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TedsDead


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26424172 - 01/09/20 08:53 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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p9hu7 said: Shouldn't be an issue other than it will darken the agar and possible boil over, it won't ruin it though.
I have a smaller pc for running agar while I do grains. Super convenient but may be prohibitively expensive to buy solely for that purpose.

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TedsDead said: lysol works well also. at this commercial orchid farm I visited they sprayed their hoods down with ethanol before every use. seemed over kill to me but guess it works
I used to spray mine with lysol, haven't done that in ages and it hasn't made a difference.
yeah, I dont currently practice this on the regular but if your paranoid about trich on your hood then might as well
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26424177 - 01/09/20 08:55 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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Yeah man, do whatever makes you comfortable.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26424197 - 01/09/20 09:11 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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Posted in mush cult first as media bottles and agar relate to mush cult, but thread was deleted. (No hard feelings wildernessjunkie, I even left an apology in my post if it was not suited for mush cult ) Amazon is currently offering 3 500ml borosilicate media bottles for $15.99. I was made aware by a member in the LAGM2020 thread and couldn't pass up a chance for more media bottles at that price. Figured I'm not the only one so wanted to share.
I'll put link below and also throw this into the cult gen discussion thread. I know a lot of people don't make it to pub very often.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07H275DGN?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image
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I bought some of those last... June maybe? They're pretty much always that 15.99 price, as far as I've noticed.
There was some discussion in the Midnight Mycology thread a while back about the quality.
My own take on it:
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I think the doubt is that they're even borosilicate. And the manufacturing consistency. I bought them, too. I haven't dipped them in mineral oil to confirm or deny the borosilicate makeup. I'll say: - They're thick glass. I've run them through the PC five times now. No breaks. I do make sure to either let them cool in the PC or only contact them with somewhat less hot water (probably still a ~100ºF drop though...) - 1 of 3 caps does not secure properly. It seems to be the cap, not the neck threading. - The marked measurements seem to be accurate and consistent, only based off of a Pyrex brand measuring cup. - I've had media sitting in one for over a month now. It has not contaminated. - Time travel, I'd probably spend 3x more on a trusted brand.
Change five times to... maybe 10? I dunno. I've made LC's in them and used them for pouring. They're still holding up. The one still has a bunk lid (I think), but it doesn't effect anything, I just know to use it right away. I'll have to buy some GL45 lids and see if it helps.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
#26424220 - 01/09/20 09:27 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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I had seen similar one for slightly more than that price ($8 and change each I believe), but they had horrible reviews. Many people said that were visible defects in the glass and several people said that they shattered in the PC. It may just be not enough people have used these yet to give as many bad reviews, but these actually had mostly good reviews and 4star rating. Last one I saw was like 2.5. If it is the same seller\manufacture, it may be there was a bad batch made. I spent $30+ on 2 before so I'm willing to take a chance on 3 for $16.
Appreciate the input footpath. Hopefully they work out.
Edited by Randalf the Grey (01/09/20 09:28 AM)
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TedsDead


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https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/HGMC500
I get 1 and 2 liter pitchers tho. and as was pointed out to me: you dont want to exceed half of the volume of the container to avoid boil-over
I really like these for pouring agar lately. just foil the top and never spill a drop!
many brands manufacture these just gotta be pp5 -
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26424258 - 01/09/20 09:48 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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Those have been brought up fairly recently, I can't remember if it was you or not. I've become very fond of PCing agar ahead of time though reheating it in the microwave. Saves time, and makes it easier for me to control the temp.
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TedsDead


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Randalf the Grey said: Those have been brought up fairly recently, I can't remember if it was you or not. I've become very fond of PC and agar ahead of time though reheating it in the microwave. Saves time, and makes it easier for me to control the temp.
at what stage are you pouring your plates then? pre-pours?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26424280 - 01/09/20 09:56 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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No, pouring plates in SAB.
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TedsDead


