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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26517415 - 03/04/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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All right, hate to change the subject from pests. My wife and I were having a high discussion on something. Has ANYBODY ever tried Mush Coffee. Grind up your dose, mix it with the coffee in the coffee pot???? would it work or would it have to be steeped for a longer period of time to release the chemicals?? AND has anybody mixed with coffee?? I wanted to ask first, I LOVE my coffee and don't want to ruin the taste of coffee for myself.




Coffee kratom and mushrooms is one of my favorites. I get super artistic and creative. 4 stars. Would recommend.


Never did it in coffee maker though,just added to coffee cup and allowed to steep. I'll drink 2 cups with the same mushrooms in it, then either toss or swallow the mushroom bits at the end.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26517543 - 03/04/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I would boil the water and mush for 15 minutes then strain into a French press and use as normal to brew the coffee.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26517587 - 03/04/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Eeek.
I know the feeling man.
I have sewer flies. Yup thats right not fruit flies sewer flies.
I keep them under control by pouring boiling water in all the drains monthly and bleach regularly. I also have sticky traps all over the damn house. About 2 per room. 1 per closet and 2 per bathroom.
I cant fucking wait to get out of this place.
They get fucking bad in the summer. I didnt even think about it but wont be any hydrated coir sitting around in the open this summer thats for damn sure. Damn pests. :facepalm:




If you have flies coming in through the pipes, each drain needs a p-trap, it's cheap and simple to install.



They all have the s traps on them sewer flies dont actually come out of the sewer they live on organic matter in the drains and under tiles and whatnot. Find them alot around leaks and rotted floors. Alot of times if you have them the only way to get rid of them is a little demolition and some fresh construction lol. They look just like fruit flies and im sure are very closely related.
If this was my house i would've done tore the entire bathroom down and re built and plumbed everything. Its cool though im on my way out anyways its been time to leave this shitty rental.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
    #26517598 - 03/04/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Holy mackerel! Gizmo! Where do you live? That sounds beyond third world!



Lmao I've got some horror stories bro. I moved out of the hood into this "middle class" place. Fucking complete downgrade. I won't get into it though now though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26517607 - 03/04/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

G'dam.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26517608 - 03/04/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

so i have been doing no pours from the start and soon will be transitioning to petri's soon.

2 questions, how long to pc the media bottle? im seeing 25 mins and 45 mins..

same with no pours im seeing some say 25 mins some say 45 mins.

personally i have never went lower than 45 mins ever, but i mean if i can go to sleep 20 mins sooner id like to have that option lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
    #26517617 - 03/04/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Same with EcoEarth lately. This whole case I've been working through maxes out at 2.25 quarts H2O for me.

You get any sleep yet there, Randalf? Burnin' that candle...




Had a bit of a nap, but clearly not enough.
Sliced my knuckle open changing scalpel blades so had to take a break for a while.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
    #26517640 - 03/04/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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so i have been doing no pours from the start and soon will be transitioning to petri's soon.

2 questions, how long to pc the media bottle? im seeing 25 mins and 45 mins..

same with no pours im seeing some say 25 mins some say 45 mins.

personally i have never went lower than 45 mins ever, but i mean if i can go to sleep 20 mins sooner id like to have that option lol




Ive gone as low as 15 with no problems. No lie. I wouldnt try that with grain soak agar though.
Also you need to filter out all sediment. If its filtered i think 25 minutes is reasonable but if you dont feel safe going 25 definitely go more.
Maybe dont pour more than a couple sleeves until you know 25min will work at your elevation.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26517646 - 03/04/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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so i have been doing no pours from the start and soon will be transitioning to petri's soon.

2 questions, how long to pc the media bottle? im seeing 25 mins and 45 mins..

same with no pours im seeing some say 25 mins some say 45 mins.

personally i have never went lower than 45 mins ever, but i mean if i can go to sleep 20 mins sooner id like to have that option lol




Ive gone as low as 15 with no problems. No lie. I wouldnt try that with grain soak agar though.
Also you need to filter out all sediment. If its filtered i think 25 minutes is reasonable but if you dont feel safe going 25 definitely go more.
Maybe dont pour more than a couple sleeves until you know 25min will work at your elevation.





funny that u mentioned that cause i was thinking about doing some grain soak agar lol and for that i would deff go the full 45 mins

as for the rest its prolly just preference.
i do like no pours though, they got me through the learning phase for sure, my buddy gave me some of his clean petris and transferring from them felt weird, im so use to the depth of the min rounds


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
    #26517654 - 03/04/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Lmao I know the feeling I've used and like both and switching from one to the other can be weird.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26517806 - 03/05/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Idk which specific kind of media you were talking about gizmo but with most of them you don’t need to filter out sediment. Also with MEA you won’t get any sediment as long as you don’t carmelize anything. Admittedly it takes a bit of practice to get the correct process down without carmelizing.

As long as you boil the water, then throw in the agar, and turn the heat real low for like 3 min you shouldn’t get any carmelization. Agar doesn’t need to boil very long at all.

