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Ovoidhunter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26489148 - 02/16/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Someone is lending me a closet that I'm equipping my greenhouse in. Gonna do a run of about 40 cakes to shoeboxes and then try some more pasty plates during. Even tho everyone of my last attempts got contaminated. I'm then gonna do a big giveaway. Just waiting on spores to get here. 
Gonna try some LCs to any recommendations for an easy LC tek would be cool.
Edited by Ovoidhunter (02/16/20 10:11 PM)
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NaudiShroomer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26489157 - 02/16/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the input, although seems like it's whatever I am used to using is what I should use lol. No one uses brown rice? Is there a reason for that? Love this site btw, appreciate all the help from lurking for countless hours. Poured my first agar last night and got some shiitake going on them now to practice.
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jbgtaa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26489161 - 02/16/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said: Someone is lending me a closet that I'm equipping my greenhouse in. Gonna do a run of about 40 cakes to shoeboxes and then try some more pasty plates during. Even tho everyone of my last attempts got contaminated. I'm then gonna do a big giveaway. Just waiting on spores to get here. 
Gonna try some LCs to any recommendations for an easy LC tek would be cool.
Do you have a solid culture on agar? I wouldn’t shoot spores into an LC if I were you.
Also Naudi I’m sure most people use proper cereal grain because it’s easier and cheaper. That’d be my first guess.
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Ovoidhunter
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26489169 - 02/16/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brown rice flower jars work but the serious cultivator goes spores-agar-to g2g. Something that seems so intimidating but I know that if I was in the same room as some of these guys and watched them I could do it.
No I don't have anything on agar yet. It's gonna be MS-BRF-Shoeboxes. Using horse manure at a 1/2 ratio. I don't want to use a syringe again either because of the water in the petri trying to get a print on trading post atm.
Edited by Ovoidhunter (02/16/20 10:34 PM)
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NaudiShroomer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26489183 - 02/16/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I spawned 2 half pint BRF jars to a shoebox with coir and it's coming along real good. I also took some of the BRF and put it in 4 BR jars and those are doing great too. Been fun hobby so far!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26489189 - 02/16/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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jbgtaa said:
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p9hu7 said: Some oat specific bacteria that survives sterilization?
Right sounds ridiculous, and I’ve never had an ENTIRE bag of oats become bacterial, but that’s the wives tale that everyone against oats preaches.
I'd venture to say that if jars become bacterial it's due to improper sterilization or compromised inoculant, not because a particular grain has mythical super bacteria.
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TedsDead



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26489200 - 02/16/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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yes, but even when theyre clean they tend to look "wet" which can be confused for bacterial and if there is bacteria it can sneak in unnoticed with this wetness. it usually happens after the shake cause they look fine before you shake em but the hull doesnt like to re-colonize and looks off
not as noob friendly IMO
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26489204 - 02/16/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not a mythical super bacteria. It's been shown in lots of studies that hull-intact cereal grains have higher bacterial/endo spore counts. Plus lots of issues with oats come from overmoisture which can be attributed to moisture trapped between the hull and the grain. It may look dry on the outside but it may not be.
Lots of people have had terrible luck with oats. It doesnt just come down to inexperience. Pasty has said many times that oats never seemed to work for him and I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that pasty is inexperienced.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26489206 - 02/16/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’ve had plenty of luck with oats but I can get wheat for the same price, and I like how it looks better. I also like rye (and I mix either 50/50 with millet for packing more inoculation points into master jars), but no hulls mean its easier to see how hydrated the grain is and it also allows it to steam off better. Can also fit about 10-15% more grain by weight per cooker run with bags of rye or wheat vs oats, the hulls take up a fair bit of space.
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TedsDead



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26489210 - 02/16/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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density factor
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26489211 - 02/16/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just don't like oats. My opinion.  I still use them if that makes the oat lovers feel better. I probably won't be buying more after I burn through these last bags though.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1] 1
#26489213 - 02/16/20 11:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wheat rules, oats drool
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Asura
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26489217 - 02/16/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I, too, have strong opinions about oats
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Asura]
#26489250 - 02/17/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Asura said: I, too, have strong opinions about oats 
Please share them 
What do you like?
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TedsDead



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26489265 - 02/17/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, they're cheap but so is all sorts of crap I don't need. I shell out for rye these days
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26489272 - 02/17/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's all batch dependant. Rye seems more consistent. Hard rye seed is the bestest. Feed grains are usually crap. Seed grains need to retain 99% viability. Seed grains are the bestest.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nichrome] 2
#26489419 - 02/17/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oats blow goats
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Drboomer
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Asura]
#26489508 - 02/17/20 06:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Raptor pebble gang
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Drboomer]
#26489533 - 02/17/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The power of the oat side is strong. I like all the grains TBH, but they must be properly prepared. Oats don't need to be so overcooked. Just bring to a boil for minutes at the most. Dial your shit in and don't blame the cereal for your failure to prepare it just right.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#26489536 - 02/17/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I prefer wheat or rye over oats.
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