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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RyeHumor]
    #26618885 - 04/21/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ok, heres one I dont get... why's everyone keep their plates and jars in their GH's?  seems fairly common:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RyeHumor]
    #26618896 - 04/21/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I just bought one of those greenhouses, though its a smaller version 19"x23" shelves x 4.

I already have on of those temp/humidity controllers, figured I'd use one of the cold mist humidifiers that operate on a mechanical dial in order to use it properly with the controller.

I've read a bunch that the electronic humidity sensors don't do well for the level of humidity needed for this application though.

what are you're opinions?

I know right now its easy enough to turn the humidifier on and off since I'm stuck at home. But here's to hoping that won't always be the case.

I've also been debating not using the humidifier at all in favor of just making each of the levels a SGFC with shoeboxes inside them.

Is it better to just put the bulk into a larger tubs?



I've heard good things about the inkbird humidity controllers but never used one. I'm going to have everything on timers right now and just try to dial it in through trial and error since I'm home alot anyways. Just until I can level up.
I've heard of greenhouse being setup like a sgfc but never tried it myself.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26618898 - 04/21/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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ok, heres one I dont get... why's everyone keep their plates and jars in their GH's?  seems fairly common:shrug:



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26618904 - 04/21/20 10:27 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

which inkbird model are you using?  they work great.  just keep the controller out of the humid area and have just the sensors in there.  totally unnecessary for a martha-type GH IMO. just get a hygrometer and dial it in with a timer


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26618915 - 04/21/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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which inkbird model are you using?  they work great.  just keep the controller out of the humid area and have just the sensors in there.  totally unnecessary for a martha-type GH IMO. just get a hygrometer and dial it in with a timer



no inkbird yet I got a couple digital timers I'm going to use when I get mine set up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26618922 - 04/21/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I've heard good things about the inkbird humidity controllers but never used one. I'm going to have everything on timers right now and just try to dial it in through trial and error since I'm home alot anyways. Just until I can level up.
I've heard of greenhouse being setup like a sgfc but never tried it myself.




Yeah I went ahead an purchase the inkbird controller right away.

I'm decent with arduino and other automation systems that would be way overkill. But I decided it would be way easier to buy that guy off the shelf.

Also didn't have all the time at home as I do now.

I'm going to go ahead and rig up the inkbird to one of those Cranedrop humidifiers and see if I can get away without using a heater.

Temps generally stay between 45-75F lately so hopefully with the greenhouse it'll work out. If not I'll have to add a heater.

I'll let you know how the humidity sensor performs once I get it all together.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26618924 - 04/21/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

the 15 min on/off are great or a cycle timer if you really wanna ball out but totally not worth the price for the application IMO.  same with the inkbird.  that is for marthas at least.  just run a space heater in the room not in the GH


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26618933 - 04/21/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You guys ever put your grows in with your plants for co2 release?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26618937 - 04/21/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

in theory it works great!  in reality space is limited and its a clusterfuck to deal with IMO/E


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26618938 - 04/21/20 10:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Alright ted so, the first picture is literally just my spawn shelf. I was doing a lot of blow at the the time and having a really obsessive episode (I have sever ocd) and I used the painters plastic to keep in the heat generated from the spawn to keep everything at 70f during the winter. My basement got really cold this winter. If you were to seal the bottom of it and installed a heat lamp or something it could easily be turned into a incubator or exotic green house. The zipper was 11 bucks and came with 2 of them. Those wires youโ€™re seeing are actually just an extension chord to get power to my actual GH.

In my bigger try GH, I fitted it with a heat lamp/lava rock apparatus that kept the structure itself at 73f. Inside of it I also wired a fogger to a humidity controller with sensor that kept humidity around 60% so that I would never have to mist, and a really low power air purifier that ran 247 to provide air movement and protection against any 2micron+ Contaminant spores. I had a fan in there but if I ran it even at 1 it would dry my shit out.

Just look up โ€œwalk in green houseโ€ on amazon and you should find the exact model I have, 6 shelf โ€œwalk-inโ€ green house. If not Iโ€™ll link it in my next comment in this thread. I paid 45 for the one I have Iโ€™m pretty sure and itโ€™s great. Just fit a big black trash bag to the bottom and youโ€™ve got a climate controlled room for your tubs. Everyone will say that a greenhouse isnโ€™t necessary but where I live has a very varied climate and it was beneficial to me to be able to keep climates constant, just for surface condition consistencies-sake and yield.