Lastly I PC my agar for 20m flat but it’s MEA. As gizmo said I’d go up to but not over 1hr for grain soak. Too long in the PC and you can carmalize it bad


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26518014 - 03/05/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Lastly I PC my agar for 20m flat but it’s MEA. As gizmo said I’d go up to but not over 1hr for grain soak. Too long in the PC and you can carmalize it bad




What does "grain soak" mean? I used Oat broth at 50%,
but I'm gonna skip it till I stop getting some plates with contam.

For now it'll be sticking with 10g Telephone agar, 7.5g Briess Pilsner LME, 500mL H2Ooooo  LOL!
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Pilsner is a type of pale lager. It takes its name from the Czech city of Pilsen, where it was first produced in 1842 by Bavarian brewer Josef Groll. The world's first blond lager, the original Pilsner Urquell, is still produced there today. Wikipedia




For consistency  :laugh2:

grain soak = Oat broth
Oat broth = grain soak

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
    #26518029 - 03/05/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You won't be caramelizing anything at the temps/pressures we use.

edit: I should say you won't be caramelizing any of the things we use for agar because they are mostly comprised of maltose, which has a caramelizing temperature of 360ºF.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26518337 - 03/05/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Idk which specific kind of media you were talking about gizmo but with most of them you don’t need to filter out sediment. Also with MEA you won’t get any sediment as long as you don’t carmelize anything. Admittedly it takes a bit of practice to get the correct process down without carmelizing.

As long as you boil the water, then throw in the agar, and turn the heat real low for like 3 min you shouldn’t get any carmelization. Agar doesn’t need to boil very long at all.

Lastly I PC my agar for 20m flat but it’s MEA. As gizmo said I’d go up to but not over 1hr for grain soak. Too long in the PC and you can carmalize it bad



Any kind if going the bare minimum on time you need to filter any sediment as sediment will take longer to sterilize than just liquid.

By grain soak. I mean grain soak water. Whichever grain that may be even oats. Yuck. Lmao.

And footpath is right caramelization doesnt happen at the temps we use but if using high heat it can do something to the proteins in malt extract darkening them which is visually the same thing. So until someone finds out what the actual process that we are seeing here is called and corrects me I may accidentally refer to it as carmelization. It wasnt me this time but I have been guilty of it in the past lol.

Here's a question for you though footpath since you corrected jbgtaa would you like to provide a alternative word for it? What would you suggest we refer to it as darkening? Protein stimulation? Proton capacitation? Lmao. Protein darkening I guess would be a logical name for it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26518361 - 03/05/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Milliard reaction- a chemical reaction between amino acids and reducing sugars that gives browned food its distinctive flavor.

It's what makes steaks sear. Only happens in the presence of protein.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26518373 - 03/05/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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gizmo said: Whichever grain that may be even oats. Yuck. Lmao.



Bwaha, I love it! :laugh2:

So Teem Telephone took a hit today!
I  got a txt msg from USPS that my package was picked up by customer at the Post Office.
So I drove down and the Postmaster checked, pick up time, cameras, which agent gave it out.
I'm waiting for a call hopefully they get my packages back.

So tracking and getting txts really paid off this time.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26518378 - 03/05/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

How’s this jar look to y’all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Culliganman360]
    #26518395 - 03/05/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Kinda fuzzy  :horrified:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26518417 - 03/05/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Here's a question for you though footpath since you corrected jbgtaa would you like to provide a alternative word for it? What would you suggest we refer to it as darkening? Protein stimulation? Proton capacitation? Lmao. Protein darkening I guess would be a logical name for it.




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Milliard reaction- a chemical reaction between amino acids and reducing sugars that gives browned food its distinctive flavor.

It's what makes steaks sear. Only happens in the presence of protein.

Pronounced 'my ard' reaction




Randalf got that shit.

Maybe just sear? Singe? Scorch? Scooch? Sconch?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the concern with caramelization is that it would cause a decomposition of available sugars, not a change in the superficial characteristics?
Which would pose a concern, whereas the Milliard reaction, or 'sconching', is strictly superficial for our purposes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
    #26518448 - 03/05/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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How’s this jar look to y’all.




Looks ok to me but I still post my own spawn to make sure its ok lmao.

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gizmo1 said:

Here's a question for you though footpath since you corrected jbgtaa would you like to provide a alternative word for it? What would you suggest we refer to it as darkening? Protein stimulation? Proton capacitation? Lmao. Protein darkening I guess would be a logical name for it.




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Milliard reaction- a chemical reaction between amino acids and reducing sugars that gives browned food its distinctive flavor.

It's what makes steaks sear. Only happens in the presence of protein.

Pronounced 'my ard' reaction




Randalf got that shit.

Maybe just sear? Singe? Scorch? Scooch? Sconch?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the concern with caramelization is that it would cause a decomposition of available sugars, not a change in the superficial characteristics?
Which would pose a concern, whereas the Milliard reaction, or 'sconching', is strictly superficial for our purposes.



Who knows. What we always referred to as carmelization was only milliard reaction. I know I dont use brown sugar rub on ribs from the start because it carmelizes and tastes like shit.

It is just superficial though yes.

Sounds like semantics.

Im going with sconch I like the way it sounds more then billiard reaction but less than proton capacitation. Yadadamean?


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