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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26682309 - 05/20/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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eco earth varies greatly for me. Even different bricks sometimes have different absorption. So I weigh the bricks and put the minimal amount of water I know to work...if it's too dry I add water. If it's too wet I squeeze it out.

I've used eco earth on so many tubs now...and I just use hot water these days.

I always get a seed or two sprouting and occasionally I find rocks...and there is almost always some amount of sand

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I'm pretty sure it's not different absorption. What you are experiencing is two things. Eco earth has shit for quality control so who knows how much a brick actually weighs. It's never 650g. But you said you weigh the coir soooo... The 2nd thing you experience is the moisture thats already in the coir it varies which also effects weight.
Eco earth is pretty much the most commonly used coir but the quality control is lacking and quality is decreasing as time goes on. I don't remember it being this bad back im the day. I wish I only found a couple seeds, rocks and sand in mine. Today I pulled out a chunk of shredded plastic but this is nowhere near the worst I've found on a brick of coir. I'm still going to continue to use Eco earth because it's available but damn I hate it lmao.  I guess I'll just continue to complain about it. It's the only stuff I can get anywhere near local.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26682317 - 05/20/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You should buy some of those 5kg bricks online. They mostly seem to be of better quality than eco earth.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26682319 - 05/20/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I dunno, I find sometimes I get crumbly (powdery) bricks that seem to absorb less water than others. And the really tight compact bricks that don't crumble at all absorb more. I could be wrong but I think I remember someone else mentioning something similar (might have been bod). And I have been doing comparisons when weighing everything to the gram. That's one thing I miss verm for, it's really easy/convenient for adjusting overhydrated coir.
But it's so damn messy

Oh well I am using up the last of my eco earth and then I'm moving onto these 5kg blocks by beyond peat. They are $10 here. Best deal I could find. And supposedly it is much more consistent. I hope that is true.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26682388 - 05/20/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I know of the brick of which you speak.  they suck.  doesnt even seem like its coconut husks


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26682393 - 05/20/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I had a couple bricks that were literally half sand, they took about a third of the water that they should have. God damn eco earth, y'all fucking me over here.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26682424 - 05/20/20 01:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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poisoned said:
You should buy some of those 5kg bricks online. They mostly seem to be of better quality than eco earth.



Yea the big ass blocks are cool. I can't get them local anymore but when I could I loved it.
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I dunno, I find sometimes I get crumbly (powdery) bricks that seem to absorb less water than others. And the really tight compact bricks that don't crumble at all absorb more. I could be wrong but I think I remember someone else mentioning something similar (might have been bod). And I have been doing comparisons when weighing everything to the gram. That's one thing I miss verm for, it's really easy/convenient for adjusting overhydrated coir.
But it's so damn messy

Oh well I am using up the last of my eco earth and then I'm moving onto these 5kg blocks by beyond peat. They are $10 here. Best deal I could find. And supposedly it is much more consistent. I hope that is true.



Maybe. What but what if and this is a theory now but what if the powdery shit has more moisture in because it's harder to dry to begin with so absorbs less and the loose fluff is easier to dry so has less moisture to start.
Lmao idk. I was just assuming I read a label a while back that said moisture content can be + or - a certain percent. So I'm pretty sure base moisture does play a roll. How much I couldn't tell ya. Always pretty much assuming it's dry and dry is dry. Now I'm thinking that's not always the case.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26682451 - 05/20/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Who does bags in a SAB? I know some of you have those skills! :lol:




I do. I lay the bags on their side. My SAB can fit 2-3 bags in addition to my wire rack for agar dishes.

I wouldn't say I have "those skills" yet, as my contam rates are higher than I want, but that is mostly due to my fumbling with the scalpel. Just gonna keep on practicing!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26682539 - 05/20/20 04:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How would a semi retarded individual go about prepping these wheat wholes?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26682548 - 05/20/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Anyone ever try Cannacoco brand coir? I have had great results with it. During this whole Corona thing I had to try some different brands and found them all inferior to the Cannacoco. Maybe my recipe was off using the different brand but the results were night and day. My trays usually take 8-10 days to colonise, but with the other brands, it is at least 12 and the growth isn't nearly as nice.

I use a 950g brick unbroken in the bottom of a 5 gallon pail. Add 3500mL of boiling tap water with 120g of plaster of paris mixed in once boiling. Pour onto dry coir, place lid on pail and wait a few minutes. Add 500g of verm, replace lid and shake the hell out of it. Let is sit overnight and its perfect every time.

The trays made with the other coir brands are cycling through the fruiting tent right now and I'm getting contams here and there and rather random and slow growth. I have never had a contam on a tray from Cannacoco until after the second flush at the earliest.

Anyone else ever try this brand? I'm not sure how available it is in other countries.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: vinnie boombotz]
    #26682658 - 05/20/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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How would a semi retarded individual go about prepping these wheat wholes?





As a semi retarded individual myself, I can recommend that you boil them for about 25 minutes.  Start checking around 20 minutes and wait until the centers aren't white and a few are starting to crack their outer layer.  Then strain and dry.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickyswamps]
    #26682923 - 05/20/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hydro crunch 5k bricks are awesome.

I guess they’re sold out at the moment but it’s my favorite.

Way better quality than eco earth and 17 bucks for 11 pounds.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26683019 - 05/20/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I tried to make bags from oven bags back in 2008 and again in 2010 or some shit. Total waste of time. I guess maybe I just couldn't do it right but for the prices that real mycobags cost with proper filters, I would never ever do it again. I also had 100% failure rate :lol:

With real bags as long as I sterilize them properly and use clean inoculant, in front of my hood my contam rate is extremely low




Yeah, using oven bags for colonizing grains is a bad idea.. they’re too thin and you’ll get micro holes that you can’t see and it’ll ruin your batch.  Oven bags definitely have a place in my play book but i use them for clean work for like 15 mins of use... just asking to be disappointed if you plan on colonizing grains in them.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: vinnie boombotz] * 1
    #26683030 - 05/20/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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How would a semi retarded individual go about prepping these wheat wholes?





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26683269 - 05/20/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm thinking I wanna just throw these on some grain and see how they go



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ArmchairCalvinist] * 1
    #26683279 - 05/20/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good to me. How many transfers have you done?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26683311 - 05/20/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That's the third transfer-- the first plate looked like a chaotic disaster, the second plate was the ninja star I posted a few pages back, and now there's these ones :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ArmchairCalvinist] * 1
    #26683318 - 05/20/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You're good to go to grain. Just make sure to make a few more transfers to save your culture that way you dont gotta start from spores again. Goodluck:cheers:.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro] * 1
    #26683377 - 05/20/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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moving on from cyberbiotech GF's... (funny, I just assumed you all are women, using gender play to throw off the fuzz) -

...... Black mold in my utility sink, where I clean my tubs. Its old fiberglass... what's the best product to knock the mold down? I doubt I can irradiate it, but I wanna try...





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26683478 - 05/20/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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You're good to go to grain. Just make sure to make a few more transfers to save your culture that way you dont gotta start from spores again. Goodluck:cheers:.




Thank you! Gonna start making grain jars today :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26683572 - 05/20/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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