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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26522029 - 03/07/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah... all the pseudonymous proprietary labeling in the OMC is a little cringe-worthy. Credit where credit's due, of course. But... eh.
For the record, I've done the 'shake the fuck out of it' method with a normal 20g agar / 1L H2O and it colonizes as fast as LC's I've done.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
#26522108 - 03/07/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was trying SAGARI, but it's sooo wet, there was water running under the agar. I cut a bunch of squares and then the little bastids slid all over the place! So I made a shovel, haven't tried it yet.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26522115 - 03/07/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: Me and ted are both kinda oldschool (I know him IRL) we both use wedges to noc jars and use jars to noc more jars or bags. If you have a good schedule theres no need to cut corners or try to speed things up by using liquids or sagari. Just do the same shit every week and have backups in case something goes wrong. Tried and true methodologies > experimentation. Depends on what your end goal is but I always make sure to back up experiments with a control , IE A2G, that way I have options if it goes wrong, which it often does.
My goal is lots of mushrooms repeatably with minimal frustration. Thus my methodologies are a bit conservative compared to some I suppose.
I wish I knew someone from here IRL I dont even know why lmao. Also o wish I could meet Ted I'd like to party with that guy I get the feeling he's crazy as shit.Quote:
AyePlus said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22833314#22833314
Sounds like this. Caps wasn’t the originator of the idea just basically relabeled it (Like most his teks)
Almost all of the most popular teks aren't original. If there is a modern Tek you can usually track it down to a very old post that never took off. Or like Frank's and bods teks the how I get shit done and easy af series are almost completely unoriginal. They never claimed to be inventors of the ideas though. I'm not really sure about the sagari Tek it's been a while since I read it. I'm pretty sure you linked to a LI Tek. Sagari is different though it's literally just soft agar. Right?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#26522142 - 03/07/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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tealseal said:


hows this SB looking guys, first time running em and trying to dial em in so i can grow canopy's in monos like the pros lol
coming up on 2 weeks, light case at spawn, straight coir bucket tek, temps 68-72 light ambient 12 hrs
im at that point where all my projects are on grain and have 2 SB's going and everything feels as slow as molasses, im getting antsy.. do i need to crack the lid maybe speed things up? lids been latched since spawn
ok, ok i was a getting a little worried here, i unlatched the lid over night and woke up to this!!!
PINS


this is my first grow in about a year so i was a little inpatient lol now were rocking and rollin, hopefully more pop up but im fucking stoked. even did a little dance lol
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gizmo1



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#26522157 - 03/07/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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tealseal said:
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tealseal said:


hows this SB looking guys, first time running em and trying to dial em in so i can grow canopy's in monos like the pros lol
coming up on 2 weeks, light case at spawn, straight coir bucket tek, temps 68-72 light ambient 12 hrs
im at that point where all my projects are on grain and have 2 SB's going and everything feels as slow as molasses, im getting antsy.. do i need to crack the lid maybe speed things up? lids been latched since spawn
ok, ok i was a getting a little worried here, i unlatched the lid over night and woke up to this!!!
PINS


this is my first grow in about a year so i was a little inpatient lol now were rocking and rollin, hopefully more pop up but im fucking stoked. even did a little dance lol
Nice.
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Randalf the Grey
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
#26522170 - 03/07/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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tealseal said:
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tealseal said:


hows this SB looking guys, first time running em and trying to dial em in so i can grow canopy's in monos like the pros lol
coming up on 2 weeks, light case at spawn, straight coir bucket tek, temps 68-72 light ambient 12 hrs
im at that point where all my projects are on grain and have 2 SB's going and everything feels as slow as molasses, im getting antsy.. do i need to crack the lid maybe speed things up? lids been latched since spawn
ok, ok i was a getting a little worried here, i unlatched the lid over night and woke up to this!!!
PINS


this is my first grow in about a year so i was a little inpatient lol now were rocking and rollin, hopefully more pop up but im fucking stoked. even did a little dance lol
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tedoro
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I've been having my best colonization yet with thickly poured, soft agar plates blended to LI, injected to bags (1 plate to two, 1 gallon bags). Nearly a slurry of colonized agar. 7 days colonization.
-------------------- -------------------- Deep pour soft agar plates-->bags of WBS-->Low Profile Monos Clean spawn thread | Put a thermometer on your PC
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26522584 - 03/07/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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gizmo1 said: I wish I knew someone from here IRL I dont even know why lmao. Also o wish I could meet Ted I'd like to party with that guy I get the feeling he's crazy as shit.Quote:
AyePlus said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22833314#22833314
Sounds like this. Caps wasn’t the originator of the idea just basically relabeled it (Like most teks)
Almost all of the most popular teks aren't original. If there is a modern Tek you can usually track it down to a very old post that never took off. Or like Frank's and bods teks the how I get shit done and easy af series are almost completely unoriginal. They never claimed to be inventors of the ideas though. I'm not really sure about the sagari Tek it's been a while since I read it. I'm pretty sure you linked to a LI Tek. Sagari is different though it's literally just soft agar. Right?
There I edited it to be more fair,
But munch recommends using soft agar in the LI tek, he just adds water and agitates it before using it to inoculate in the blenderless LI tek
I dont like soft agar because I use kinda big wedges or pucks and soft agar is a bitch to manipulate with the scalpel, if you use regular strength and shake the shit out of it basically the same thing happens so
If it works for you it works, munch wrote some good shit tho and isnt around anymore so check his stuff out, its kinda funny how whoever is around writes their own versions of the same thing and they become popular. I’ve been using this site for a long fuckin time and seen lots of different “reigns” and a few attempted coups, one or two successful ones. Lol Bod basically just muscled his way in, changed his name to trusted cultivator and pissed a couple people off but now hes a mod. RR used to post quite a bit still when I was first reading cult, all started in mh+i for me tho
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gizmo1