If I were you, Iโ€™d go with the metal shelving+plastic unit and MAYBE a heat bulb and fogger addition, if working with cubes in a non-stable climate. If your trying to work with pans, then I would go with the standard 4 shelf Martha like JOC has and soup it up.

Also for humidity control I use the standard willhi that most people here use. Cheaper than inkbird and works just as well.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26618957 - 04/21/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lol, I have the same GH... maybe 2:shrug:  I wasnt meaning your pic specifically.  I just see that on here alot and it makes me wonder if people just do it to consolidate everything in one spot or what?  especially since your sealing everything up with your tubs kinda seems like a contam risk for the spawn and plates


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26619045 - 04/22/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Alright ted so, the first picture is literally just my spawn shelf. I was doing a lot of blow at the the time and having a really obsessive episode (I have sever ocd) and I used the painters plastic to keep in the heat generated from the spawn to keep everything at 70f during the winter. My basement got really cold this winter. If you were to seal the bottom of it and installed a heat lamp or something it could easily be turned into a incubator or exotic green house. The zipper was 11 bucks and came with 2 of them. Those wires youโ€™re seeing are actually just an extension chord to get power to my actual GH.

In my bigger try GH, I fitted it with a heat lamp/lava rock apparatus that kept the structure itself at 73f. Inside of it I also wired a fogger to a humidity controller with sensor that kept humidity around 60% so that I would never have to mist, and a really low power air purifier that ran 247 to provide air movement and protection against any 2micron+ Contaminant spores. I had a fan in there but if I ran it even at 1 it would dry my shit out.

Just look up โ€œwalk in green houseโ€ on amazon and you should find the exact model I have, 6 shelf โ€œwalk-inโ€ green house. If not Iโ€™ll link it in my next comment in this thread. I paid 45 for the one I have Iโ€™m pretty sure and itโ€™s great. Just fit a big black trash bag to the bottom and youโ€™ve got a climate controlled room for your tubs. Everyone will say that a greenhouse isnโ€™t necessary but where I live has a very varied climate and it was beneficial to me to be able to keep climates constant, just for surface condition consistencies-sake and yield.

If I were you, Iโ€™d go with the metal shelving+plastic unit and MAYBE a heat bulb and fogger addition, if working with cubes in a non-stable climate. If your trying to work with pans, then I would go with the standard 4 shelf Martha like JOC has and soup it up.

Also for humidity control I use the standard willhi that most people here use. Cheaper than inkbird and works just as well.



https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Outdoors-Plastic-Portable-House/dp/B086BYYY6B/ref=mp_s_a_1_26?dchild=1&keywords=walkin+greenhouse&qid=1587535785&sr=8-26
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26619062 - 04/22/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

looks about right.

I think the shelves come separate though.


I stand corrected, I read the description and it even comes with the shelves. That's awesome you should grab it if you have the right space for it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26619082 - 04/22/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Would you guys spawn this jar?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thrill]
    #26619094 - 04/22/20 01:15 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Is there any finesse when it comes to swabing PE in agar? I am not seeing any growth while other cubes are showing growth. Done it about 4 separate times 2 plates each and no growth no mold no nothin :sad:




Swabs can be fucky. Im having problems getting Averys Albino going on agar now. Used 3 swabs from 2 sources, swabbed up 8 or 10 plates worth, and not seeing any good growth. I started some Melmac from a swab and had some nice growth on the first plate.

Just keep trying. I usually just swipe the swab around. Ive had people say to try dropping the whole swab head on the plate, or try pulling a few strands of cotton off and putting it down on the plate, but I havent tried that yet.




I took parts of the swab itself and put it on plates and haven't seen anything. Guess I will just be swabbing like a mother fucker


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26619120 - 04/22/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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looks about right.

I think the shelves come separate though.


I stand corrected, I read the description and it even comes with the shelves. That's awesome you should grab it if you have the right space for it.



Man I'm thinking about it the price is right I don't have alot to invest right now but I figure the way shipping is going right now I'll have it within 2 weeks then I can take my time setting it up I'm straight not doing shit right now have a garden going some nice king and sporeless what I think are blues fruiting in the garden but it's about to get hot out so those won't be going much longer. I figure I can use it for staring plants for a little bit before I actually need it.

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Would you guys spawn this jar?






maybe once it colonizes. Is that recovering after a shake or?

