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tealseal
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26529914 - 03/11/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I’m just about to get into oysters myself. Kings are apparently easiest going from a cube setup. They can do alright on coir in a mono and don’t have sporeloads heavy enough to have a condition named after them like the other kinds.
hmm thats the first im hearing about that, i was looking at using a bucket with wood shavings. nows the time to start em in my area
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#26529970 - 03/11/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just spawned me some Kings into a shoebox today with supplemented sawdust basically masters mix. Already got some white oysters on similar a week in and colonising nicely. Got another jar and some left over coir so I’m gonna try a shoebox with that as well for shits an giggles
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
#26530048 - 03/11/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Smoothcat said: Just spawned me some Kings into a shoebox today with supplemented sawdust basically masters mix. Already got some white oysters on similar a week in and colonising nicely. Got another jar and some left over coir so I’m gonna try a shoebox with that as well for shits an giggles
I've got a couple monos with Kings on coir. Pinning like crazy. They seem to do good on coir.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#26530083 - 03/11/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Bro. Tell him you're growing mushrooms. You know.. the other 99.9% of them that aren't illegal. Most people wouldn't be thinking of that shit anyway.
hey Inocuole, havent seen u in 4 yrs lol u were giving me advice on my first grow, good to see ya again! i think ur right, plus gives me a reason to actually grow some edibles. wats funny is we share veggies from our garden how cool would it be to give him some edibles lol wouldnt think twice after that!
Damn straight. Once you blow him away with a little more cursory knowledge than he knows how to process, he'll stop asking questions because he'll know whatever you say is basically gonna be in another language to him. If he asks about psilocybes just deflect with something like "I wish, bro! Both times I tried them back in college I got so sick I never wanna see them again." Bam, done. You are now invisible.
i fucking love it!! its genius im gonna use that! now just gotta get my hands on some edibles, ive been reading all day on it, i think i wanna grow some king, blue and pearl oysters in buckets, figured grow em show em and go back to psychedelics
Funny, I had something similar when my old mate around the corner helped me build a shed right next to one of my skunk plants I boxed in with white opaque plastic. Every now and again you would get a wiff and I blamed it on the Polish 2 doors down.
Good to see you Inocuole, where you been bro?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26530092 - 03/11/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Getting my nuts kicked by life, you know. I'm better for it, but it's been a ride.
And yeah if it's weed smell you're trying to play coy about, you have to ask if they smell it first, before they ask you.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26530108 - 03/11/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Smoothcat said: Just spawned me some Kings into a shoebox today with supplemented sawdust basically masters mix. Already got some white oysters on similar a week in and colonising nicely. Got another jar and some left over coir so I’m gonna try a shoebox with that as well for shits an giggles
I've got a couple monos with Kings on coir. Pinning like crazy. They seem to do good on coir.
I’ve had better luck with Kings on coir than masters mix my first time.
 I don’t know what it is..
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LotLizard]
#26530115 - 03/12/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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kings on pasteruized coco ( or bucket tek ) ?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LotLizard]
#26530116 - 03/12/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Getting my nuts kicked by life, you know. I'm better for it, but it's been a ride.
And yeah if it's weed smell you're trying to play coy about, you have to ask if they smell it first, before they ask you.
You have to have the downs to appreciate the highs. Sound cheesy but its so true. Once you get through a shitty stage and you can breathe again its all a little bit sweeter.
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Smoothcat said: Just spawned me some Kings into a shoebox today with supplemented sawdust basically masters mix. Already got some white oysters on similar a week in and colonising nicely. Got another jar and some left over coir so I’m gonna try a shoebox with that as well for shits an giggles
I've got a couple monos with Kings on coir. Pinning like crazy. They seem to do good on coir.
I’ve had better luck with Kings on coir than masters mix my first time.
 I don’t know what it is..
I just dug out my kings culture and will be joining you in this shoebox thing. We should make a thread.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26530126 - 03/12/20 12:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was just pasteurizing in the bag. Add weighed out coir to the bag, add boiling water, zip tie the top and put them in a tote with some towels to keep the heat in a little overnight. The ones I’m growing now look like shit. Those are on masters mix though and is a little too wet. Still trying to figure out the right ratio. But damn these ones were skinny and not tall at all. I think it has something to do with letting the pins form properly in the bag before cutting it open. In the process of trying again so we’ll see.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dmppb]
#26530141 - 03/12/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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dmppb said: kings on pasteruized coco ( or bucket tek ) ?