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26522650 - 03/07/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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AyePlus said:
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gizmo1 said: I wish I knew someone from here IRL I dont even know why lmao. Also o wish I could meet Ted I'd like to party with that guy I get the feeling he's crazy as shit.Quote:
AyePlus said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22833314#22833314
Sounds like this. Caps wasn’t the originator of the idea just basically relabeled it (Like most teks)
Almost all of the most popular teks aren't original. If there is a modern Tek you can usually track it down to a very old post that never took off. Or like Frank's and bods teks the how I get shit done and easy af series are almost completely unoriginal. They never claimed to be inventors of the ideas though. I'm not really sure about the sagari Tek it's been a while since I read it. I'm pretty sure you linked to a LI Tek. Sagari is different though it's literally just soft agar. Right?
There I edited it to be more fair,
But munch recommends using soft agar in the LI tek, he just adds water and agitates it before using it to inoculate in the blenderless LI tek
I dont like soft agar because I use kinda big wedges or pucks and soft agar is a bitch to manipulate with the scalpel, if you use regular strength and shake the shit out of it basically the same thing happens so
If it works for you it works, munch wrote some good shit tho and isnt around anymore so check his stuff out, its kinda funny how whoever is around writes their own versions of the same thing and they become popular. I’ve been using this site for a long fuckin time and seen lots of different “reigns” and a few attempted coups, one or two successful ones. Lol Bod basically just muscled his way in, changed his name to trusted cultivator and pissed a couple people off but now hes a mod. RR used to post quite a bit still when I was first reading cult, all started in mh+i for me tho
Yea I was around when most of those threads were posted. I've been here a little longer than you(I realize this sound braggadocios but not my intentions in the least) and was also here when RR was active. Just recently(couple years back) took a little hiatus but I'm back now ready to work.
I don't mind at all when someone revamps a old Tek it helps spread it to more people and let everyone know it's not outdated. Stealing someone else's idea as your own on the other hand that's never ok.
If you were to check out the OS mini mono write-up in my sig you would see I acknowledge that none of it was my original ideas and I even give credit for where I got alot of the ideas from. 
I haven't really seen any mini mono write-ups and even less modern ones. I think the most recent one that I've read was Pasty's. Which is a good read. Thought maybe I'd try and bring them back since everyone is using shoeboxes, but I never see minis. Just gotta finish it before I even think about having it moved and even then idk I might just let it rest where it is I don't wanna be a poser.
Interesting shit though I've been thinking alot about this recently actually how repetitive alot of this shit is and no one talks about it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26522683 - 03/07/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I try to refrain talking about it too much... don't have the clout to go swinging my balls around like that. But, for fucks sake, it's all just rehash and refinement. The only thing that changes is using something that's more accessible to a larger audience. Don't get me wrong, from time to time innovations do arise and people are seriously creative with meeting the necessary ends. But, like anything else, it's mostly just practice and learning to read and adapt to situations that make someone successful and proficient.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26522699 - 03/07/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Write a guide for minis
Maybe your style will connect with lots of people and you'll have a thread with 600pages..
Like music, most teks are rehashes/rip offs but once in awhile someone does it right and everyone takes note
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26522712 - 03/07/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Write a guide for minis
Maybe your style will connect with lots of people and you'll have a thread with 600pages..
Like music, most teks are rehashes/rip offs but once in awhile someone does it right and everyone takes note;)
Already did linked in the sig. Not done yet though that's why I haven't asked for it to be moved.
Y'all ain't ready for my next tek though. I make a killer mushy frozen cherry limeade. Imma write that shit up once I make another batch and can snap a couple shots lmao.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
#26522716 - 03/07/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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footpath said: I try to refrain talking about it too much... don't have the clout to go swinging my balls around like that. But, for fucks sake, it's all just rehash and refinement. The only thing that changes is using something that's more accessible to a larger audience. Don't get me wrong, from time to time innovations do arise and people are seriously creative with meeting the necessary ends. But, like anything else, it's mostly just practice and learning to read and adapt to situations that make someone successful and proficient.
Let yo nuts hang. Lmao. Clout maybe not but you got my respect. I see you giving solid advice and you seem to listen and keep the ego in check when someone offers opposing views.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26522722 - 03/07/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll see your cherry limeade and add...
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footpath said: I do a HWE then freeze into ice cubes:
 Each one is 1.5g (actually 15 wet grams) thereabouts.
~1/3 can of coconut milk (Native Forest has Lots of the cream/fat on top.. makes for a wonderfully frothy drink) ~1/2C of frozen pineapple ~half a banana ~handful of ice cubes (including however many cube cubes you're feeling) ~A shot of rum (takes some of the edge off without interfering with the trip... sometimes I'll do two if I'm feeling spicy)
Blend it. Pour it into your favorite glass. Enjoy. Keep enjoying. It's the god damn best.
Edited by footpath (03/07/20 07:13 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
#26522760 - 03/07/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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footpath said:

