to but in but

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23922599

I like the 1.5%




Yeah that's why I'm doing 1.5


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
    #26747744 - 06/15/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So another follow-up question for the hive mind (I know I seem to have a lot on here, but bear with me.) and I'm not really finding an answer searching through the different TEKS.

Current stage: Agar to Jar (Pint size jars)

When moving from agar to jars, how much do you need to put into a jar for good non-stalling growth? Do I slice my petri into a tic-tac-toe and put the entire dish in before I shake? Can I put just one 'square' from that pattern in my jars?

Somewhat related. How much should I save to transfer over once I clean my pertri dishes and make more agar?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dracultivation]
    #26747787 - 06/15/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The size or shape of agar wedge doesn't cause jars to stall ime, it's either contamination or environmental issues like too dry grain. Hope that helps


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja] * 1
    #26747846 - 06/15/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Left unwrapped in the open. Scary shit lmao.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26748007 - 06/16/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So to mist tubs and coco casing in shoeboxes (sff tek) I use regular chlorinated city water but I'm wondering after a while of sitting in a bottle maybe it loses some of that chlorine but even if it doesnt I'm wondering are there any products I can add to regular water before misting to make it cleaner that wont harm mycelium not that I'm having problems with it I just want to be as clean as possible


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spreadtheknowledge]
    #26748015 - 06/16/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So to mist tubs and coco casing in shoeboxes (sff tek) I use regular chlorinated city water but I'm wondering after a while of sitting in a bottle maybe it loses some of that chlorine but even if it doesnt I'm wondering are there any products I can add to regular water before misting to make it cleaner that wont harm mycelium not that I'm having problems with it I just want to be as clean as possible



just make sure to clean your spray bottle occasionally. i kept getting bacterial blotch and it wouldn't matter how much FAE i gave my tubs. the problem went away when i stopped misting my tubs. the real problem was that i never cleaned my spray bottle :facepalm: now i occasionally mist when needed but i make sure to clean my spray bottle with 20% bleach solution every 3 to 5 days. make sure to rinse out the bleach solution really well when you're done. you don't want to inadvertently spray bleach on your tubs. ever since i started using a clean spray bottle and reduced the misting i haven't had any blotch.

there is another strategy people suggest but i never had any luck with it... spraying your tubs with a 150 ppm chlorine solution. it made absolutely no difference for me, i still got blotch but here's the thread anyways:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23653379


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dracultivation]
    #26748016 - 06/16/20 12:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Dracultivation said:
So another follow-up question for the hive mind (I know I seem to have a lot on here, but bear with me.) and I'm not really finding an answer searching through the different TEKS.

Current stage: Agar to Jar (Pint size jars)

When moving from agar to jars, how much do you need to put into a jar for good non-stalling growth? Do I slice my petri into a tic-tac-toe and put the entire dish in before I shake? Can I put just one 'square' from that pattern in my jars?

Somewhat related. How much should I save to transfer over once I clean my pertri dishes and make more agar?






put at least a 1/4 plate into each jar and it should colonize pretty fast. i do the tic tac toe method too. more inoc points makes it colonize faster.

i don't understand your last question. how much what should you transfer over to where?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26748018 - 06/16/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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very..
I got enough jars to not want any more should last me a lifetime. Just hate the cleaning
Much rather deal with bags.

Loss wise... I can’t get tubs to work I tried a couple sets of 5 and all failed every time.. I feel my spawn ain’t the best and when I mix it gets worse . If I got a 5qt bag that colonized as 1 I could get sum tubs rollin



best figure out why your spawn ain't the best. are you starting with a clean culture on agar?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
    #26748045 - 06/16/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)


How’s my mycelium looking? Any feedback welcome please


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Becker1996]
    #26748047 - 06/16/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

looking good so far but crank up the FAE a lot more.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
    #26748048 - 06/16/20 01:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You think it looks too wet?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Becker1996]
    #26748063 - 06/16/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

yea in some places but it's not that bad. i mean you have a nice casing layer... that thing can handle a lot more FAE.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26748067 - 06/16/20 01:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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got enough jars to not want any more should last me a lifetime. Just hate the cleaning
Much rather deal with bags.





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26748220 - 06/16/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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MH5109 said:
Light malt extract.



Quote:

mushboy said:

Best=one that germinates spores. You can use anything really. Dog food. Brf. Potato, malt. All great choices.

I like brf because ... its brf:shrug: every noob buys way to much so it's a great way to use up old pf supplies.




I couldn't find malt and I couldn't find BRF. Was able to find rice malt so I guess that's splitting the difference lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: goonwolf]
    #26748284 - 06/16/20 05:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

From external link: "Rice malt syrup is commercially produced by the use of enzymes which break down the starches from the rice to produce a sugar liquid. The liquid is processed by filtering and boiling to produce a thick, sticky syrup with little or no nutritional value left. Rice malt syrup consists mainly of glucose, maltose (two glucose units) and maltotriose (three glucose unit."

No fats, no fibres, no proteins nor starch.. Intuitively this doesn't sound like an ideal choice for a nutrient base in agar. The way I have understood agar so far it should ideally contain a variety of nutrients or at least have some complex sugars and fats. Almost all sorts of mamal pet food works great, can't be hard to get a handful of that and you be good for a while guaranteed. Idk just chiming in :typing:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
    #26748300 - 06/16/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

you can also do what I often do, make "grain water" from breakfast wheat biscuits:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24296619

Considering writing up a tek for this since its more convenient than stocking up on malt, which I hate handling. Its also a good demonstration of just how versatile agar nutrients can be.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FriedEgg]
    #26748387 - 06/16/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Dracultivation said:
So another follow-up question for the hive mind (I know I seem to have a lot on here, but bear with me.) and I'm not really finding an answer searching through the different TEKS.

Current stage: Agar to Jar (Pint size jars)

When moving from agar to jars, how much do you need to put into a jar for good non-stalling growth? Do I slice my petri into a tic-tac-toe and put the entire dish in before I shake? Can I put just one 'square' from that pattern in my jars?

Somewhat related. How much should I save to transfer over once I clean my pertri dishes and make more agar?






put at least a 1/4 plate into each jar and it should colonize pretty fast. i do the tic tac toe method too. more inoc points makes it colonize faster.

i don't understand your last question. how much what should you transfer over to where?




Apologies. Agar-to-Agar transfers. Should I just save one of my dishes? I don't know how long they last.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dracultivation]
    #26748400 - 06/16/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Gizmo I hate that dark stuff.

When I get it it always makes these weird shapes with raised bumps in the mold.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Dracultivation]
    #26748530 - 06/16/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

FriedEgg said:
Quote:

Dracultivation said:
So another follow-up question for the hive mind (I know I seem to have a lot on here, but bear with me.) and I'm not really finding an answer searching through the different TEKS.

Current stage: Agar to Jar (Pint size jars)

When moving from agar to jars, how much do you need to put into a jar for good non-stalling growth? Do I slice my petri into a tic-tac-toe and put the entire dish in before I shake? Can I put just one 'square' from that pattern in my jars?

Somewhat related. How much should I save to transfer over once I clean my pertri dishes and make more agar?






put at least a 1/4 plate into each jar and it should colonize pretty fast. i do the tic tac toe method too. more inoc points makes it colonize faster.

i don't understand your last question. how much what should you transfer over to where?




Apologies. Agar-to-Agar transfers. Should I just save one of my dishes? I don't know how long they last.



Usually you'd take transfers of the fastest or best looking mycelium... after your transfers take hold/look clean, then do your slice and dice, then drop the rest onto grain.


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