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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: spiritlands]
    #26445667 - 01/22/20 05:58 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Could be all kinds of things. Improper conditions and/ or lack of light.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26445675 - 01/22/20 06:02 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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verum subsequentis said:
Could be all kinds of things. Improper conditions and/ or lack of light.

(Que the caps "better suited for general discussion" comment)





Good thing this is general discussion lol

I cultivate in my bedroom on some plastic shelving and tehre is a ceiling fan in there. I share the room with my girlfriend so I don't have full authority on temps and air flow lol

I have been using unmodded tubs since I started, but wonder if I might want to look into modded tubs since my room is pretty variable with the fans being on or off all the time. Being modded I could compensate for days we have the fan going all day, or vice versa.

But when typing this out, I think it may be more of a hassle cause I would to potentially have to adjust the monos every day

Either way, I would really appreciate anyone else input or thoughts on it


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93] * 1
    #26445771 - 01/22/20 07:54 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Damn. That's what i get for posting before coffee. HA


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: spiritlands]
    #26445815 - 01/22/20 08:32 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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Does thin stems mean not enough fae in a mono tub? Cubes.




Poor light, lack of oxygen, shitty genetic, some or all of these together


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm] * 1
    #26445982 - 01/22/20 09:54 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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Thnx brudda :thumbup:
I knw man totally, but psilocybin doesnt work on me anymore.
I also dnt have many test subjects down to trip at least once a week. They burn out quick hehe




Yeah but you don't have to trip to test the potency you just have to eat enough to feel it - I've been doing 7-8 g tests on fresh PE strains and its  pretty obvious by half an hour which are the best clones...  :laugh2:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26445988 - 01/22/20 09:56 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Lol I thought you meant 7-8 dried for a second.

My normal test dose was a dry gram but after my first PE “test” dose I knocked it down to .5 for them.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26445995 - 01/22/20 09:59 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

:ilold:  I think I'd be dying at 8 g dried of some of these candidates lately...

I got pretty fried as it was - trying to watch a movie and getting all :utterconfusion:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26446014 - 01/22/20 10:08 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Yeah if I had bought PE from somebody without knowing about them, between the atypical look and the potency I would’ve 100% thought somebody bought regular mushrooms and injected them with some type or research chem lol.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: spiritlands]
    #26446113 - 01/22/20 10:52 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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Yeah if I had bought PE from somebody without knowing about them, between the atypical look and the potency I would’ve 100% thought somebody bought regular mushrooms and injected them with some type or research chem lol.



Haha. Man I miss 5MEO-MIPT. The good ol days of research chems.


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Does thin stems mean not enough fae in a mono tub? Cubes.



I have had some flushed that were super thin from genetics that are normally not. I think FAE was a big part of the problem but they didn't have fuzzy feet which is what I hear is the normal indicatorfor lack of FAE. However, I also recent realized (will be heading to confessions after this) that my light timer had been switch from "timer" to "on" at some point so for an unknown period of time, all my tubs and jars were on a 24\7 light schedule. I doubt you are having this same issue but I think that may have played into my problem as well as the lack of FAE. The tub after the one in question was the same genetics but much 'meatier". I changed multiple variables so can't say for sure what the cause was but I suppose the point of this unnecessarily long comment is that yes I believe a lack of FAE can lead to skinny\thin stipes on the fruits. Hope that helps :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26446247 - 01/22/20 12:11 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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Yeah but you don't have to trip to test the potency you just have to eat enough to feel it -



Meh, fuck cloning. All hail Multispore!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26446256 - 01/22/20 12:16 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

You can take your clone samples, grow em out then eat a real dose to decide which to keep if you're really about selecting favorites.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26446274 - 01/22/20 12:24 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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Quote:

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Yeah but you don't have to trip to test the potency you just have to eat enough to feel it -



Meh, fuck cloning. All hail Multispore!




isn't working with clones supposed to be a lot better ? isolates too but that takes a lot more work , right ?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: dmppb]
    #26446276 - 01/22/20 12:26 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

But you don’t know what you’re cloning till it grows out. MS seems to give fairly similar results each time.

Maybe you cloned a culture that doesn’t fruit, doesn’t produce the right alkaloids, etc.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26446291 - 01/22/20 12:33 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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But you don’t know what you’re cloning till it grows out. MS seems to give fairly similar results each time.

