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TedsDead


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Radsquatch]
#26695762 - 05/25/20 09:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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its gonna be really hard to tell if your spawn is clean with those green jars and it looks a bit bacterial to me. Id spawn not G2G. those dont look so wet that it would delay colonization times. more likely the bacteria
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26695777 - 05/25/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well
I have one jar of my three that is clear, and the colonization is pure white. Is there still a chance of bacterial contamination with all white growth?
Any other typical indicators of bacteria I should be looking for?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Radsquatch]
#26695797 - 05/25/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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the uncolonized wet looking spots on those top grains. and yes, white growth can still be bacterial.
dont toss it now but wait and see and if it persists I definitely wouldnt G2G
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26695829 - 05/25/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can I spawn a jar if I know its bacterial and still get it to colonize a sub and make fruits. For example to show you what I mean:
I know its bacterial but Is it still viable for me to mix in a small shoebox or would you just toss it out with the contams. Bacteria seems to be my most prominent contamination right now.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26695870 - 05/25/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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TedsDead said: the uncolonized wet looking spots on those top grains. and yes, white growth can still be bacterial.
dont toss it now but wait and see and if it persists I definitely wouldnt G2G
Thank you so much my dude.
Here are two pics of one of the other clear jars. I'm hoping this looks alright?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26695873 - 05/25/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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@ ovoidhunter: yes. stuff like that I usually spawn to an XL grow-bag so I can toss it if things go south.
@ radsquatch: I hate to sound confusing but those might be good or they might not be. thats the problem with oats and why I dont recommend them as a grain for newbs. they often look great but after a shake the myc seems to not want to recolonize the hull leaving wet-ish uncolonized spots that can be confused for bacteria. I see some of those wetspots on your jars which makes me suspect. you can always just G2G a little to 1 other jar to see if it was good or not and then spawn the rest to a shoebox or bag. I see some headspace hiding in those jars give em a shake and see how they recover
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter] 1
#26695882 - 05/25/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said: Can I spawn a jar if I know its bacterial and still get it to colonize a sub and make fruits. For example to show you what I mean:
I know its bacterial but Is it still viable for me to mix in a small shoebox or would you just toss it out with the contams. Bacteria seems to be my most prominent contamination right now.
I’ve spawned lots of jars like that no problem. Those are the ones where I sometimes get weird yellow knots and lots of mutants.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26695888 - 05/25/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ahh, I though I could use it no problem. Im waiting on my vermiculite to get here and I have to go get some horse poo from the pasture and I can spawn some more tubs. I'll isolate this one by itself in a shoebox.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Radsquatch]
#26695911 - 05/25/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Radsquatch said:
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TedsDead said: the uncolonized wet looking spots on those top grains. and yes, white growth can still be bacterial.
dont toss it now but wait and see and if it persists I definitely wouldnt G2G
Thank you so much my dude.
Here are two pics of one of the other clear jars. I'm hoping this looks alright?

I agree that there’s enough room to at least get some kind of shake going on.. that’s just a tad over how much I fill my jars
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Radsquatch]
#26695994 - 05/26/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said: Can I spawn a jar if I know its bacterial and still get it to colonize a sub and make fruits.
Yes you can.
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Radsquatch said: Thank you so much my dude.
Here are two pics of one of the other clear jars. I'm hoping this looks alright?

Shake those jars and they will finish quickly.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: poisoned]
#26696118 - 05/26/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has there been any sort of experiment/conclusion on the Soak vs Simmer for WBS debate recently?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ManifoldPrime] 1
#26696563 - 05/26/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I didn't know there was a debate on soak vs simmer wbs.
Everyone I know who does wbs does a simmer or is dumping in boiling water ala fooman's wbs tek.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
#26696571 - 05/26/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I don't think soaking does all that much except take more time.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
#26696572 - 05/26/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seems like wbs doesn’t mind what you do, from what I’ve seen anything that gets it wet works.
I always either cold soak it for 16-24 hours or pour boiling water in the bucket and let it sit a few hours.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26696579 - 05/26/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm digging the cold soak over night, bring to simmer method lately. I used to do the dump in boiling water method. I feel like the soak and simmer hydrates more.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
#26696630 - 05/26/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Crack get some potassium Metabisulfite and put a few tsp in your soak water and let to go for a week. Then strain and PC. That's a fun way to soak!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
#26696635 - 05/26/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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when I did wbs I would `add cold water and soak overnight. next day drain and load the grains a tad wet but5 not DrIPPIng. been ages tho
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26696643 - 05/26/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What are you using now days Ted? I am finishing up a 50lb bag of oats. But thinking about going to get some barley or Berries for the next run.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
#26696707 - 05/26/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
I did my first a2g five or six days ago. The second growth picture is today. The mycelium took over the agar and a few kernels but past that I'm not seeing much growth. Could it be my gas exchange? I took a PH2 screwdriver (large phillips head) with a rubber mallet to make my holes in the center of the jars and stuffed with polyfill, so roughly 1/4-inch. Did I overdo my oats? Too dry? Too wet?
My method for oats:
- 30m to get to boil - 40m boiling - drain in collander for 60m until grains barely leave water trace on paper towels when lightly squeezed - transfer to grain jars, sterilize using bod's method (vent without pc weight for 10m once the lid locks, then put on weight and once at 15-18psi pressure cook for 2 hours, followed by a slow release) - once jars cooled to room temp, I did the a2g with 1/3 of a plate wedge - here we are

And a group shot of some plates I'm growing using the boiled oat water from the above method (Golden Teacher):

edit: I should mention that there's no water pooling at the bottom nor water sticking grains to the jar walls other than the condensation above the grain
Edited by ArmchairCalvinist (05/26/20 10:45 AM)
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Rye... I love it!!! barly is like a cross between wheat and oats its got the hull of the oat and the germ of the wheat. rye is very forgiving. even when my timers been going off for 20 min and I check the pot and slightly burn the bottom grains   ... nothings ever overhydrated or burst and they dry really fast. wheat is super easy to get burst grains with
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