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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26490491 - 02/17/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Wby even risk it by starting with a grain that has a higher spore load when
you can use a better grain thats way easier to prep and costs damn near the same?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: spiritlands]
    #26490568 - 02/17/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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spiritlands said:
I wanna run the extraction/conversion on some pans but I gotta stop eating them first.



They are tasty aren't they


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #26490586 - 02/17/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, I'm sure lots of people would appreciate that

I got my bacticinerator for 38$ btw :cool:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26490893 - 02/17/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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GypsyCurse said:

Dnt buy organic either. They dump a bunch of shit on it.



:whathesaid:

yeah, not doing that again.  the organic wheat I got had such a higher starch content that It was really hard to prep without it being a bit tacky

seed not feed is a good rule for quality control


C10, did you ever post a link to that?      I hate sittting down to an agar sesh just to find out I need to run to the store for more gas:facepalm:

my tank felt a bit light this morning


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26490934 - 02/17/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I got it off Ebay. There are a few on there right now around 100, one identical to mine

Soooo worth it, it's nice to be able to sterilize scalpels hands free


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26491277 - 02/18/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

:amanita2:       

Well green stuff 1 - white stuff 3. Not done yet!
I still got practically 50 lbs left of Race Horse Oats, ain't givin up yet!
Plus just got some Diatomaceous for the oat bag. Dang how do you mix 50 lbs.

Would someone please specify what Wheat product they're talking about.
No hurry though, prolly won't get thru the Oats for a year. Butt! If I never get past the jars...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit] * 1
    #26491290 - 02/18/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

All of those jars look extra fucky. Bacteria for sure.

As for wheat, just go to a feed store and ask for whole wheat and check out my
prep tek for info on easy prep


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26491344 - 02/18/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
All of those jars look extra fucky. Bacteria for sure.

As for wheat, just go to a feed store and ask for whole wheat and check out my
prep tek for info on easy prep




Thankyou!
All of them?? Dang, well:
  1. It was just T1
  2. The Oats were dryer, but not 24 hr dry.

Guess I need to learn the different types of white stuff...

I can hear GypsyCurse  now!
Quote:

GypsyCurse said:
Oats blow goats
:feelsgoatman:





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit] * 1
    #26491510 - 02/18/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Inthepit said:
Quote:

natedawgnow said:
All of those jars look extra fucky. Bacteria for sure.

As for wheat, just go to a feed store and ask for whole wheat and check out my
prep tek for info on easy prep




Thankyou!
All of them?? Dang, well:
  1. It was just T1
  2. The Oats were dryer, but not 24 hr dry.

Guess I need to learn the different types of white stuff...




I've been doing this a long time and I'm only now becoming a pessimist regarding my spawn and agar. I started out "its white, its good" that got me no where. I hear people saying that long, feathery growth can be indicative of bacteria. Your jars are very feathery. (I have had feathery spawn fruit well tho)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26491523 - 02/18/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thankyou, gonna write that down!
feathery growth can be indicative of bacteria.   :takingnotes:

This is the T1:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
    #26491527 - 02/18/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Plus there's a ton of moisture in those jars, wet grains, etc

They just don't look good. Could try fruiting the few that don't have obvious
green in separate shoeboxes or spawn bags


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26491542 - 02/18/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
Plus there's a ton of moisture in those jars, wet grains, etc



Ohhh! There ya go, they don't look that wet and they didn't feel that damp.
So my calibration is off, I  need to think dryer!

Quote:

They just don't look good. Could try fruiting the few that don't have obvious
green in separate shoeboxes or spawn bags




I'll try that!
:nicetry:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
    #26491657 - 02/18/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So since my first shoebox is going to be ready to harvest here any day now I need a dehydrator. I am not able to make my own quite yet so planning on the Presto 06301 its about 60$ on amazon new. Anyone have any better options for around that price i should look into? Thanks.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26491669 - 02/18/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
You can read the whole article but here is some relevant info
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1750-3841.14181

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The typical structure of a cereal grain constitutes of three edible parts: the bran which consists of the outer coat (pericarp, testa, and aleurone layers), the germ (the embryo) and the starchy endosperm, and an inedible husk that protects the kernel (Figure 4) (Dexter & Wood, 1996; Merali et al., 2013). Microbial colonization is generally restricted to the outer layers of cereal grains, that is, the husk, between the husk and pericarp, and within the pericarp tissue (Briggs, 1998). Several studies showed that after debranning—a controlled process in which the outer layers of the grains are removed, cereals are microbiologically purer (Bainotti & Perez, 2000; Laca et al., 2006). However, there are species able to invade the inner part of the grains and penetrate into the endosperm, causing internal infections (Nierop, 2006).




This ones just an abstract about wheat but go ahead and check it out anyway
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/223382603_Distribution_of_microbial_contamination_within_cereal_grains





Here's the full article if anyone is interested

https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.jfoodeng.2004.12.012

And use sci-hub.se if those fuckers want your $$$

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: NaudiShroomer]
    #26491724 - 02/18/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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NaudiShroomer said:
So since my first shoebox is going to be ready to harvest here any day now I need a dehydrator. I am not able to make my own quite yet so planning on the Presto 06301 its about 60$ on amazon new. Anyone have any better options for around that price i should look into? Thanks.




Nope, that’s the standard. I think I got mine for around $45 though, on Amazon


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26491791 - 02/18/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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c10h12n2o said:
I got it off Ebay. There are a few on there right now around 100, one identical to mine

Soooo worth it, it's nice to be able to sterilize scalpels hands free





On my must get list.

But now I'm worried my Producer's Pride oats are gonna shit the bed regardless of my sterile tek


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26491959 - 02/18/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Here is 3rd gen Tailfeathers


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26492082 - 02/18/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
Wby even risk it by starting with a grain that has a higher spore load when
you can use a better grain thats way easier to prep and costs damn near the same?




the only thing available in my area is re-cleaned wheat
will that work?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
    #26492156 - 02/18/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pretty sure recleaned just means they are cleaned after debraning. I think they should work


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26492184 - 02/18/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Wheat is great I wish I could still get it locally. I had found some food grade bags marked down somewhere I think it was Walmart. The food grade wheat was really nice to work with no rinsing required and worked great.
Feed stores around here don't carry wheat so I've been using barley. Works good so far. Doesn't cost much more than oats I think it was a dollar or 2 more than the same size bag of oats.


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