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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RyeHumor] 1
#26601881 - 04/15/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: It keeps the shroom cap off the glass of the jar. The idea is mold spores and bacteria is on the edge of the mushroom cap. The metal washer makes the spore print cleaner at least conceptually.
Cool idea. I used to print inside of half pint jars. Here a pic of a old ass print I made.
 Also used to print inside of petris when I was being super lazy and didn't want to sterilize a jar.
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RyeHumor said: ok thanks for clarifying.
So would you still store it, or is this spore print method more for immediate use?
I feel like the more recent posts I've read kinda talk the practice of making spore syringes down in favor going straight to agar.
Is that the general consensus now or are there still mixed opinions among the experienced cultivators?
You can store them. I used to use them for making syringes to give away in the marketplace but you can also use a swab or inoculation loop to swipe spores to agar.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1] 1
#26601886 - 04/15/20 01:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ah thanks I get it now. I had the wrong idea before. I thought we were talking about putting the spore print on the washer. I'm tired 
So the spores are still going on the glass, you're just using the washer as a spacer OKAY haha.
That sounds like a great idea. I'll have to try that. Now I have a bunch of jars from PF but I'm planning on switching to bulk so they will be mostly unused.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26601903 - 04/15/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice gizmo1! Thats a huge cap u printed! Damn! 
And yes, the washer is a spacer to get a cleaner spore print by avoid direct contact between the glass of the jar and the shroom cap itself.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26602441 - 04/15/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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My cake started to grow mushroom (after full colonization) inside the 1/2 pin jar. I want to open it but should I still soak it in cool water anyway for birthing?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drem] 1
#26602454 - 04/15/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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drem said: My cake started to grow mushroom (after full colonization) inside the 1/2 pin jar. I want to open it but should I still soak it in cool water anyway for birthing?
i would birth it, dunk it, then roll it
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pinball24]
#26602496 - 04/15/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah , right - I'll leave those pins alone and do like planed
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26602501 - 04/15/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Nice gizmo1! Thats a huge cap u printed! Damn! 
And yes, the washer is a spacer to get a cleaner spore print by avoid direct contact between the glass of the jar and the shroom cap itself.
Thanks. I don't remember how I got that cap in and out of that jar it's a regular mouth half pint and that print is bigger than the opening on the jar lmao.
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#26602549 - 04/15/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does the cake look healthy? (I'm not sure about that white cloud on it)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: drem] 1
#26602821 - 04/15/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So, I use huge 13 gauge, heavy-gauge, dual opening large-bore Syringe needles to inject LI in bags. I've always used them within a SAB and I usually have great success.
I recently began to get some contams in my bags, and I'm questioning my needle technique. What should I be thinking when using such a huge needle?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26602881 - 04/15/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Lol I feel you man my stuffs crammed into a little room.

Some shelves would fix everything, thatβs the next project.
My dog likes to hang out in the cult room too


Got my AA 941 in yesterday...need to order a propane burner online though, I got a glass top stove (I knew this ahead of time, AA was on sale I couldn't resist)
For now just rnning the presto and mirro still. Will be a totally new experience being able to PC that much at once, holy shit!!!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#26602907 - 04/15/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love dogs with blue eyes.
Does yours lay in front of the heater and try to steal mushrooms??
I just got a portable propane burner myself, so nice.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26602951 - 04/15/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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With eco earth quality control these days, it seems a necessity to weigh your coir bricks

The other 2 bricks in this 3 pack were 700 grams each, so I guess it evens out almost..but, if you aren't weighing coir and wonder why you can never get the moisture content right by following recipes, it's probably because the bricks can be off by 200 grams
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26602983 - 04/15/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can't you also add water slowly mixing it up and checking for field capacity?
I guess the only complication is if you're pasteurizing.
Right now my challenge is that I'm having to harvest while my dehydrator is still on it's way.
Been making tea and throwing everything in the freezer every time my cakes go off.
Quick question about that though. I've just been twisting them off the cakes, I brush the verm off but there's still a bunch stuck in the base.
I plan on just blending it up anyhow when it's time so hopefully that won't matter.
Do you guys worry about removing every last bit of verm or just figure fuggit?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RyeHumor]
#26603013 - 04/15/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can, but when preparing batches for like 20 tubs at once it is nice to be able to put the precise amount of water each time
I don't use verm anymore but you can also just add extra verm to absorb water, all preference. I hate vermiculite it's messy af.
Also, you could cut the bases off or use a sharp knife to slice the outer layer off the bases, but I doubt eating small amounts of vermiculite is harmful.
I clean my mushrooms up really nice but it is more for bag appeal reasons
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26603019 - 04/15/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh yeah
You can store fruits for several days or more in the fridge until you get the dehydrator if it is gonna be there relatively soon. Like, I will harvest tubs over 4 or 5 days sometimes longer, store everything in the fridge (covered, but not completely air tight) and then when ready I put everything in dehydrator at once.
I don't like to run my dehydrator unless I can fill it so I do this often.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#26603026 - 04/15/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: With eco earth quality control these days, it seems a necessity to weigh your coir bricks

The other 2 bricks in this 3 pack were 700 grams each, so I guess it evens out almost..but, if you aren't weighing coir and wonder why you can never get the moisture content right by following recipes, it's probably because the bricks can be off by 200 grams
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26603030 - 04/15/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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haha got it, we're operating on very different scales so I can see how that would be frustrating.
Yeah I wont have much use for verm in the future, but what I forgot to mention in the previous post is that my current grow is PF cakes so they are cased in verm.
I'm just talking about the verm stuck to the base of the harvested fruit.
Also while I'm at it. I dunked my cakes after the last flush. Some of the pins were medium sized.
I wonder if I have to worry about them molding... some of them don't look so hot
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sh4d0ws said: You can, but when preparing batches for like 20 tubs at once it is nice to be able to put the precise amount of water each time
I don't use verm anymore but you can also just add extra verm to absorb water, all preference. I hate vermiculite it's messy af.
Also, you could cut the bases off or use a sharp knife to slice the outer layer off the bases, but I doubt eating small amounts of vermiculite is harmful.
I clean my mushrooms up really nice but it is more for bag appeal reasons
Yeah I was confused by my results with that.
My very first invitro fruit was put into the fridge overnight.
I took it out two days later to try and take some tissue/clone it and it was already goey and blue inside the stype.
Ended up just tossing it. I wonder if that's just normal and the fruit was still ok, but there's plenty more where that came from so I decided to toss it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RyeHumor]
#26603046 - 04/15/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gooey doesn't sound right, but invitro fruits can be pretty waterlogged/slimy so it's possible that caused it.
I have had fruits rot in the fridge from tubs but I think it took at least 10 days before they rotted. Some I forgot about in back of fridge for 2 weeks, they were fine still. So 1 day shouldn't be making em slimy inside. They may blue from the bruising but thats normal.
And yeah for PF cake grows definitely need verm and casing/rolling in verm is ideal too 
Plenty of people still like to use verm in their coir too, I am probably an outlier when it comes to that
Thanks for the link filthy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26603060 - 04/15/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Verm mostly comes in handy for casing situations if youβre doing tubs.
It is a pain in the ass to clean off stems sometimes though.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26603065 - 04/15/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I guess that's what I was asking about.
I left a little bit of verm on the stems when I stuck em in the freezer.
The stuff batch I made into tea I guess it doesn't matter since it was strained.
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