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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o] 1
#26638095 - 04/30/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, at that scale, you'd need to hire someone to manage and clean all that glass
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o] 1
#26638103 - 04/30/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Damn! U must have quite a bit of space for that many plates. Were u using most of them?
Minimal Waste FTW. Do it for Mother Earth.
Like i said, ive scaled back a lot, probably only 100ish a week now. I use most of them to get from one transfer to the next, if thats what you mean
Always looking for ways to be more efficient, but it would be expensive af to get that much glass, and a pita to sterilize. Im really into hunting special isolates, like that tamp and galindoi isolate i been working with. And that AA+ isolate in my sig. Usually takes a ton of work to find something special
I definitely have a lot of space. Could be way more efficient if i was just trying to crop out as much as possible but that aint my goal.
Re gizmo: Sounds like you need a FH bro!! Thats exactly what made me break down and build mine
Also part of why i built it w the frame i did. That nice breaze is awesome, and ac doesnt mess it up
Flowhood is the dream bro. It's a dream that I've kept alive for over 10 years. Cost being a issue but not as big an issue as where the hell do I keep it lmao. I keep holding out for when I get a new place but every time it's more of a downgrade on usable real estate. Its probably time I just make the move. Maybe if my Trump check ever comes I'll some of it towards a hood.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26638106 - 04/30/20 01:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should, before it gets hot
I built a badass sab first, inside a closet to restrict air currents. Built FH the same way, inside a closet, to make best use of space at the time
I can think of no better use of trump bux than a FH lol
I wish i had gone 24x48 instead of 24x24. I work w bags enough that it would be worth it
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o] 1
#26638238 - 04/30/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello one more time guys, you are helping me sooo much <3
I want to ask, my friend doesnt have a dehydrator and his mushies are 100% developed and until the next monday (3 and a half days) he won't be able to come to my house because covid.
Is it okay if he store it in the fridge? Should be the container have the lid crack or just normal?
Thanks <3
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roses4lg] 1
#26638332 - 04/30/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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They should be fine. I'd live the lid crack.
Otherwise, you could also freeze them, but then you need to immediately use them when taking them out.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roses4lg]
#26638361 - 04/30/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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roses4lg said: Is it okay if he store it in the fridge? Should be the container have the lid crack or just normal? Thanks <3
We've been keeping them inna paperbag, Walgreens!, in the fridge and they last a long time. Weeks! Can't say if potentcy drops, PESA seems plenty strong.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26638433 - 04/30/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe if my Trump check ever comes I'll some of it towards a hood.
That's the plan over here, at least put some of it away for one. Even just enough for the filter, I should be able to swing the rest from side cash, and that bitch is getting listed as a tax write off for sure!
If you need tools for the build and can't stretch it for new ones, I've always had luck at the flea market, even a jigsaw with a clamped down 2x4 can make a straight cut.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26638448 - 04/30/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just a quick question from a newbie: I've read that a larger SGFC is better (50 liters and above). So far so good, but with my calculations I'd have to use 20 liters of Perlit? Is this correct - it seems quite much for just a bottom layer?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fungi edimus]
#26638455 - 04/30/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can get away with less.
I'd try to use a HC first, because that tub will be useless for anything else after it's drilled. HC tub will be perfectly good as a monotub later on.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: poisoned] 1
#26638479 - 04/30/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The tighter the SGFC is to the required space for the number of cakes you intend to run is best: smaller spaces are easier to maintain conditions in... that said, SGFC is a fairly outdated approach, might consider a humidity chamber and grow mushrooms with far less maintenance: or my suggestion, crumble your cakes once consolidated and use them as spawn for bulk substrates isomg coconut coir as a water resivoir: MUCH more bang for your buck, MUCH less intensive care
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#26638510 - 04/30/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I feel you guys on the heat thing. I havenāt done shit with plates since last week when I did a SAB session and looked like Iād been swimming after.
Iām about to move my whole operation to the other side of the house where the wall doesnāt face the sun cuz itās already over 100 in the afternoon and the low last night was 78.
Now Iām gonna have to learn to grow with lights though.
