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Re: general cult discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26296173 - 11/03/19 12:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah honestly i would go 1:12, only because winter is coming and my midwestern ass has an innate urge to stock up on everything when it gets cold :shrug: i didnt expect it to transfer to mycology but hey at least i always have spawn!!

If you were to take 3 of them to 36 qts, and spawn 2, you should have a rotation on your hands. 3qt to 36qt, allow to colonize, while you spawn the remaining 2 jars to a tub and grab a clone. Then by the time your clone is grown out and ready for grain you should be starting to spawn, especially with how fast this specific culture is moving.

The pics look amazing my dude, it looks like your pretty clear of bacteria even which isnt very common.

My only advice, besides doing a massive spawn expansion, would be to limit your tubs to 3qt spawn, in case any of them do something wierd. That 12 3qt mono's by the end of your spawn and you should pull AT LEAST 2 oz dry from each tub.

OBviously alot of people do really massive tubs but i really like doing 3qt spawn to one of those 27qt latching gasket sterilites that bod uses for unmodded, and i just take the gasket off and put the lid like normal. Usually have to flip it after the pinset is it because it's too wet.



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Yeah honestly i would go 1:12, only because winter is coming and my midwestern ass has an innate urge to stock up on everything when it gets cold :shrug: i didnt expect it to transfer to mycology but hey at least i always have spawn!!

If you were to take 3 of them to 36 qts, and spawn 2, you should have a rotation on your hands. 3qt to 36qt, allow to colonize, while you spawn the remaining 2 jars to a tub and grab a clone. Then by the time your clone is grown out and ready for grain you should be starting to spawn, especially with how fast this specific culture is moving.

The pics look amazing my dude, it looks like your pretty clear of bacteria even which isnt very common.

My only advice, besides doing a massive spawn expansion, would be to limit your tubs to 3qt spawn, in case any of them do something wierd. That 12 3qt mono's by the end of your spawn and you should pull AT LEAST 2 oz dry from each tub.

OBviously alot of people do really massive tubs but i really like doing 3qt spawn to one of those 27qt latching gasket sterilites that bod uses for unmodded, and i just take the gasket off and put the lid like normal. Usually have to flip it after the pinset is it because it's too wet.




Hang on slow down a little.

Are these clones?

Maybe It would be better to take a couple of these jars and transfer to 6/7 qts each.  They would colonise quicker giving you an easier jar rotation.

If they arent clones id think about another stratergy.

Since my flow hood i have so many clean cultures im finding im running out of things I can put grains in.  ATM im running a 1to 7 jar rotation.  1 millet and 6 rye.  Millet goes to next expansion and rye goes to mono.

How long are you hoping 12 jars from 1 will colonise? Im actually not sure what to do with all these clean plates. Its like in cleaning one culture up you might as well do some other work like take some of the nicer sectors out of the lovely clone you have growing..... its not like you dont have 4 spares....gulp.

My winter like yours is busy and I have a business to run and this..........


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26296387 - 11/03/19 01:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Replyom - Nothing special really. Jst visibly identifiable vexation. Pics look tits dude.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26296760 - 11/03/19 04:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ed, I tend to not really care about space or energy. I don’t like Ike’s going less than a case per qt because then I have left over jars sitting around

I do things the way I do so I can measure as little as possible and take out the prep time.

I think those jars look great and they came from a clean agar culture, so you shouldn’t have a problem expanding them indefinitely. If edmunter has info I don’t then that’s that but that’s just what I would do if I were you

EDIT: ya know what Ed’s right. If those weren’t proven fruiting cultures (clones) I would’nt go as big as I just described.

I would absolutely still expand one of those to 12 jars and fruit the rest


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26296915 - 11/03/19 06:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hi people! Does this millet look right to you?

It soaked about 12 hours then PC. I get a feeling it hasnt swollen enough from what i have seen. Any opinions?



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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26296923 - 11/03/19 06:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It doesnt look swollen up much at all :frown:

Just curious, I've seen a lot of posts with straight millet.  Does it have features preferable to wbs?  It has always struck me as a grain that would be strange to work with due to how small it is but I'm certainly not knocking it, just am curious.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Psicomb]
    #26296929 - 11/03/19 06:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I think people use it because of its small size, more inoculation points. Although it might just be because its easy and/or cheap to get for some


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Psicomb]
    #26296932 - 11/03/19 06:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Psicomvb said:
It doesnt look swollen up much at all :frown:

Just curious, I've seen a lot of posts with straight millet.  Does it have features preferable to wbs?  It has always struck me as a grain that would be strange to work with due to how small it is but I'm certainly not knocking it, just am curious.




Its my first time trying it, lots of people seem to love it. Lots of trusted cultivators here use them as their grain of choice. The only difference really might be the price (WBS vs millet), as far as prep goes it is the exact same procedure.

Personally i would like to save some prep time and choose to go with straight millet as i like to keep things simple, and you cant get simpler than one ingredient :wink:


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26297106 - 11/03/19 08:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I started using it after fighting with grain berries. The whole drying process pisses me off. Gotta set up a mouse trampoline and fan and work with it till its blah blah...

I got strait white millet and prepared it 3 different ways. First a 12hr soak b4 PC like homie. It may take longer to colonize and not get as white at full colonization but it will work. Being not fully cooker that is.

Then i took verum's advice and filled the millet bucket with hot water outta the tap, then boiled water, dumped out the tap, and put in boiling for like 30min, then PC. Also works fine. Mine came out pretty cooked.

Then i tried jst rinsing it, cooking it till i felt it was good, then PC. Works as well.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26297512 - 11/04/19 02:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Ed, I tend to not really care about space or energy. I don’t like Ike’s going less than a case per qt because then I have left over jars sitting around

I do things the way I do so I can measure as little as possible and take out the prep time.