I'll see your cherry limeade and add...
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footpath said: I do a HWE then freeze into ice cubes:
 Each one is 1.5g (actually 15 wet grams) thereabouts.
~1/3 can of coconut milk (Native Forest has Lots of the cream/fat on top.. makes for a wonderfully frothy drink) ~1/2C of frozen pineapple ~half a banana ~handful of ice cubes (including however many cube cubes you're feeling) ~A shot of rum (takes some of the edge off without interfering with the trip... sometimes I'll do two if I'm feeling spicy)
Blend it. Pour it into your favorite glass. Enjoy. Keep enjoying. It's the god damn best.
Wow that sounds delicious, thanks for the excellent idea
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
#26522780 - 03/07/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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footpath said:

I'll see your cherry limeade and add...
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footpath said: I do a HWE then freeze into ice cubes:
 Each one is 1.5g (actually 15 wet grams) thereabouts.
~1/3 can of coconut milk (Native Forest has Lots of the cream/fat on top.. makes for a wonderfully frothy drink) ~1/2C of frozen pineapple ~half a banana ~handful of ice cubes (including however many cube cubes you're feeling) ~A shot of rum (takes some of the edge off without interfering with the trip... sometimes I'll do two if I'm feeling spicy)
Blend it. Pour it into your favorite glass. Enjoy. Keep enjoying. It's the god damn best.
You mind if I steal this for the write-up? I want to do a collective thing where I put a bunch of different ways of preparing and consuming. I wanted to add a section about making Honey Chocolate and trailmix Gummies Different beverages Etc.
I don't want to take credit just add it to the thread. Or if you wanted to do a write-up yourself I could just link it. I'll never be able to find this post down the road to link it though lmao.
I also still want to do a collective thread about doing grows using only old or outdated methods. I discussed it once a while back with someone a female member I don't remember for sure who it was I want to say shaper.
I have a lot of ideas for threads id like to see but hardly any motivation to post. I always have a lot going on IRL and my mushys get a little of what's left. The rest goes to, well... Rest. What little of it I can get lmao.
Edited by gizmo1 (03/07/20 07:47 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26522825 - 03/07/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Write a guide for minis
Maybe your style will connect with lots of people and you'll have a thread with 600pages..
Like music, most teks are rehashes/rip offs but once in awhile someone does it right and everyone takes note;)
Solid advice my friend

I wrote a gummy tek. Jst your basic amounts and how to avoid my fuck ups. Didnt explain everything in great detail cuz i figure people make shit they own...got crapped on for it.
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footpath
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26522915 - 03/07/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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gizmo1 said: You mind if I steal this for the write-up? I want to do a collective thing where I put a bunch of different ways of preparing and consuming.
Please do. Recipes kinda get thrown around left and right in TPE... rarely anything as organized as the mushcult teks, though.
I'll write something up for an easy link, too. May as well lay out the ice cube2 process while I'm at it.
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Randalf the Grey said:
Edit: no worries Ted, same. Just curious, why don't you like the soft agar approach? Asking purely for insight, I haven't used sagari, lc or li yet.
I don't like it because its a pain to work with all around and my culture seem to grow better on more of a firm media(not too stiff tho)... and some people, the ones who swear by it like to use it to mail gourmet cultures to you with and it arrives as a puddle of goo leaking out the sides of the dish and creates contam city
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26522977 - 03/07/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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my dudes , i need your help regarding my grain prep and PC use ; so i'm trying to step up my game and get everything looking as it should , started out with my plates which you can see below , i think they're ready, don' you ?
so grain prep comes , i use wheat grains no verm no coffee just a teaspoon of gypsum , soak it overnight , boil it 20 minutes drain it then put in a towel with a fan until it's perfctly dry and paper test it , pics below too , i thought it was perfect
but then , at 1h:50m into the cycle i noticed the pressure drop from 17 to 15 barely maintaining , i realized when i opened the pc that the water an out and it burned / overcooked my grains , making them all wet on one side and dry on the other , and clumping a lot ; in other words , fucked it
why the fuck is my water running out before it finishes the cycle ? ( i just put new gaskets in my prestos ) and haven't tried the 2 hours cycle in the all american , i use 3 and 1/2 quart jars full of water
theories i have :
i have super powerful burners and it evaporates too much water during the 10 minute vent ( it can get to 6 psi's at the end of the 10 min vent without the weight ) so i tried to never get to high during the cycle , didn't make it either
knocked up the ones that looked semi ok 
what do i do ?
pics :



Edited by dmppb (03/07/20 10:25 PM)
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