I just came across a slightly contamed shoebox I forgot I moved to the garage last week, the mushrooms were kinda huge but built like straws. Like I could probably cut the cap and bottom of the stem off and itās so hollow I could put a pen inside.
So I guess thatās what super hot temps do.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26638527 - 04/30/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Many thanks for your constructive replies. I will keep an HC in mind, okay. I thought about going bulk first too, but isn't that way too much for my needs? The plan was to just use 10 cakes, so one spore syringe - I thought that would be sufficient with just the PF tek.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26638574 - 04/30/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oats Baby!
 Crackatoa's easy oats style!
Three 500 mL oat broth bottles for next agar runs. 10g Team Telephone Agar Agar!, 7.5g LME, 500mL 100% Oat broth!, 50 min PC because Primal's Experimental PE Grain Inoc>Agar Isolation Log (with pics and paragraphs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Fungi edimus]
#26638583 - 04/30/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fungi edimus said: Many thanks for your constructive replies. I will keep an HC in mind, okay. I thought about going bulk first too, but isn't that way too much for my needs? The plan was to just use 10 cakes, so one spore syringe - I thought that would be sufficient with just the PF tek.
Ten cakes is like two shoeboxes worth of spawn, id personally rather do that but Iām not into cakes.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26638605 - 04/30/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oats Baby!
 Crackatoa's easy oats style!
Three 500 mL oat broth bottles for next agar runs. 10g Team Telephone Agar Agar!, 7.5g LME, 500mL 100% Oat broth!, 50 min PC because Primal's Experimental PE Grain Inoc>Agar Isolation Log (with pics and paragraphs
Your using straight grain soak water? Lately I been having luck with one cube of concentrated grain soak water dissolved into 500ml water then however much malt extract. Honestly The amount of malt doesn't seem to matter too much I've been doing all the way down to 5 grams and up to 8 grams into 500ml and don't notice much difference. There probably is a difference I just haven't noticed it lol. Cultures love the mix of grain water and malt extract no doubt. Same when it came to LC. I tested 3 recipes(not extensively just one run), grain water and malt extract mix did the best.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26638611 - 04/30/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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How does it compare with LMEA mix
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ouuwee]
#26638644 - 04/30/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ouuwee said: How does it compare with LMEA mix
Try it out. Just add a little grain soak water to your usual LMEA recipe. if I had to guess I'd say I used maybe 25mL (concentrated)grain soak water with 475mL water. I'll tell you right now it's not going to be a big difference lmao.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26638646 - 04/30/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm gonna have to try the GW and LME agar next. I got my stuff ordered for my 24x12 flow box. šššš Can't wait.
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Oats Baby!
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Three 500 mL oat broth bottles for next agar runs. 10g Team Telephone Agar Agar!, 7.5g LME, 500mL 100% Oat broth!, 50 min PC because Primal's Experimental PE Grain Inoc>Agar Isolation Log (with pics and paragraphs
I love when people use my teks, I love it even more when they tell me it worked perfectly. Loving it pit.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ouuwee]
#26638647 - 04/30/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ouuwee said: How does it compare with LMEA mix
Sorry I'm just a noob, with one grow under his belt. I'm going 100% oat broth because I'm persuaded by Primal's experiment. Primal's Experimental PE Grain Inoc>Agar Isolation Log (with pics and paragraphs I really don't have enough experience to compare results.  And it's entirely possible that 100% is way too much. I can hear Primal now, "good grief another noobie going off in the wrong direction! "
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26638669 - 04/30/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ouuwee said: How does it compare with LMEA mix
Sorry I'm just a noob, with one grow under his belt. I'm going 100% oat broth because I'm persuaded by Primal's experiment. I really don't have enough experience to compare results.  And it's entirely possible that 100% is way too much. I can hear Primal now, "good grief another noobie going off in the wrong direction! " 
ah I haven't really gotten a chance to read all the way through that thread just thought he was using diluted grain soak water because of this part I read
I also see I've left out that I've changed my LME agar recipe now to use rye grain broth (1/2 cup simmered 1/2 hr in 1/2 liter water) instead of straight water. And that has really perked up the cultures I've put on it so far.
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