Maybe you cloned a culture that doesn’t fruit, doesn’t produce the right alkaloids, etc.




if you cloned a mushroom, you didn't clone a non fruiting culture


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #26446311 - 01/22/20 12:44 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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Quote:

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But you don’t know what you’re cloning till it grows out. MS seems to give fairly similar results each time.

Maybe you cloned a culture that doesn’t fruit, doesn’t produce the right alkaloids, etc.




if you cloned a mushroom, you didn't clone a non fruiting culture




Ok. But you could have a culture that BARELY fruits. It’s not like clone cultures produce fruit identical to the donor🤷🏻‍♂️.

Also you can get a clone culture that’s low potency, highly susceptible to contams, blobbing, late-pinning, etc. from a tub that exhibits 0 of these traits.
Just like you can clone a PE blob and end up growing normal-looking, avg potency cubes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26446326 - 01/22/20 12:49 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Contams blobbling late pinning ECT are conditional not genetic lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #26446333 - 01/22/20 12:51 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Blobbing has nothing to do with genetics? I thought PE will always pin later and fruit slower...

Also, can’t one argue that even a culture that grows faster is more contam resistant, just because it gives less chance for contams to germinate/spread?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey] * 1
    #26446336 - 01/22/20 12:52 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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PrimalSoup said:
:ilold:  I think I'd be dying at 8 g dried of some of these candidates lately...

I got pretty fried as it was - trying to watch a movie and getting all :utterconfusion:



Quote:

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Quote:

A.k.a said:
Yeah if I had bought PE from somebody without knowing about them, between the atypical look and the potency I would’ve 100% thought somebody bought regular mushrooms and injected them with some type or research chem lol.



Haha. Man I miss 5MEO-MIPT. The good ol days of research chems.


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spiritlands said:
Does thin stems mean not enough fae in a mono tub? Cubes.



I have had some flushed that were super thin from genetics that are normally not. I think FAE was a big part of the problem but they didn't have fuzzy feet which is what I hear is the normal indicatorfor lack of FAE. However, I also recent realized (will be heading to confessions after this) that my light timer had been switch from "timer" to "on" at some point so for an unknown period of time, all my tubs and jars were on a 24\7 light schedule. I doubt you are having this same issue but I think that may have played into my problem as well as the lack of FAE. The tub after the one in question was the same genetics but much 'meatier". I changed multiple variables so can't say for sure what the cause was but I suppose the point of this unnecessarily long comment is that yes I believe a lack of FAE can lead to skinny\thin stipes on the fruits. Hope that helps :smile:





Thanks. I usually get real meaty fruits from this strain but the first fruits in my mono had thick bases but they got skinny as they matured. I prob could use an extra light, my light mostly shines in the Martha.

This is the tub a couple days ago. Picked these early birds last night hopefully I'm on track for a good flush. The other tub looks ideal, this one just happened to fruit first. It had rhizos climbing an inch up the walls. The wall with fruits was up against the wall of my gh maybe there's a temp gradient or diff airflow right there. This is my first mono with cubes, still learning.

I extracted 10g of dried cubes and ate .12g of extract as a test dose, didn't come down for 12 hrs ;-}>
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: feldman114]
    #26446343 - 01/22/20 12:55 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

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But you don’t know what you’re cloning till it grows out. MS seems to give fairly similar results each time.

Maybe you cloned a culture that doesn’t fruit, doesn’t produce the right alkaloids, etc.




if you cloned a mushroom, you didn't clone a non fruiting culture




Ok. But you could have a culture that BARELY fruits. It’s not like clone cultures produce fruit identical to the donor🤷🏻‍♂️.

Also you can get a clone culture that’s low potency, highly susceptible to contams, blobbing, late-pinning, etc. from a tub that exhibits 0 of these traits.
Just like you can clone a PE blob and end up growing normal-looking, avg potency cubes.



Most of what you said is just plain incorrect. What is true is that a blob clone can produce normal PE fruits. Clone almost always have just a couple of possible phenotypes, and the smaller the clone sample the less phenotypes.

You can’t take a clone that’s less susceptible to contamination, and if you actually watch your desired clone you won’t get late pinning samples either. As for potency, eat the stem of the fruit u wanna clone and then save the cap. Clone it if you feel anything.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26446358 - 01/22/20 01:01 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Cloning PE blobs can’t result in normal-potency, normal-looking cubes?

Everything else I read in other threads, but that part I know as a matter of fact, from very recent experience.


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