I think those jars look great and they came from a clean agar culture, so you shouldn’t have a problem expanding them indefinitely. If edmunter has info I don’t then that’s that but that’s just what I would do if I were you

EDIT: ya know what Ed’s right. If those weren’t proven fruiting cultures (clones) I would’nt go as big as I just described.

I would absolutely still expand one of those to 12 jars and fruit the rest




Agreed, and id keep this culture going as a ms grow as long as i didnt have a clone culture.  Then when I did id do a side by side for a while before going proven clone only.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26297871 - 11/04/19 08:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I was wondering, if you add two strains to LC would you just get fruits of either strain or would you get a fruit with elements of both strains in it? Due to string wouldn't the mycelium become intertwined?


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26297889 - 11/04/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

you might get different flushes of the different strains like in an ms grow but the spores of the two "strains" need to mate for what your talking about to happen.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26298035 - 11/04/19 10:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Hi people! Does this millet look right to you?

It soaked about 12 hours then PC. I get a feeling it hasnt swollen enough from what i have seen. Any opinions?






To me, who is a beginner, this jar looks too wet. One easy trick to do is to simply press normal kitchen/toilet paper against the wet grains, that will dry out their surface but their insides will still be moist from soak/simmering etc

(Before PC, after soak)


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: meaculpaUIO]
    #26298070 - 11/04/19 10:20 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Hi people! Does this millet look right to you?

It soaked about 12 hours then PC. I get a feeling it hasnt swollen enough from what i have seen. Any opinions?






To me, who is a beginner, this jar looks too wet. One easy trick to do is to simply press normal kitchen/toilet paper against the wet grains, that will dry out their surface but their insides will still be moist from soak/simmering etc

(Before PC, after soak)




Jar was hot AF thats why it looked wet.

Still i dont know wether or not it would be suitable for use or if the seeds didnt soak enough water. Anybody with experience in it, what is your opinion?


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: meaculpaUIO]
    #26298111 - 11/04/19 10:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I inoculated this wbs 8 days ago with Redboy on agar. I haven't shaken it the whole time. I prepared 2000ml dry wbs (rinsed), 1000ml water and the no-soak method. PC 90min. I know there's more wbs than it looks like so I didn't want to shake prematurely. Also the Mycelium is from a print from 2012 and on agar is wasn't very spectacular. It did colonize consistently which is why I went ahead and used it in this bag. I wanted to see if the growth would become more expressive and it has. This is what the agar looked like after the first transfer.

I just shook it. I don't remember how long these bags should take to colonize, id like to have it done in 14 days total.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: spiritlands]
    #26299371 - 11/04/19 07:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Edmunter and gypsycurse!! This is not a clone but it’s a transfer off of the agar culture that did produce a very nice fruiting strain (see my grow log 1). I’ll just do g2g with 1 jar and spawn the other 4.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: replyom]
    #26299389 - 11/04/19 08:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Jars have been fully consolidated since Oct 28.

No pinning has occured.

I first inoculated 4oz jelly jars with Liquid Culture October 1st.

I know I should just be misting + fanning once a day. But I was expecting at least some hyphal knots, or some micro pins.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: SigSaur99]
    #26300277 - 11/05/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

is it a waste of time to go from petrie, to pastyplate to LI?
figure the transfer to pastyplate helps "clean" it or further isolate the culture, I get to keep most of the culture in reserve on the petrie, and I have only every used a pastyplate to tiger drop a puck to blender-less LI.

Or should I just make transfers to new plates and use the doner for LI? :crazy2:

its the dumbest shit I get so hung up on...like when if I should expand to 1 or 5 more plates, when is it good to go. What to do with the plates transferred from
trying not to get to attached to MS plates cause I should be going MS -> clone -> test -> keep performers right?
Or do any of you keep MS plates around to have inoculate ready? :confused:

its like i just cant get into a rhythm to keep it all rolling, forever caching myself with no plates ready and empty tubs lol :wow:

*atm I have a pint master colonizing with MS
I hope to expand that culture out for plenty of spawn while I get these other varieties ready for grain.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #26300307 - 11/05/19 09:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If you have petris then there's no reason to use pastyplates. If your petri culture is clean then you can do whatever you want with it. Take transfers and or blend into LI. Did you inoculate that master with clean agar culture? If so then sounds like all is well.

BigSaur99 did you birth those cakes? Did you dunk and roll? Fanning is unnecessary, and misting may be too depending upon your setup.


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #26300315 - 11/05/19 09:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

yeah the pint was inoculated from dropping the whole puck from pastyplate.
It was clean as far as I can tell, which is hit or miss sometimes lol.
only real iffyness to it is that fact that I PC'd that jar like 3 weeks ago or so. It and a quart jar were controls to be sure my filters were working and that the mold I was getting was all from my shitty technique and not lid failure. But the myc has leaped to the grain so hopefully it isn't to dry

I use the pastyplates almost like a tool, I only have a handful of petries till I get 20 more or buy a case, and I am comfortable squeezing the no pours to drop into grain or water for LI

hows that work with a real plate to LI? Just grab big ole wedge with a blade and transfer like I would to grain?


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Re: general cult discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #26300325 - 11/05/19 10:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Pretty much. Good luck with that master. I have had poor results with G2G in general in my SAB. Apparently I kinda suck in action (that's what she said, right:rofl:). Anyway I'd be worried about ising such an old jar as a master like that, but if it's clean it's clean in theory at least. I would get a case of petris ordered unless you really like pastyplates for whatever reason. I disliked them particularly.


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