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rickyswamps
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#26360544 - 12/04/19 07:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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GypsyCurse said: It'd prolly be fine, however more wud be better in my opinion. I have found they like a shitload of bright ass 5000k led without harm.
I have read LED are inferior than fluorescent though.
I just want to have plenty of light without going overboard, i dont know if excess light is problematic. Also dont want to have excessive consumption
LED's work great. Its old information that fluorescent are superior. I don't know if it is because LED technology is so much better now (getting the color spectrums nailed), or people were just scared to try it. I have the book "Organic Mushroom Farming and Mycroremediation" by Tradd Cotter and it praises the use of LEDS.
They are now growing tons of bud with LEDs. So much less energy consumption. Just get 6500K bulbs if you can, I have 6000K bulbs and they work great. Had fluorescents before and can't tell the difference with the change.
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Sankhara
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: rickyswamps]
#26360720 - 12/04/19 09:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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LED's work great. Its old information that fluorescent are superior. I don't know if it is because LED technology is so much better now (getting the color spectrums nailed), or people were just scared to try it. I have the book "Organic Mushroom Farming and Mycroremediation" by Tradd Cotter and it praises the use of LEDS.
They are now growing tons of bud with LEDs. So much less energy consumption. Just get 6500K bulbs if you can, I have 6000K bulbs and they work great. Had fluorescents before and can't tell the difference with the change.
Hmm... i read about many people going back to fluorescent. I am currently running a 7W led of about 5000K and i feel it is not getting the light it needs.
What do the rest of people here think?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#26360741 - 12/04/19 09:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushrooms don’t need light like plants. I used to tape keychain flashlights to my tubs, when I got a bunch for free from work. They were like 1-2watts max. Didn’t see any difference after switching to white-light cfl’s.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: feldman114]
#26360838 - 12/04/19 10:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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also keep in mind distance from light bulb. If a key light is 15 inches away, and a light bulb is 14 feet.. thats quite a difference. Also, I'm growing in low profile tubs now, and there is very little clear sidewall for the light to get in....
I agree it isn't very important, but I believe better yields have been proven over and over with additional light.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro]
#26360847 - 12/04/19 10:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Huh, I must’ve missed those threads. I’m gonna double my current wattage and see what happens.
Can anyone give an estimate of the possible yield gains, if all other variables remain unchanged? Like closer to 3% or 10%?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: feldman114]
#26360854 - 12/04/19 10:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not a matter of what they need it's what they do best with. Try that keychain light with some oysters and see how happy you are
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26360900 - 12/04/19 11:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think I've noticed any difference with lights or without. They prob get enough light from me staring at shit with a flashlight. I've used full spectrum fluorescents and I've used no light source just ambient. For cubes at least lighting is the last of my concerns.
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: feldman114]
#26360909 - 12/04/19 11:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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feldman114 said: Huh, I must’ve missed those threads. I’m gonna double my current wattage and see what happens.
Can anyone give an estimate of the possible yield gains, if all other variables remain unchanged? Like closer to 3% or 10%?
Every culture is different. I have a PE culture that doesnt give a fuck about light. They all on top in boxes. Each of them 24" led light bars is 13w:
 I cud easily double the wattage and be fine.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26361002 - 12/04/19 12:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So... the only consensus is that lights are good but as far as wattage goes everybody does it its own way?
I will stay with my current LED then
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#26361091 - 12/04/19 01:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yup, basically. Shrooms are phototropic, not photosynthetic like green plants. They will bend to the light and can grow much healthier with light, but we dnt knw why. I've got some theories.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26361148 - 12/04/19 02:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was shocked how much they’ll move for the light. I forgot a shoebox with inch and a half pins and left it away from the window, next day they were all tilted like 45 degrees toward the window.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26361520 - 12/04/19 05:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Camera93 said: I have a pint of PE spawn that is finished colonizing MS genetics I also have a pin from a plate on agar for an easy clone. My question is if you would bother expanding the MS pint out to 5 quarts Or run the pint in some smaller containers to get some more clone options. I would use these again but w/o the martha

Looks like your question was drowned out by the lights. But I'm interested in what these guys have to say and what is a "martha"?
Edited by Inthepit (12/04/19 05:36 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26361524 - 12/04/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Camera93 said: I have a pint of PE spawn that is finished colonizing MS genetics I also have a pin from a plate on agar for an easy clone. My question is if you would bother expanding the MS pint out to 5 quarts Or run the pint in some smaller containers to get some more clone options. I would use these again but w/o the martha
 I think it was like 1qt to about 18 of them deli dishes, I'd take the pint to like 5 maybe Sure I could do both, expand and search. Just curious as to how you all would go about it
I would make a glc then spawn
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26361540 - 12/04/19 05:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cron, why u angry?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26361544 - 12/04/19 05:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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They changed my favorite ramen noodle from spicy to chilli at the dollar store like a bunch of fuck faces
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26361562 - 12/04/19 06:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bums me out when i take comfort in simple things being consistent and then some turd taco has to change it. Fucking perfect the way it was.
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Camera93
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inthepit]
#26361629 - 12/04/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Camera93 said: I have a pint of PE spawn that is finished colonizing MS genetics I also have a pin from a plate on agar for an easy clone. My question is if you would bother expanding the MS pint out to 5 quarts Or run the pint in some smaller containers to get some more clone options. I would use these again but w/o the martha

Looks like your question was drowned out by the lights. But I'm interested in what these guys have to say and what is a "martha"?
Martha =green house
 I think Martha Stewert made a 4 tier indoor one and now we call them all marthas (unless I'm mistaken on this?)
Cron, would I shoot the sterile water thru the SFD or just pop top? IDK if its even clean enough to expand
I was thinking of something like this for the container w/o the GH:
 but there pry wont be enough head space. I just mocked it up, would use cling wrap to secure the 2 dishes together, allowing GE while it consolidated, then i can put some pin holes around the sub level for FAE boost when ready to fruit. based off Lotkids PE tips, (just the tip ) and Caps said something about cling wrap being great for allowing GE but not moisture loss, so I thought it a good choice during consolidation either way I got about a week before I do anything, counting today as day 1 of full grain colonization
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26361658 - 12/04/19 07:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would just throw those things in a tub with the lid cracked and keep the walls moist. No? I like your style tho. Im going to run something similar with portions cups I steal from work.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Camera93]
#26361660 - 12/04/19 07:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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That will work and once fruits are too big just move them( I use an old mini mono )
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staytrippy420 said: I would just throw those things in a tub with the lid cracked and keep the walls moist. No? I like your style tho. Im going to run something similar with portions cups I steal from work.
Yeah i had that idea and when I got home and mocked it up, only 2 fit in a shoebox lol I do have a 32qt tho 
*would be edit and before I can post my revaltion on having a bigger tub, I see cron beat me to it lol
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Edited by Camera93 (12/04/19 07:10 PM)
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