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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398249 - 12/23/19 08:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you tested your lc you wouldnt have failures like that and If you want to do hours more work and extra PC runs for jars then go ahead. Its a theoretical situation, (at least for a couple more years until one of the ststes decriminalizes) so it doesnt seem much harder but as someone who’s grown small scale commercial gourmets I’ll tell you its apretty big difference once you get above 100 jars going, not to mention the cost of the jars and washing them... Regardless, Either route will get you there, one is shorter but more dangerous, however the danger level stays the same whethere you noc 1 pint or a gallon of LC. My main point is LC makes more sense on a commercial scale, there is a reason why the majority of gourmet mushrooms are grown using it, its cheap and easy to produce alot in a small space.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26398299 - 12/23/19 09:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I like the green one
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I usually dont smoke in the room, sometimes the occasional dab but most of the time I smoke outside or with the door open.

Im more concerned about the outside air, I have to walk outside to get to the room.



I'll take a rip halfway through my sterile work. Shit, the torch is right there. SAB was on a desk in my room. Closed door and window before work. Dab smoke wont go into the sab unless negative pressure is in there. In fact, you cud be gorilla fucking a gigantic sporulating death shroom in the same room as your sab, You jst cant have air flow in or out of it.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26398413 - 12/23/19 11:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

For me, LC is just for fun

JOSEX POKE....JOSEX POKE  :hamsterdance:

Cool to see such a tiny little piece grow so many fruits.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SunnyDayze]
    #26398521 - 12/24/19 02:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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For me, LC is just for fun

JOSEX POKE....JOSEX POKE  :hamsterdance:

Cool to see such a tiny little piece grow so many fruits.




+1 for the josex poke


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #26398721 - 12/24/19 06:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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If you tested your lc you wouldnt have failures like that and If you want to do hours more work and extra PC runs for jars then go ahead. Its a theoretical situation, (at least for a couple more years until one of the ststes decriminalizes) so it doesnt seem much harder but as someone who’s grown small scale commercial gourmets I’ll tell you its apretty big difference once you get above 100 jars going, not to mention the cost of the jars and washing them... Regardless, Either route will get you there, one is shorter but more dangerous, however the danger level stays the same whethere you noc 1 pint or a gallon of LC. My main point is LC makes more sense on a commercial scale, there is a reason why the majority of gourmet mushrooms are grown using it, its cheap and easy to produce alot in a small space.




I thought bags were nocced up with agar wedges.  I wedge 10 bags ect.  100 plates 1000 bags but in rotation.  Length of time taken to colonise doesnt matter once yo have rotation in place as you can time bags to colonise every 2 days if you wanted.

Its not that much work making 100 agar plates and no risk



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398776 - 12/24/19 07:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone ever thought of using one of these to pour agar. I sick of burning my hands and I just watched a guy say h uses these for his commercial business.  easy to pour and you don't burn your hands......genius!!!!

https://caterspeed.co.uk/product/measuring-jug-1ltr/?gclid=CjwKCAiAi4fwBRBxEiwAEO8_HtwVgYlJDprZ2WPeadl95FxozWENBNF0_9gXKF_2pfkjgpcX1p-XaBoCmDsQAvD_BwE


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398782 - 12/24/19 07:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have been wondering about using quat instead of bleach solution. Would be good for misting SAB and SAR. Anyone else using it?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26398791 - 12/24/19 08:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I have been wondering about using quat instead of bleach solution. Would be good for misting SAB and SAR. Anyone else using it?


  Washing up liquid is best as this is very sticky and all you want to do is get the spore to stick to that, not kill it.  I quick wipe with iso 70% will kill bacteria.  Most contamination comes from you so make sure that at the very least your arms and hands are clean.  I used to have a routine that left me sitting in front of my Sab slightly wet from the shower I just had in my towel....lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398798 - 12/24/19 08:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Anyone ever thought of using one of these to pour agar. I sick of burning my hands and I just watched a guy say h uses these for his commercial business.  easy to pour and you don't burn your hands......genius!!!!

https://caterspeed.co.uk/product/measuring-jug-1ltr/?gclid=CjwKCAiAi4fwBRBxEiwAEO8_HtwVgYlJDprZ2WPeadl95FxozWENBNF0_9gXKF_2pfkjgpcX1p-XaBoCmDsQAvD_BwE




somebody mentioned something similar and either this or a different thread recently. They caught a lot of flack for it. I believe the reasoning is, the large opening and no lid means the surface would be exposed to air and a greater risk of contamination. If using a flow hood, or some way to cover it reliably, this would lower that risk for sure. As for me, using an SAB, I absolutely love my 500ml media bottle. I was using pint jars for a long time oh, and they are just a bit unwieldy and having to hold the lid on top while pouring created issues. The media bottle has a narrow opening easy too poor doesn't overhang the dish while pouring, and I've never actually burn myself while pouring agar. my hands are a bit calloused over so that might have something to do with it, but for real. If it's too hot to pour then why pour it?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398802 - 12/24/19 08:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Randalf the Grey said:
I have been wondering about using quat instead of bleach solution. Would be good for misting SAB and SAR. Anyone else using it?


