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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: spiritlands]
    #26455845 - 01/27/20 07:25 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)



This is my MS golden teacher day 7 on wheat. it has white parts and more whispy parts. got me worried reading translucent only. Cause I thought this looked great.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26455848 - 01/27/20 07:26 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

I’m not great at reading spawn yet but that does look bacterial to me

The pic of all the bags they look good but that bright white chunk in the first one just looks weird to me idk why.

Like I said don’t listen to me though I’m still trying to learn this stuff too but with wbs.

I do this thing where after I shake jars I think the growth looks bad until it gets bigger and connects the little spots, then think it looks good.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26455851 - 01/27/20 07:29 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

unsure if its helpful in diagnosing... but this was noc'd with LI and shaken a ton for minutes to get it everywhere....


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] * 3
    #26455854 - 01/27/20 07:30 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Yup. I used them with reasonable success doing tamps. But could never get cosistant results.

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these fuckin oats.

heres wbs jar and an oat jar(on the right). both inoculated with the same clone LC.
the wbs was inoculated a couple day after the oats. same broth..

anyway the oats finished yesterday.

same thing with damn near all my oats. they colonize and start oozing metabolites like its sweatin the shit.

not my sexy bseed tho..

damn i miss you gurl.




Fuck oats:crankey:

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Jeszzie chrisses. Take a few years off and everyone hates OATs!  What happened Bodhisatta? I thought we had the oat oat gang gang going pretty well.

Well shit, I guess I will admit oats are more difficult to work with than rye berries. This is why I decided to move back to corn. I would link a pic but I'm cheep and maxed out my pic load. Guess it is time to roll up a supporter account again.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sockadin]
    #26455971 - 01/27/20 08:25 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

The healthiest myc I have on plates or on oats and wbs is so thin and whispy. Almost invisible on plates. I used to much nutes. My AA+ jar and melmak were preped and dried really well. Was best looking colonized oats I've seen. The AA+ was spawned and it's fully colonized now and pinning but it was so thin and whispy on the coir I thought it was cobweb. I G2G the whispy melmak to 3 spawn bags of oats and the growth exploded. It looks thicker in the bags.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26456002 - 01/27/20 08:42 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

I think this is a confusion/difference of description.

this is what I think of when I think of "thin, whispy, transparent":



but that's obviously not cube myc, it's mold. But I also get what Mycologist was saying - basically that you can see around the individual strands, they don't clump over things to such a degree that you can't see the grains at all.

:shrug:

maybe not i dunno. everything I've read here is along the lines of "cube myc is unmistakably white"


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: trubblesome]
    #26456012 - 01/27/20 08:50 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

I was wondering if bags turn out to be a bit whiter than jars because (just speculating) that bags might sweat a bit more because of their size/heat, thin walls... leading to whiter mycelia at the bag surface.

and thanks for talking about this, cause I'm trying to get better/more critical at looking at my spawn.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26456082 - 01/27/20 10:16 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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And when I heard that healthy cube mycelia is ONLY translucent...






Only? Where'd you hear that??




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26452895#26452895

This dude posted on "tip of the day" thread and no one challenged it....




Well, IF y'all grow for and select wispy spawn then yeah wispy spawn is what you'll get.  But I like rhyzo and I like aggressive spawn and it never looks wispy or translucent nor have I ever thought it was a virtue. 

When I bust up a jar for spawning I wanna smell that great myc smell - nothing on god's gray earth can compare to it. :awesomenod:

The real key IME is CHANGES in the appearance of your myc as it colonizes the grain, whatever kind of grain you use and whatever kind of moisture content you like. If it stalls or changes habit yeah, then you've got trouble, and that trouble is usually bacterial.

Most of my master jars have to be beat to death on an old tire I keep in the garage just for beating colonized jars on before they're ready go spawn new jars or bulk.  If you get great flushes and BE your spawn is not contaminated no matter what it might look like. 

But that's just my experience and my preference. :murray:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26456085 - 01/27/20 10:18 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Can you guys please give opinions





What Nate said.

