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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus] 1
#26419484 - 01/06/20 03:03 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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AyePlus said: Haha yeah because caps loves oats and IME oats are always a little bacterial. I was growing with them for the past year and thats why I developed that method. Switched to wheat/ rye and millet for master jars recently and I’m never going back, everything just looks so much better. I’ll pay the extra couple bucks a bag for spawn that looks better every time no problem...
SO MUCH YES! I also recently switched from oats to millet. Shit is FIRE!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: badsponge]
#26419651 - 01/06/20 04:54 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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I just prepped some blank spore syringes. I like to wrap them up in a "Foil Taco" while they cool and to keep them clean.
Anyone else do this?
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I usually PC syringes in a jar, and just let them cool in the PC. Open PC, tighten lid,remove jar.
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Ive been using the "boiling pot tek", I forget the official name. Works great in my experience.
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Randalf the Grey said: I usually PC syringes in a jar, and just let them cool in the PC. Open PC, tighten lid,remove jar.
i do that, i also wrap in tin foil, i have large glass culture tubes that i put my scapels in, each tube holding 1 scapel. i wrap the tubes with foil and open in the SAB, i still flame the blade obviously before working but i like not having to unwrap foil inside the SAB. culture tubes do the trick for me at least
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Yeah I always wrap them when I go that route
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26419752 - 01/06/20 05:55 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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I've got 2 quarts of grain that are fully colonized with the same thing. One is bright white throughout and the other has some liquid that appeared in the last 2 days. It was bright white before the liquid appeared so it would seem there's a fight of some kind happening.
I was planning on mixing these into a small mono but at this point I feel like it would be better to do two shoeboxes. Should I toss the one jar?
Opinions?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: F-Bomb]
#26419779 - 01/06/20 06:13 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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I would spawn them separately at best. May still get some fruits out of the iffy one, but wouldn't risk mixing them. I am still quite new to this so please take this only as anecdotal evidence but if the spawn still smells like mushrooms when you open it, I wouldn't throw it out just yet, but wouldn't mix them either.
Edited by Randalf the Grey (01/06/20 07:04 PM)
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Randalf the Grey said: I would spawn them separately at best. May still get some fruits out of the iffy one, but wouldn't risk mixing them. I am still quite new to this so please take this only as anecdotal evidence but if the spawn still smells like mushrooms when you open it, I would throw it out just yet, but wouldn't mix them either.
Yeah I think you're right about mixing. I'll probably let it sit another few days and see what happens. Worst case it goes in the compost bin.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: F-Bomb]
#26420258 - 01/07/20 01:07 AM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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If I clone a PE blob can I expect a tub of blobs or is it one of those things I'll have to grow out to know for sure?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1] 1
#26420519 - 01/07/20 07:56 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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What's up everyone?! Hope the new year is treating you all well. Thanks for all your help in answering my questions here and there. My first tub is finally fruiting.
From the start this grow was kinda sketchy. The jars had a lot of moisture and when I finally spawned to bulk it looked like this:

I thought it was a wrap.
But here we are about a week later:

I'm going to clone this big guy in the corner:

I'm going to start a journal from start to finish with this clone I take.
Much Love!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: iEnter] 1
#26420632 - 01/07/20 09:26 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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From RR
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"By cloning a mushroom fruit body, you're sure to be getting tertiary mycelium, which is the fruiting type. Clone a young, rapidly growing pin for best results. As said, if you clone from a cluster, the offspring will tend to form clusters, and if you clone an individual fruit, the offspring will also follow suit." RR
"Often, the reason later flushes produce only a few larger fruits is because the pinning surface has been torn up by previous picking, and the few remaining spots to pin from are all that's left. . .thus larger fruits form. Cloning these does not insure you'll get large fruits next time.
That said, large fruits are not desirable. Smaller fruits have more active product per gram than larger ones, so try to produce larger flushes of smaller fruits. When cloning, select a young, rapidly growing fruit for best results. You want a fruit that is rapidly dividing cells, so it will take off quickly on agar. I prefer to clone from clusters, because they'll tend to produce clusters on future flushes, giving the volume desired, but with smaller and more desirable fruits." RR
Edited by Inthepit (01/07/20 10:25 AM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26420759 - 01/07/20 10:39 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Inthepit said: From RR
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"By cloning a mushroom fruit body, you're sure to be getting tertiary mycelium, which is the fruiting type. Clone a young, rapidly growing pin for best results. As said, if you clone from a cluster, the offspring will tend to form clusters, and if you clone an individual fruit, the offspring will also follow suit." RR
"Often, the reason later flushes produce only a few larger fruits is because the pinning surface has been torn up by previous picking, and the few remaining spots to pin from are all that's left. . .thus larger fruits form. Cloning these does not insure you'll get large fruits next time.
That said, large fruits are not desirable. Smaller fruits have more active product per gram than larger ones, so try to produce larger flushes of smaller fruits. When cloning, select a young, rapidly growing fruit for best results. You want a fruit that is rapidly dividing cells, so it will take off quickly on agar. I prefer to clone from clusters, because they'll tend to produce clusters on future flushes, giving the volume desired, but with smaller and more desirable fruits." RR
Thank you for this! Really glad I read that before I started doing this cloning.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26420779 - 01/07/20 10:50 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Inthepit said: From RR
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"By cloning a mushroom fruit body, you're sure to be getting tertiary mycelium, which is the fruiting type. Clone a young, rapidly growing pin for best results. As said, if you clone from a cluster, the offspring will tend to form clusters, and if you clone an individual fruit, the offspring will also follow suit." RR
"Often, the reason later flushes produce only a few larger fruits is because the pinning surface has been torn up by previous picking, and the few remaining spots to pin from are all that's left. . .thus larger fruits form. Cloning these does not insure you'll get large fruits next time.
That said, large fruits are not desirable. Smaller fruits have more active product per gram than larger ones, so try to produce larger flushes of smaller fruits. When cloning, select a young, rapidly growing fruit for best results. You want a fruit that is rapidly dividing cells, so it will take off quickly on agar. I prefer to clone from clusters, because they'll tend to produce clusters on future flushes, giving the volume desired, but with smaller and more desirable fruits." RR
Was this a response to me? If so this doesnt help me. I'm asking about blobs in specific I know how to clone and chose a specimen. Thanks for your reply though.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26420795 - 01/07/20 11:01 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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You can get regular shrooms from a blob clone.
Which is weird now that I think about it cuz I thought that’s how enigma and tidal wave were created.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26420808 - 01/07/20 11:08 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Although peeps don't always seem to reply to their intended recipient, this was, as you can see a reply to iEnter.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26420811 - 01/07/20 11:09 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Tidal wave is a b+ and pe cross. Enigma is a mutant strain from a Tidal wave grow. Blobs are not genetic, we know this because you can clone a fruit and still get blobs for your first flush or vice versa, blobs also only happen on your first flush
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26420812 - 01/07/20 11:10 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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PE is an enigma all by itself. Some folks even argue that cloning a blob is the best way to get non blobs? WTF. I've cloned blobs and gotten.... More PE. Sometimes she blobs a bit and sometimes not.
I highly recommend proper casing when growing PE.
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Thats crazy a cross with b+ made giant spike blobs.
I’ve only run 3 pe shoeboxes, 2 cased one not, and got 320+ flushes from the cased ones and a handful of marbles from the other.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: A.k.a]
#26420829 - 01/07/20 11:23 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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That's why i recommend casing
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