I'm not sure what mine are on it's either bucket tekd or just hydrated with hot tap water. I was using both the day I spawed them.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26530473 - 03/12/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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question about cloning.
so today is harvest day, i have a nice cluster that isnt the biggest but grew that fastest and is aesthetically pleasing. i want to clone the biggest fruit and eventually slant it. well my slants dont get here for a week so, i assume u dont want to put clone tissue to a slant, u want to grow it out in a dish first then transfer clean myc to the slant, my question is wouldn't that be isolating the genetics even further and could be potentially slanting something that doesnt even fruit?
or would that occur after multiple transfers, remind u id be transferring a piece of tissue to a plate then 1 transfer to a slant. is that ok??
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#26530485 - 03/12/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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tealseal said: my question is wouldn't that be isolating the genetics even further and could be potentially slanting something that doesnt even fruit?
or would that occur after multiple transfers, remind u id be transferring a piece of tissue to a plate then 1 transfer to a slant. is that ok??
It will be fine, genetics get "randomized" a bit more if you would make a print from this particular cap/shroom. Cloning and transferring should keep it somehow close to the original source.
And yes - you want to clone to a plate, clean up and put it on a slant once you are happy. Quite often the first iteration of clone on agar can carry contaminants.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#26530495 - 03/12/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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tealseal said: question about cloning.
so today is harvest day, i have a nice cluster that isnt the biggest but grew that fastest and is aesthetically pleasing. i want to clone the biggest fruit and eventually slant it. well my slants dont get here for a week so, i assume u dont want to put clone tissue to a slant, u want to grow it out in a dish first then transfer clean myc to the slant, my question is wouldn't that be isolating the genetics even further and could be potentially slanting something that doesnt even fruit?
or would that occur after multiple transfers, remind u id be transferring a piece of tissue to a plate then 1 transfer to a slant. is that ok??
*Please someone more informed correct me if this is incorrect*
I believe when taking a clone like that, your not so much isolating, just cleaning. All of the growth is going to be the same genetics as the fruit the tissue sample came from. I don't you will get much difference in genetics from transferring a clone plate. I would maybe suggest more than 1 transfer just to make sure its clean, but I think you're good as far as the genetics are concerned.
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I had a huge difference in the same clone culture depending on how many transfers.
These are the same clone, only this one was a wedge right off the tissue plate

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Question about RW:
I have had this thought floating around in my head for a while and the POTD just sparked it again.
First: What is RW origin? I assumed CRS and some albino (presumably ape) but unsure.
Second: Before I ever got my hands on RW I had read on here the rusty spore gene wasnt stable and sometimes fruits went back to purple spores. A few minis after I read that, my CRS did exactly that.
Fast forward to today and I have a RW print I put to agar. I am not ungrateful in the least and will happily grow these guys out and munch on them like any other. I can't remember who it came from and I'm too lazy to dig through messages right now to find out. Anyway, back to the question. Can the rusty spore gene reappear if I just grow these out for a few generations?
If not, I have an APE MSS and a CRS print that still has the rusty spores. Would it be worth shot crossing the two? Or would it be better to just cross RW with CRS?
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Pasty made rw. I want to say Redboy and some leucistic, aa+ maybe. Could be way off.
There’s a long ass thread documenting the crossing and stabilization process that was pretty interesting.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26530649 - 03/12/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Pasty made rw. I want to say Redboy and some leucistic, aa+ maybe. Could be way off.
There’s a long ass thread documenting the crossing and stabilization process that was pretty interesting.
fuck I was way off.
I'll dig up the thread and have a look. I was thinking, many moons ago, of crossing AA+ and CRS to get essentially the same thing but once I heard RW was a thinking I stopped thinking about it. Thanks, A.k.a.. I'll do some diggin'
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It was months ago I came across it, I could be totally wrong on the varieties but it was really informative on the whole process.
I (think) I learned a lot from it, but it was pretty complex with all the generations and back crossing.
The most interesting thing for me was that the new traits don’t show until f2 for some reason.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26530690 - 03/12/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: It was months ago I came across it, I could be totally wrong on the varieties but it was really informative on the whole process.
I (think) I learned a lot from it, but it was pretty complex with all the generations and back crossing.
The most interesting thing for me was that the new traits don’t show until f2 for some reason.
Yeah, I had read that a few places. Makes me feel like I need a case of plates just for this process. I did just find one of Pasty's thread where he spawned a fucking BATHTUB!!!! got distracted reading through that. haha
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23957271/fpart/1/vc/1
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Have you seen the kiddie pool dubtub grow?
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