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I would definitely say without a doubt that
it looks bad and almost not worth using at all.




:whathesaid:



Sal good they go in the compost pile then in the garden and I should be able to get fruits off them once it warms up a little. I'm at the point in my life where I'm starting to be picky about what I spawn it's not a big loss got more jars going that im more confident in plus a couple fruiting tubs. You know what they say about eggs and a basket lmao.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26456409 - 01/28/20 07:57 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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And when I heard that healthy cube mycelia is ONLY translucent...






Only? Where'd you hear that??




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26452895#26452895

This dude posted on "tip of the day" thread and no one challenged it....




Well, IF y'all grow for and select wispy spawn then yeah wispy spawn is what you'll get.  But I like rhyzo and I like aggressive spawn and it never looks wispy or translucent nor have I ever thought it was a virtue. 

When I bust up a jar for spawning I wanna smell that great myc smell - nothing on god's gray earth can compare to it. :awesomenod:

The real key IME is CHANGES in the appearance of your myc as it colonizes the grain, whatever kind of grain you use and whatever kind of moisture content you like. If it stalls or changes habit yeah, then you've got trouble, and that trouble is usually bacterial.

Most of my master jars have to be beat to death on an old tire I keep in the garage just for beating colonized jars on before they're ready go spawn new jars or bulk.  If you get great flushes and BE your spawn is not contaminated no matter what it might look like. 

But that's just my experience and my preference. :murray:




I really appreciate this as I hone my bacteria sensing skills. I appreciate that "change is bad" statement. I haven't heard it said that way before.

I am also curious about speed in all this. The slurry folks are all about not letting uncolonized grains sit in a sweaty jar or bag for very long... I do bags without a flowhood, so I avoid G2G. I'm down to about a week colonizing a large bag of wheat with Li and having more success than my previous 3 week consolidation.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26456412 - 01/28/20 07:58 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

Li seems to be by far the fastest from what I’ve seen here.

I think a week for a large bag is about the best you could do.
Which li method do you use?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26456445 - 01/28/20 08:32 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

So I'm finally getting to the bottom of my 50# bag of oats, first grain I've worked with.  Went to costco yesterday and saw they had a 50# bag of WBS for 10.99...Gonna have to scoop that up for my next bag


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26456473 - 01/28/20 08:56 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

I basically do eats liquid inoculate tek.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26456677 - 01/28/20 11:24 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

Liquid (syrupy) LME or powder?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26456688 - 01/28/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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"The grain is still clearly visible through a translucent layer of mycelium"



Is there a language barrier here? Mycelium should be “slightly opaque” not translucent in most cases. Tampanensis and panaelous are pretty damn wispy and see through but a good cube culture should pretty well obscure your vision of most of the grains you can see where they are and what is and isn’t a grain, but it should be totally white.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26456750 - 01/28/20 12:22 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

I have some store bought Malt Extract Agar.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26456934 - 01/28/20 02:13 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

After about a year of practice and several contaminant epileptics, i basically jst knw by stairing at it (last being the sniff test) if it's fucked or not. Couldn't necessarily tell ya that "as long as it looks like this it's ok." Doesnt really work that way.

Same for colonization times.
Never used an lc or slurry or jizz juice or whatever da fuck it's called. On average clean healthy g2g takes about a week say for a grip of variables. Like, depends on how much spawn you transfer to the recieving jar or if it's a ravenous fucking culture or some coup lent shit.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26456936 - 01/28/20 02:13 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

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Liquid (syrupy) LME or powder?





Powder. I got the liquid shit too but I've never used it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26457060 - 01/28/20 03:20 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

Anyone who’s built a flowhood and their filter had like a rubber gasket on it? Any idea if this is the side where the air goes in or is it where the filtered air leaves the filter? There don’t seem to be any arrows or anything I can see saying air goes this way or does it even matter?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26457113 - 01/28/20 03:47 PM (4 years, 2 days ago)

Pretty sure my gasket is on the outlet side and I also had arrows. Best to check with the supplier if uncertain.


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