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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26457672 - 01/28/20 09:21 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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I have my first shoebox that is starting to side pin (first pins ever!). The substrate is Black Kow and the substrate hasn't really pulled itself from the walls quite yet. If I see around 4 or 5 sidepins would the substrate be dense enough to be squeezed out into a mono tub for fruiting?



??? What?

First off you should be glad that the sub isn’t shrinking, it’s kind of a good sign. Second of all, if your only pins are growing on the side instead of on top, you need to fix your surface conditions.

Next time around I would use coir or pasteurized raw powdered manure rather than black kow. Extremely inconsistent and has a ton of impurities, that black kow, although there is documented success using it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26457695 - 01/28/20 09:39 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

how long are spore swabs viable for if stored properly??


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26457714 - 01/28/20 10:01 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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I have my first shoebox that is starting to side pin (first pins ever!). The substrate is Black Kow and the substrate hasn't really pulled itself from the walls quite yet. If I see around 4 or 5 sidepins would the substrate be dense enough to be squeezed out into a mono tub for fruiting?



??? What?

First off you should be glad that the sub isn’t shrinking, it’s kind of a good sign. Second of all, if your only pins are growing on the side instead of on top, you need to fix your surface conditions.

Next time around I would use coir or pasteurized raw powdered manure rather than black kow. Extremely inconsistent and has a ton of impurities, that black kow, although there is documented success using it.





I thought sinking substrate was a good sign. I see knotting on the surface but coincidentally the light is closest to the corner where I see the pinning. When I used an led to search for glistening water droplets I usually stop seeing them after a couple days and spray again. I have one side of the lid unattached which may be letting some of the moisture too quickly perhaps? :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26457723 - 01/28/20 10:04 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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I have my first shoebox that is starting to side pin (first pins ever!). The substrate is Black Kow and the substrate hasn't really pulled itself from the walls quite yet. If I see around 4 or 5 sidepins would the substrate be dense enough to be squeezed out into a mono tub for fruiting?



Idk. I spawned a shoebox of mixed variety spawn.. it never really solidified, if you knw what i mean. Still stable enough to lightly handle. I'd say give it a shot. And the pinning-where-lit is no coincidence. If you got all other conditions down nice, wherever you shine light there will be pins.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tealseal]
    #26457725 - 01/28/20 10:06 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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how long are spore swabs viable for if stored properly??



I have 2 year old swabs that germinAted in 2 days and 2 year old syringes that are fucked. Kinda a crapshoot. Syringe are are  A better shot for long term spores but I was really surprised that I couldn't get shit out of a two-year-old syringe from a trade.  3 tries, nothing.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26457740 - 01/28/20 10:22 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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how long are spore swabs viable for if stored properly??



I have 2 year old swabs that germinAted in 2 days and 2 year old syringes that are fucked. Kinda a crapshoot. Syringe are are  A better shot for long term spores but I was really surprised that I couldn't get shit out of a two-year-old syringe from a trade.  3 tries, nothing.





thats funny i have the opposite luck with syringes, kinda why i fucks with the swabbing. i have gotten germination with syringes just a higher success rate with spores. ideally i want most of my good stuff slanted. but i have certain variety's i wont have time for in the near future. just curious how long i can put off certain projects lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26457744 - 01/28/20 10:24 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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I have my first shoebox that is starting to side pin (first pins ever!). The substrate is Black Kow and the substrate hasn't really pulled itself from the walls quite yet. If I see around 4 or 5 sidepins would the substrate be dense enough to be squeezed out into a mono tub for fruiting?



Idk. I spawned a shoebox of mixed variety spawn.. it never really solidified, if you knw what i mean. Still stable enough to lightly handle. I'd say give it a shot. And the pinning-where-lit is no coincidence. If you got all other conditions down nice, wherever you shine light there will be pins.




Guess I might need to get more lights. I will add some more or something bigger to the mix and leave it in the shoebox. Thanks


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26457745 - 01/28/20 10:25 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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tealseal said:
how long are spore swabs viable for if stored properly??



I have 2 year old swabs that germinAted in 2 days and 2 year old syringes that are fucked. Kinda a crapshoot. Syringe are are  A better shot for long term spores but I was really surprised that I couldn't get shit out of a two-year-old syringe from a trade.  3 tries, nothing.



Not suprising at all.
Spores just dont store good wet.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26457809 - 01/28/20 11:50 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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GypsyCurse said:
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CocaineBuffet said:
I have my first shoebox that is starting to side pin (first pins ever!). The substrate is Black Kow and the substrate hasn't really pulled itself from the walls quite yet. If I see around 4 or 5 sidepins would the substrate be dense enough to be squeezed out into a mono tub for fruiting?



Idk. I spawned a shoebox of mixed variety spawn.. it never really solidified, if you knw what i mean. Still stable enough to lightly handle. I'd say give it a shot. And the pinning-where-lit is no coincidence. If you got all other conditions down nice, wherever you shine light there will be pins.




Guess I might need to get more lights. I will add some more or something bigger to the mix and leave it in the shoebox. Thanks



Lights really don’t make much of a difference. For a while I just had my op near a window that Only got direct light 5 hrs of the day. Then I set my op on a 24 hr light schedule. Then switched to purple and red lightts for a 12/12 cycle. None of any of it made a difference. Light is far less important than you think. As long as there is *some* sunlight/any type of light your mushrooms will grow straight towards it, otherwise it doesn’t matter.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
    #26457880 - 01/29/20 01:53 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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My filter had a felt like gasket on the entrance side I believe. I ended up just caulking the shit out of the metal rim of the filter when I made my box so it sealed.