  Washing up liquid is best as this is very sticky and all you want to do is get the spore to stick to that, not kill it.  I quick wipe with iso 70% will kill bacteria.  Most contamination comes from you so make sure that at the very least your arms and hands are clean.  I used to have a routine that left me sitting in front of my Sab slightly wet from the shower I just had in my towel....lol




I just hate using soaping water in SAB. Makes it super hard to see through after just one or two misting.
My work room is effectively still, but there are some holes that allow dust and such to fall from the attic near the chimney at times. Also mice like to scurry around (it's an old crappy house) so I Lysol the shit out of it as well as misting SAB to try to minimize risk. I can get gallons of quat a lot cheaper than Lysol and wouldn't stain flooring and walls like bleach could.
Yeah, I wash up to elbows, then iso,the glove then iso again when starting work. Just thinking of other options.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26398820 - 12/24/19 08:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've never tried it but wondering if a smhuvbox might be good for you. Like I said, never tried, they may great or they might suck ass


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398838 - 12/24/19 08:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Edmunter said:
Anyone ever thought of using one of these to pour agar. I sick of burning my hands and I just watched a guy say h uses these for his commercial business.  easy to pour and you don't burn your hands......genius!!!!

https://caterspeed.co.uk/product/measuring-jug-1ltr/?gclid=CjwKCAiAi4fwBRBxEiwAEO8_HtwVgYlJDprZ2WPeadl95FxozWENBNF0_9gXKF_2pfkjgpcX1p-XaBoCmDsQAvD_BwE




If it burns your hands, why not wait to cool down a bit? It also helps to completely get rid of condensation :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26398839 - 12/24/19 08:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I've never tried it but wondering if a smhuvbox might be good for you. Like I said, never tried, they may great or they might suck ass



Sorry, search didn't help me here. Smhuvbox?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26398840 - 12/24/19 08:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've been reading about people throwing their left over substrate and agar into soil.

So I'm going to start mixing them in with my indoor plants.

Then today when I was boiling some oats I had an idea. Use the oat water to water my plants with the leftover substrate in them.

I'm going to water a couple of them with regular tap water as well to compare.

The only thing I'm worried about is the oat water attracting/feeding bugs and other contams


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: iEnter]
    #26398842 - 12/24/19 08:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I've been reading about people throwing their left over substrate and agar into soil.

So I'm going to start mixing them in with my indoor plants.

Then today when I was boiling some oats I had an idea. Use the oat water to water my plants with the leftover substrate in them.

I'm going to water a couple of them with regular tap water as well to compare.

The only thing I'm worried about is the oat water attracting/feeding bugs and other contams




I mixed old subs into a large planter on my porch and got several fruits out of it before it got cold. I would be hesitant about watering with grain water though. It seems like just asking for bacteria and other contaminants to take hold. :2cents:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: iEnter]
    #26398846 - 12/24/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It will definitely attract bugs and maybe some contams but if you’ve got houseplants so will those so dont stress it. The water is great plant food. There will be a noticeable difference in growth.


Its not gonna help your spent subs though.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398852 - 12/24/19 08:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I thought bags were nocced up with agar wedges.  I wedge 10 bags ect.  100 plates 1000 bags but in rotation.  Length of time taken to colonise doesnt matter once yo have rotation in place as you can time bags to colonise every 2 days if you wanted.

Its not that much work making 100 agar plates and no risk





You do you boo-boo. I think theres probably a reason why absolutely no commercial farms do it like that. Maybe just the higher technical skill required. Many commercial farms can’t even make their own spawn because its too technically difficult and buy in al ltheir grain :shrug:

Dunno if it really need repeating but I dont fuck with LC’s because I’m not growing at the scale where they make themselves more practical. But at a certain scale I would. Gfy


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Randalf the Grey]
    #26398853 - 12/24/19 08:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I've never tried it but wondering if a smhuvbox might be good for you. Like I said, never tried, they may great or they might suck ass



Sorry, search didn't help me here. Smhuvbox?



Here you go
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13996661#13996661


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26398875 - 12/24/19 09:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Anyone ever thought of using one of these to pour agar. I sick of burning my hands and I just watched a guy say h uses these for his commercial business.  easy to pour and you don't burn your hands......genius!!!!

https://caterspeed.co.uk/product/measuring-jug-1ltr/?gclid=CjwKCAiAi4fwBRBxEiwAEO8_HtwVgYlJDprZ2WPeadl95FxozWENBNF0_9gXKF_2pfkjgpcX1p-XaBoCmDsQAvD_BwE





I use something very similar.  works great.  fst andI dont spill a drop


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead] * 1
    #26398878 - 12/24/19 09:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty sure the guy at Ace hardware was just telling me which bird seed he prefers to use for his mush cult.


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