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ah, same procedure then. just take the foil off when you would take the cap off
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26424313 - 01/09/20 10:14 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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I wouldn't want to store that in the fridge with just foil over it. Or have you done so? I figured with nothing but foil covering it it's sure to get contaminated while sitting in the fridge for weeks at a time
I don't have a dedicated fridge for mycology, so everything is stored in a drawer in my fridge with all the other food
Edited by Randalf the Grey (01/09/20 10:17 AM)
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TedsDead


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I have. I usually just make the amount that im going to use for the session and use it all tho.
its all on your foil wrapping skillz if it contams in the fridge or not. I used to keep it in the fridge and then scoop out a teaspoon for each of my pre-pour plates. havent been pre-pouring lately tho
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26424370 - 01/09/20 10:47 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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Yeah, I don't trust my foil wrapping skills that much. I actually absolutely hate wrapping things in foil. Why I was so excited recently to find out I don't need to wrap my grain jars anymore. The only thing I use foil for now is making prints and media bottles because I don't modify my lids. But that is only long enough to tighten lid when I remove it from PC. Then I just stack them on their side in my fridge drawer until needed. Was thinking I may modify these new bottle and keep my current one as are, I just hate making irreversible changes.
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TedsDead


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Randalf the Grey said: Yeah, I don't trust my foil wrapping skills that much. I actually absolutely hate wrapping things in foil. Why I was so excited recently to find out I don't need to wrap my grain jars anymore. The only thing I use foil for now is making prints and media bottles because I don't modify my lids. But that is only long enough to tighten lid when I remove it from PC. Then I just stack them on their side in my fridge drawer until needed. Was thinking I may modify these new bottle and keep my current one as are, I just hate making irreversible changes.
I kinda dont see the point in that if you have to heat it up to use later? are just keeping it sterile after PC and then the microwave is just to re-heat not re-sterilize? gotcha
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26424396 - 01/09/20 11:02 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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My procedure is as follows: Weight dry ingredients in bottle Add water, shake to mix Tighten cap, wrap with foil, loosen cap 1\4-ish turn PC, let cool in PC Open PC, tighten lid, put extra in fridge
When needed: Remove foil (if I haven't already but figure there's no reason to not leave it on until this point) Heat in microwave in 1.5-2 minute intervals (take me 3 heatings but may vary depending on wattage) Give it a quick shake\swirl, then SOP for pouring in SAB; wipe with iso and such
Microwave is solely for heat. The same premade bottles could be melted in a hot water bath but microwave is faster. Much easier to get work done in the time frame in usually working with. I.E. after work, before work, between other tasks.
I found out by accident the other day the perfect combination forgetting just the right temp to pour. If I do 3 2 minutes heatings then pull it out of the microwave, smoke a bowl and forget about it until it is still liquid but just starting to thicken, then pop it back in the microwave for 30 seconds it comes out feeling like a warm coffee mug in your hand and pouring absolutely beautifully. Seems a little convoluted but my normal routine when I get home is to smoke a bowl so it works out nicely for me for after work myco work.
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I usually cook a couple extra media bottles and melt and pour as needed.
Not sure how it could save you 5 hours though when it only takes me like 1.5-2 to make pc and pour 40 plates.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26424428 - 01/09/20 11:12 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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90mins PC the grain jars that are in there, 4 hours to cool before I could start next run.
I was not saying this saves me 5 hours every time I make agar. I was speaking to the question of having to redo my agar if the 90min run I had just started was too much for them. Scenario specific 5hours saved if PCing with the grain works out.
Edited by Randalf the Grey (01/09/20 11:15 AM)
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mushboy
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Your PC takes 4hrs to cool?
My aa915 cools and is back on the burner loaded up in like 45min
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26424442 - 01/09/20 11:21 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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Yeah it's 3-4 hours before things are cool enough to handle. Not 3-4 until pressure hits 0. I always let them come all the way down in PC.
Either way, run is finished now and consensus is agar will be fine save for a little darker so no worries. I appreciate the input on the issue from the collective.
Edited by Randalf the Grey (01/09/20 11:23 AM)
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I pop shit out the second it hits zero. 4hr turnaround damn bro
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