I am not sure if the direction of air is as important as the rate of air flow. When I first built my flow hood I made a box and left like a 10 inch deep area between my blower entrance and my filter and it just wouldn't build up enough static pressure to be efficient. I have recently rebuild said flowhood leaving 2 inches between the blower entrance and the filter entrance and have had much better success.




So do you mean like a ten inch gap above the filter? Or do you mean the fan was ten inches going backwards away from the filter? This is confusing to put into words lol. I was thinking of doing about a ten inch plenum, I think that’s the right word, basically space behind the filter that the blower blows into.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26458129 - 01/29/20 08:08 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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CocaineBuffet said:
I have my first shoebox that is starting to side pin (first pins ever!). The substrate is Black Kow and the substrate hasn't really pulled itself from the walls quite yet. If I see around 4 or 5 sidepins would the substrate be dense enough to be squeezed out into a mono tub for fruiting?



Idk. I spawned a shoebox of mixed variety spawn.. it never really solidified, if you knw what i mean. Still stable enough to lightly handle. I'd say give it a shot. And the pinning-where-lit is no coincidence. If you got all other conditions down nice, wherever you shine light there will be pins.




Guess I might need to get more lights. I will add some more or something bigger to the mix and leave it in the shoebox. Thanks



Lights really don’t make much of a difference. For a while I just had my op near a window that Only got direct light 5 hrs of the day. Then I set my op on a 24 hr light schedule. Then switched to purple and red lightts for a 12/12 cycle. None of any of it made a difference. Light is far less important than you think. As long as there is *some* sunlight/any type of light your mushrooms will grow straight towards it, otherwise it doesn’t matter.




I have a lamp pointed at the side of the tub. Should I light from above?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26458455 - 01/29/20 12:21 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

@cocainebuffet: it doesn’t matter. Your mushrooms might grow slightly sideways but it won’t be a problem.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26458461 - 01/29/20 12:24 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Has anybody had this happen with soft agar?

These were all from clean uniform plates, then out of nowhere this. I’m not sure if it’s contaminated agar, which I’ve never had, or because I made it really soft for the grain jar.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26458474 - 01/29/20 12:33 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)


this sub went on to make beautiful mushrooms lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26458593 - 01/29/20 02:12 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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My filter had a felt like gasket on the entrance side I believe. I ended up just caulking the shit out of the metal rim of the filter when I made my box so it sealed.

I am not sure if the direction of air is as important as the rate of air flow. When I first built my flow hood I made a box and left like a 10 inch deep area between my blower entrance and my filter and it just wouldn't build up enough static pressure to be efficient. I have recently rebuild said flowhood leaving 2 inches between the blower entrance and the filter entrance and have had much better success.




So do you mean like a ten inch gap above the filter? Or do you mean the fan was ten inches going backwards away from the filter? This is confusing to put into words lol. I was thinking of doing about a ten inch plenum, I think that’s the right word, basically space behind the filter that the blower blows into.





I made my first flow hood with 10 inches between the filter and back wall where. The box the air blows into, and I realized that I was not getting enough static pressure because my blower was to small. Decreased the space and increased the static pressure which gave me more air into the filter media.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
    #26458623 - 01/29/20 02:34 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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Sockadin said:
My filter had a felt like gasket on the entrance side I believe. I ended up just caulking the shit out of the metal rim of the filter when I made my box so it sealed.

I am not sure if the direction of air is as important as the rate of air flow. When I first built my flow hood I made a box and left like a 10 inch deep area between my blower entrance and my filter and it just wouldn't build up enough static pressure to be efficient. I have recently rebuild said flowhood leaving 2 inches between the blower entrance and the filter entrance and have had much better success.




So do you mean like a ten inch gap above the filter? Or do you mean the fan was ten inches going backwards away from the filter? This is confusing to put into words lol. I was thinking of doing about a ten inch plenum, I think that’s the right word, basically space behind the filter that the blower blows into.





I made my first flow hood with 10 inches between the filter and back wall where. The box the air blows into, and I realized that I was not getting enough static pressure because my blower was to small. Decreased the space and increased the static pressure which gave me more air into the filter media.




So what did you reduce it to and how big is your filter? Mine is a mini pleat so it’s only about 4” deep, what blower were you using?

I will probably make the space from filter to back wall (is that the plenum?)  as small as the blower is wide in order to fit it in, maybe 6” to 8” or just get a stronger blower


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26458688 - 01/29/20 03:19 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Your plenum needs to be at least as deep as your filter is wide. 6" filter needs
a 6" plenum minimum


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26458745 - 01/29/20 04:01 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I think the fan I’m going to get is about 13” wide at its widest point so the whole thing will need to be that big at least just to hold the fan. So filter about 4” and a 9” plenum should do it, the fan is about 550cfm I think if I’ve converted it correctly from metric lol should be powerful enough?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26458764 - 01/29/20 04:12 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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Has anybody had this happen with soft agar?

These were all from clean uniform plates, then out of nowhere this. I’m not sure if it’s contaminated agar, which I’ve never had, or because I made it really soft for the grain jar.






Those appear to have a mold.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #26458783 - 01/29/20 04:36 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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this sub went on to make beautiful mushrooms lol



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