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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26455502 - 01/27/20 04:04 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

Decent amount of moisture inside the jar, spiky unorganized lookin growth in some spots, etc. They look like oats.
Honestly it's kinda hard to read oats but clean myc on oats looks uniform and light or even kinda faint.

That said, oats blow. If those aren't oats though then I would definitely say without a doubt that
it looks bad and almost not worth using at all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26455516 - 01/27/20 04:18 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Decent amount of moisture inside the jar, spiky unorganized lookin growth in some spots, etc. They look like oats.
Honestly it's kinda hard to read oats but clean myc on oats looks uniform and light or even kinda faint.

That said, oats blow. If those aren't oats though then I would definitely say without a doubt that
it looks bad and almost not worth using at all.



This jar is mostly oats yes with some other grains mixed in. I know the grains look like they are super wet but that is only condensation against glass thankfully but I have problems with condensation during winter and especially on the outer jars and ones that sit next to the mini fridge. During the summer it's not as bad.

I've got another candidate that I'm curious about also looks a little sketch to me. Give me a minute and I'll update this post with a pic.
Edit:
So another jar that also seems a little sketchy to me from 3 different angles just like the last.

Can you guys please give opinions


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
    #26455629 - 01/27/20 05:25 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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natedawgnow said:
Decent amount of moisture inside the jar, spiky unorganized lookin growth in some spots, etc. They look like oats.
Honestly it's kinda hard to read oats but clean myc on oats looks uniform and light or even kinda faint.

That said, oats blow. If those aren't oats though then I would definitely say without a doubt that
it looks bad and almost not worth using at all.



This jar is mostly oats yes with some other grains mixed in. I know the grains look like they are super wet but that is only condensation against glass thankfully but I have problems with condensation during winter and especially on the outer jars and ones that sit next to the mini fridge. During the summer it's not as bad.

I've got another candidate that I'm curious about also looks a little sketch to me. Give me a minute and I'll update this post with a pic.
Edit:
So another jar that also seems a little sketchy to me from 3 different angles just like the last.

Can you guys please give opinions



Those ultra-bright white spots are bacterial mycelium. Same with the first ones you posted. I’ve found that I need to PC my oats for 2 hours, and that’s more than it’s worth so I switched to mullet. Way less bacterial problems and the same price.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26455668 - 01/27/20 05:47 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Can you guys please give opinions





What Nate said.

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I would definitely say without a doubt that
it looks bad and almost not worth using at all.




:whathesaid:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #26455688 - 01/27/20 05:56 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

I’ve said it 100 times I’ll say it 1000 more, fuck Oats. Side by side with anything else they just look like shit.

Mushboy do you ever use them? I’d still spawn those I’ve been hella surprised from ugly AF oats. But yeah neither look good enough for g2g giz


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #26455694 - 01/27/20 06:02 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

Yup. I used them with reasonable success doing tamps. But could never get cosistant results.

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these fuckin oats.

heres wbs jar and an oat jar(on the right). both inoculated with the same clone LC.
the wbs was inoculated a couple day after the oats. same broth..

anyway the oats finished yesterday.

same thing with damn near all my oats. they colonize and start oozing metabolites like its sweatin the shit.

not my sexy bseed tho..

damn i miss you gurl.




Fuck oats:crankey:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26455718 - 01/27/20 06:16 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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Thanks! Thats all interesting. I'm all sensitive because I believe I had a very subtle contam on my transfers for a few years... and my plates looked good, my bags grew out okay, recovered from shakes well, and always smelled fine. But man, mold city around my first flush. So now I'm skeptical that I have clean agar and LI technique. And when I heard that healthy cube mycelia is ONLY translucent... I got a bit sad that I'm not there yet.




Figuring out contam vectors can be a total bitch.  I reworked almost everything I was using this time out to rule them out and by dog it worked. 

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26455720 - 01/27/20 06:17 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

Is it common for growth to look weird on super soft agar??

I made some plates to try the sagari thing where it’s so soft it dissolves into li when you shake it.

Almost all of them have huge clear leading edges, like up to 1/3 inch, and the myc on top seems to randomly be visible.

I’ll get some pics soon but if I hold the plate to light so I can see the clear edge the growth is uniform circular, but looking at it normally it looks crazy uneven.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26455727 - 01/27/20 06:21 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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A.k.a said:
Is it common for growth to look weird on super soft agar??

I made some plates to try the sagari thing where it’s so soft it dissolves into li when you shake it.

Almost all of them have huge clear leading edges, like up to 1/3 inch, and the myc on top seems to randomly be visible.

I’ll get some pics soon but if I hold the plate to light so I can see the clear edge the growth is uniform circular, but looking at it normally it looks crazy uneven.




I've been dealing with the same thing. I think when agar gets real soft the mycelia sorta digs in. all my cultures are doing that on my soft agar.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26455747 - 01/27/20 06:33 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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And when I heard that healthy cube mycelia is ONLY translucent...






Only? Where'd you hear that??


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26455750 - 01/27/20 06:36 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

I have a germ plate on the softest agar I’ve ever made, the cap leaked while pcing the sagari bottle and even more water got in.

Anyway I swiped spores on it and there’s a ton of growth but almost none on the surface. It’s actually inside the agar puck. Which is perfect for what I’m trying to do since it can grow until the whole plate is colonized instead of just the surface.

The weird growth on the other soft plates just surprised me, some were fourth and fifth transfers so I knew the wedge was good but thought maybe I had poured contaminated agar or something. It seems like the only kind of growth that looks totally normal is the rhizo that looks like little threads.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26455767 - 01/27/20 06:43 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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And when I heard that healthy cube mycelia is ONLY translucent...






Only? Where'd you hear that??




https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26452895#26452895

This dude posted on "tip of the day" thread and no one challenged it....


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26455794 - 01/27/20 07:01 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

:pink:
I suppose but I wouldnt use the word translucent. Nor ONLY.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
    #26455802 - 01/27/20 07:05 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

He's pretty spot on. Clean myc looks wispyer and uniform and bacterial myc looks
thick, splotchy, and icecreamy


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26455803 - 01/27/20 07:08 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

There’s a good pic in the pic of the day thread that just got posted of a bad jar with a perfect example of unhealthy growth


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26455805 - 01/27/20 07:09 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

"The grain is still clearly visible through a translucent layer of mycelium"


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26455807 - 01/27/20 07:09 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

Wispier? maybe. uniform most def. Thick, splotchy, ice creamy?.. yes for bacteria.

Translucent?
:justno:

Just my opinion


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26455815 - 01/27/20 07:13 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

Thats what I want to hear, because my shit gets white at full colonization.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #26455824 - 01/27/20 07:18 PM (4 years, 3 days ago)

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mushboy said:
Yup. I used them with reasonable success doing tamps. But could never get cosistant results.

Quote:

mushboy said:
these fuckin oats.

heres wbs jar and an oat jar(on the right). both inoculated with the same clone LC.
the wbs was inoculated a couple day after the oats. same broth..

anyway the oats finished yesterday.

same thing with damn near all my oats. they colonize and start oozing metabolites like its sweatin the shit.

not my sexy bseed tho..

damn i miss you gurl.




Fuck oats:crankey:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?forum%5B%5D=&words=Fuck+oats&namebox=Mushboy&replybox=&how=all&where=body&tosearch=both&newerval=&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=y&minwords=&maxwords=&limit=25&sort=r&way=d





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