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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: filthyknees]
    #26489550 - 02/17/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So I bought that little induction heater linked in Pic of the day couple days ago
I got a 12V 2A power supply wired and it heats the knife up great..but only the 1st inch or so. If i pass the whole length of the tool in the coil it (power indicator) flashes which I assume means shorting out.

Can this be resolved with a higher amp supply?

I dont know much about electricity





That's really cool, I guess it's a DIY bacticinerator.  How long does it take to get red hot? My bacticinerator takes about 5 or 6 seconds





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Well, it says max power is 120 watts which wud be drawing 10amps at 12volts.
Your power supply says 2amps. Need more power. Anything allowing a 10amp pull is gonna have thicker gauge wire than that little power supply.



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Amazon shows a 5 amp supply normally sold with it!

I'd go 7.5-10amp




Takes about 5 seconds or so. That's the idea, just as much cheaper alternative.

Someone mentioned writing up something on a DIY but I haven't seen it. I seen the induction heater linked tho and it was pretty cheap, that plus a power supply under $40 for a sterilizer

I'm gonna get a higher rated supply so I can have it do what I want. I'll also likely solder the coil to the device


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #26489588 - 02/17/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I had posted about this in the Agar Envy thread, but i'm also having bacterial issues with oats. I want to take responsibility and blame my cultures not being 100% clean, but man it does make me wonder if oats are just bad. I have another 50# to work through so i'm just going to keep trudging forward, cleaning my cultures as carefully as i can.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #26489599 - 02/17/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No matter how clean I get my cultures I keep having issues and I'm starting to think it may be my oats. I'm switching back to WBS.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26489623 - 02/17/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

wheat is the best of both worlds.  Price of Oats, quality of Rye.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26489627 - 02/17/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Some oat specific bacteria that survives sterilization?




Or it could be people being noobs with grain prep. That's what I blame my oat failures on because I've certainly done numerous grows with oats that kicked ass.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome]
    #26489631 - 02/17/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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It's all batch dependant. Rye seems more consistent. Hard rye seed is the bestest. Feed grains are usually crap. Seed grains need to retain 99% viability. Seed grains are the bestest.





yes, the seed grains are worth their price IMO


@ricky:  I would say wheat is not quite on par with quality as rye but that can be overlooked for the cost

@mushboy:  I have a bag I can send u some oats if u want.  I've prepped them every way and sterilized the crap out of em. even done multiple cycles.  nothing I do can get them to colonize before going to crap.

go buy some grains from the bulk bin at your grocery and if you still cant get clean growth on em then maybe its the grain.  when I had issues it wasnt just oats but every grain from a certain supplier.  simply switching brands did the trick


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26489632 - 02/17/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

How do you know my noob ass wont botch the prep?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26489636 - 02/17/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

:facepalm:      I'll have to do that for you I guess:shrug:  you gotta cover the cost difference to ship tho


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26489643 - 02/17/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Oh god i have my first ever pins  :naughty:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26489982 - 02/17/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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p9hu7 said:
Some oat specific bacteria that survives sterilization?




Or it could be people being noobs with grain prep. That's what I blame my oat failures on because I've certainly done numerous grows with oats that kicked ass.




My attempt at WBS was pretty noobtastic, Worst grain prep failure I've ever had.

I'm getting a bag of wheat and giving that a whirl. Oats have become insufferable, I've grown to hate grain prep because of them.

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natedawgnow said:
It's been shown in lots of studies that
hull-intact cereal grains have higher bacterial/endo spore counts.




I was unaware of that, thanks.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26489993 - 02/17/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Wheat is awesome! Best grain I've worked with and at 12 bucks for 50lbs the price is
pretty comparable to oats.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26490075 - 02/17/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Jst have some wbs and some wheat/rye berries on hand and you'll be fine.
You dnt need any of that other shit that is generally inconsistent in quality.
Dnt buy organic either. They dump a bunch of shit on it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26490076 - 02/17/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

All I know is none of my unopened sterilized jars of oats went bad on their own.

They only went to shit after I opened them. Leading me to point the finger at myself.

Got links to those studies Nate? None of the articles I saw were taking about sterilized grain. It was all cereal grains affecting the guts bio blahblah.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26490117 - 02/17/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Obviously the studies aren't about sterilized grains, dude. It's about the bacteria
that's endemic to the grains and how hull-intact grains have more spores as compared
to hulled grains because, inherently, the majority of contaminant spores are
found on the surface of grains. If the hull is still intact, higher amounts of
spores can be found between the hull and the grain.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26490142 - 02/17/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You can read the whole article but here is some relevant info
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1750-3841.14181

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The typical structure of a cereal grain constitutes of three edible parts: the bran which consists of the outer coat (pericarp, testa, and aleurone layers), the germ (the embryo) and the starchy endosperm, and an inedible husk that protects the kernel (Figure 4) (Dexter & Wood, 1996; Merali et al., 2013). Microbial colonization is generally restricted to the outer layers of cereal grains, that is, the husk, between the husk and pericarp, and within the pericarp tissue (Briggs, 1998). Several studies showed that after debranning—a controlled process in which the outer layers of the grains are removed, cereals are microbiologically purer (Bainotti & Perez, 2000; Laca et al., 2006). However, there are species able to invade the inner part of the grains and penetrate into the endosperm, causing internal infections (Nierop, 2006).




This ones just an abstract about wheat but go ahead and check it out anyway
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/223382603_Distribution_of_microbial_contamination_within_cereal_grains


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26490320 - 02/17/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I guess I'm just confused because we sterilize the grain.

So isnt the bacterial/endo load in oats(or intact hull grain) a moot point?


Thx faht:highfive:


Edited by mushboy (02/17/20 03:42 PM)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26490385 - 02/17/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So check this out... I got a 1/2lb Ape/Pe mix thats powdered and stored in two pint mason jars awaiting extraction. How long will it keep?




Hey so keep me posted on that. I made some moonshine and I've got an AA+ mono fruiting right now. Had some tubs go bad lately bc I was using up leftover spawn that weren't my first choice jars. Hopefully be running that extraction we talked about next week. I wanna run the extraction/conversion on some pans but I gotta stop eating them first.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26490397 - 02/17/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What we do is more like 99.9%(effective sterilization) as opposed to 100%(complete sterilization, whether there are 100,000,000,000  or 1,000,000 or 1,000 actually does make a difference because there will be some level of survival, and its also possible the hulls act as insulation making sterilization even less effective

(All numbers fabricated to make a point)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #26490406 - 02/17/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Even knowing that I'll still blame my oat issues on my hand not the grain.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26490473 - 02/17/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I guess I'm just confused because we sterilize the grain.

So isnt the bacterial/endo load in oats(or intact hull grain) a moot point?


Thx faht:highfive:



The point is you start out with a grain with a higher endospore count.
An endospore is a small spore inside of bacteria cells which can die off but still
leave a living endospore. If we sterilize up to 99.99%, then out of 10,000,000
cells 100,000 of them still survive. Plus the hull could aid in protection.

Just something to think about


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