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Is there any finesse when it comes to swabing PE in agar? I am not seeing any growth while other cubes are showing growth. Done it about 4 separate times 2 plates each and no growth no mold no nothin :sad:




Swabs can be fucky. Im having problems getting Averys Albino going on agar now. Used 3 swabs from 2 sources, swabbed up 8 or 10 plates worth, and not seeing any good growth. I started some Melmac from a swab and had some nice growth on the first plate.

Just keep trying. I usually just swipe the swab around. Ive had people say to try dropping the whole swab head on the plate, or try pulling a few strands of cotton off and putting it down on the plate, but I havent tried that yet.




I took parts of the swab itself and put it on plates and haven't seen anything. Guess I will just be swabbing like a mother fucker



This is the official procedure for swabs. Swipe on two plates, cut the tip off and leave on a 3rd plate. If it doesn't germ on the swiped that's normal. If it doesn't germ on the 3rd there were probably no spores there to begin with. If it germs on the 3rd but there is bacteria you are going to need to either transfer and then do hot pour or hot pour in the germ plate. If you hot pour on the germ plate you may have to pull the swab tip out first unless you have space to pour over the top without hitting the top of the dish. Swabs kinda fkin suck just the way it goes but there are ways to ensure good clean growth.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26619154 - 04/22/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah it's recovering after a shake. Day 5.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26619158 - 04/22/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Guys, a lot of teks and comments talk about how to avoid getting burst grains. But when you do get a third of grains burst: do you throw the whole thing or do you still use it? maybe with longer pc time to really kill any possible bacterial?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26619184 - 04/22/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Alright ted so, the first picture is literally just my spawn shelf. I was doing a lot of blow at the the time and having a really obsessive episode (I have sever ocd) and I used the painters plastic to keep in the heat generated from the spawn to keep everything at 70f during the winter. My basement got really cold this winter. If you were to seal the bottom of it and installed a heat lamp or something it could easily be turned into a incubator or exotic green house. The zipper was 11 bucks and came with 2 of them. Those wires youโ€™re seeing are actually just an extension chord to get power to my actual GH.

In my bigger try GH, I fitted it with a heat lamp/lava rock apparatus that kept the structure itself at 73f. Inside of it I also wired a fogger to a humidity controller with sensor that kept humidity around 60% so that I would never have to mist, and a really low power air purifier that ran 247 to provide air movement and protection against any 2micron+ Contaminant spores. I had a fan in there but if I ran it even at 1 it would dry my shit out.

Just look up โ€œwalk in green houseโ€ on amazon and you should find the exact model I have, 6 shelf โ€œwalk-inโ€ green house. If not Iโ€™ll link it in my next comment in this thread. I paid 45 for the one I have Iโ€™m pretty sure and itโ€™s great. Just fit a big black trash bag to the bottom and youโ€™ve got a climate controlled room for your tubs. Everyone will say that a greenhouse isnโ€™t necessary but where I live has a very varied climate and it was beneficial to me to be able to keep climates constant, just for surface condition consistencies-sake and yield.

If I were you, Iโ€™d go with the metal shelving+plastic unit and MAYBE a heat bulb and fogger addition, if working with cubes in a non-stable climate. If your trying to work with pans, then I would go with the standard 4 shelf Martha like JOC has and soup it up.

Also for humidity control I use the standard willhi that most people here use. Cheaper than inkbird and works just as well.



https://www.amazon.com/Greenhouse-Outdoors-Plastic-Portable-House/dp/B086BYYY6B/ref=mp_s_a_1_26?dchild=1&keywords=walkin+greenhouse&qid=1587535785&sr=8-26
Is this that shit right here? don't fuckin play with me. I'll order it right now.




you can  make a way nicer one that wont rust away in a yr out of pvc.  it will cost a bit more but I have a graveyard of those stupid martha GH's they dont last at all.  even the converted shelf GH is 100X nicer.  I casn barely believe that people put tubs on those racks withought the whole thing collapsing:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: redhandmat]
    #26619214 - 04/22/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Guys, a lot of teks and comments talk about how to avoid getting burst grains. But when you do get a third of grains burst: do you throw the whole thing or do you still use it? maybe with longer pc time to really kill any possible bacterial?




I just throw it. It will be slow to colonize, hard to distinguish contams and will look nasty even if it isn't. With longer PC time, you're going to produce even more mush.


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