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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26692676 - 05/24/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

PAE is something caps brought up. I like it more than FAE.

Oviod: I mix my shoeboxes cause I ain't got no room for tubs. But I mix and out directly into fruiting. No side pins, and a nicer pinset and yes there is still uncolonized coir. But it seems to work better. So fresh knotting and pinning on a not fully colonized sub.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26692677 - 05/24/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I had a conversation last year with caps and we were speculating that it is possible for too much air to create more water droplets, because the mycelia is really active. My lids are super leaky from the factory.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26692678 - 05/24/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So i spawned my tub four days ago and have had it sealed off completely. Do you suggest i crack the lid? Im working with an unmodded tub and it still has a bit to colonize.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26692682 - 05/24/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So i spawned my tub four days ago and have had it sealed off completely. Do you suggest i crack the lid? Im working with an unmodded tub and it still has a bit to colonize.



Should be fine as long as you don't have a gasket lid.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26692692 - 05/24/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:cookiemonster:
I do have a gasket lid tho lol

Also sock I used to go straight into fruiting just because its alot easier. My next tub will definitely have some holes in it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26692698 - 05/24/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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So i spawned my tub four days ago and have had it sealed off completely. Do you suggest i crack the lid? Im working with an unmodded tub and it still has a bit to colonize.




What do you mean sealed off? Hopefully not in a bag.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26692700 - 05/24/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah just flip your lid. Do it now and no worries. If you have clean spawn and you are using coir or properly Pasteurize anything else..... Your better to get some air flow and light on those tubs.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26692702 - 05/24/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yea go ahead and crack it a little then you don't want to completely starve the tub of air. You also don't want a bunch of stale ass air chilling in there for a long ass time.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26692708 - 05/24/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)



Im just gonna crack the lid open for a little bit every day until its fully colonized and then make some proper fae holes. Thanks for the responses.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
    #26692739 - 05/24/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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PAE is something caps brought up. I like it more than FAE.







I mean, you can have lots of air exchange but if its stale air (lots of co2) it wont do you much good.  gotta be fresh:wink:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26692743 - 05/24/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

All air is fresh Ted. As long as it isn't  in a Martha! Haha joking.

Yeah either way I always thought FAE was fresh air exchange. Or air that hasn't been in the tub already.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26692744 - 05/24/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Would outside on the porch air be better than tiny closet air?lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 1
    #26692745 - 05/24/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes. Always yes!

But that being said, you don't suffocate in the closet when your in there so technically it is still fresh air exchange.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26692764 - 05/24/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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PAE is something caps brought up. I like it more than FAE.







I mean, you can have lots of air exchange but if its stale air (lots of co2) it wont do you much good.  gotta be fresh;)




Okay, this is interesting. I am choosing to have little room air movement. (no fan) Plenty of air in the huge room. But can a cracked lid let some components exchange more than others? I know wet air rises, so it must get up and out the crack. But is my CO2 stuck on the substrate surface?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26692765 - 05/24/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not really. While it's heavier than air, it gets disperesed around.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: poisoned]
    #26692773 - 05/24/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Okay, so what might be stale about my drying out, plenty of cracked lid situation.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26692780 - 05/24/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This is what I have been saying for a while. If you have warm moisture air in your tub at the surface and dry cool air outside the tub. The natural air currents will wick that moisture out of the tub through convection because of the heat build up in the tub. Moisture wicks out cool dry air moves in to replace it.

RH outside the tub is just as important and RH inside. I have gotten alot of flack for that idea.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26692781 - 05/24/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Your coir doesn't even seem that dry to me. Everything seems to work in that tub, so maybe it's too dry for you, not for your shrooms?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
    #26692783 - 05/24/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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This is what I have been saying for a while. If you have warm moisture air in your tub at the surface and dry cool air outside the tub. The natural air currents will wick that moisture out of the tub through convection because of the heat build up in the tub. Moisture wicks out cool dry air moves in to replace it.

RH outside the tub is just as important and RH inside. I have gotten alot of flack for that idea.




Sounds especially reasonable with these low profile tubs where the crack is inches from the room air. Also! no polyfill to buffer humidity.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
    #26692785 - 05/24/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Sockadin said:
This is what I have been saying for a while. If you have warm moisture air in your tub at the surface and dry cool air outside the tub. The natural air currents will wick that moisture out of the tub through convection because of the heat build up in the tub. Moisture wicks out cool dry air moves in to replace it.

RH outside the tub is just as important and RH inside. I have gotten alot of flack for that idea.




That's why you're supposed to tune your tubs. The idea is that they can work in all conditions, but you have to tune them to some degree.


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