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Feasoghorm

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26286276 - 10/30/19 02:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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GypsyCurse said: Huh...I have a PE culture that hates casing. Casing it causes crazy half submerged blobs and barren areas without life.
You think this could possibly have more to do with your climate/growing conditions than the culture or is it one specific pe culture out of many you've grown out.
It's totally possible. I have not grown many.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26286884 - 10/30/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to try and time the casing like frank says but then i did a series of tests with many different PE genetics. Some cased at spawning, some at 80%, some at 90% some at 100%... In the end i decided that casing at spawning worked just as well as casing at any other time. If my casing was accidentally a little heavy in an area or two I'd gently distribute or remove it once it became obvious where the high spots were.
I don't fully understand PE blobs but my experience suggests that a proper casing and genetics are the biggest factors.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: gizmo1]
#26286899 - 10/30/19 11:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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gizmo1 said: Any idea on how well compost works?
I'm going to attempt using compost in the sub mix once these our plates come clean. going off eatyualive's lead: organic compost at home depot 
also following eat's unbucket tek fwiw. trusting the composting to have pasteurized it and no need to heat treat the coir we'll mix in/use with the compost.
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hmm... could my cultures but when I case too early the myc will totally colonize it and I find myself doing more patching than otherwise. this was also only the case with my tubs so environmental factors could be at play as well. my trays always did fine with an early casing.
do you case and birth at spawning verum?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26286985 - 10/30/19 11:31 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure what you mean, exactly. Birth? Yes, when growing straight PE (which a rarely do anymore) I open wide my magical vagina and birth the spawn bag right into the tub. Then i open wide my coco vagina and birth the coir right onto the spawn. Mix her up and then open wide my peat/verm/lime vagina and birth a casing right onto her. PE takes her time so i usually tape the holes and let her colonize mostly before supplying FAE.
Regular cubes don't get cased but do get a top layer and fet fresh air and light from the moment of "birthing".
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 that's a lot of vaginas, verum  do they also clean house, or just do yer penis work?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TeaforTwo] 1
#26287033 - 10/30/19 11:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just the penis work. They actually make quite a mess and leave me to do all the cleaning.
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i can imagine...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TeaforTwo] 1
#26287116 - 10/30/19 12:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol, yeah I meant fruiting at spawning. not birthing I need to smoke a joint
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26287132 - 10/30/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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i'll join ya
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TeaforTwo] 1
#26287335 - 10/30/19 02:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I need one too. Every jar I own is in use, almost every petri dish or the like also and i have been in front of the Flow hood or sterilising or both every day for weeks. I have 4 outdoor patches to tend, and a tun of edible shiz going on I now have a couple of days off because I have to. Im knackered
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26287375 - 10/30/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushboy said: If they wont make it as spawn why would you use it as inoculate?
I wouldn't spawn them due to uncolonized grain from moisture content. But if i keep them sterile it shouldnt completely ruin a slurry right?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26287395 - 10/30/19 02:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
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mushboy said: If they wont make it as spawn why would you use it as inoculate?
I wouldn't spawn them due to uncolonized grain from moisture content. But if i keep them sterile it shouldnt completely ruin a slurry right?
But if its stalled its because of a contamination. Ive never had a clean jar stall on me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26287441 - 10/30/19 02:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not going to pretend to know the answer on this but i do think jars can stall due to lack of water. In this event, a slurry would be fine BUT... it is highly likely that lack of water isn't the problem.... In that scenario, the slurry would be fucked.
I do believe i've had many many jars and bags stall as i was learning to flirt with the line on lack of moisture so that i could use lots of LC. These bags almost always failed to colonize about half of the top of the top layer of grains.
I've had success spawning bags like that, shooting sterile water into the bag and letting it finish and G2Ging them. But i'd never admit to any of that or recommend anyone else do it.
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I underhydrated some millet masters and after G2G they only partially started growth again, but so long as some pf it gets growing and the whole jar colonizes then it's good enough for this batch. I'll be adjusting for the future though.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#26287717 - 10/30/19 05:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I found that grains on that "just dry enough" water content line were hurt if they were not fully boiled in the prep. These unboiled grains act as dehumidifiers when they aren't fully hydrated. Its as if the hard rolling boil broke the grains ability to pull in more water. Just a working theory.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tedoro] 1
#26288548 - 10/30/19 10:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I've been shopping for Martha's and I found this beauty. Look I can even have them assemble it for me, what a great deal!

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: spiritlands] 1
#26288574 - 10/30/19 10:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yo if you’re looking for a lot of room check out the walk in ones. You can’t actually *walk* in it per se but I added a industrial shelf inside and look
 It’s a little big to use as an exotics Martha but you could work it out
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26288586 - 10/30/19 10:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya i was looking at that one and I did buy a 6x6 one like that to put my other Martha inside. I have a huge work area and it's cold, it will be easier for me to keep the walk in gh the right temp and dial in the Martha inside it instead of heat the whole building.
But did you see how much they are charging to assemble it?!
Do you have slits in that gh it does it just breathe through the bottom? And how long does it take to get the humidity up and then how long before it evaporates below 80%? What's your cycle like with one this size?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: spiritlands]
#26288591 - 10/30/19 10:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah than fucking ridiculous. That’s a joke right? These things weigh 20 pounds maximum and take less than an hour to set up. It looks like they’re charging fucking mechanic’s labor rates to put up, what... a plastic kids tent? Fuck that bullshit, and honestly anyone who can afford that AND would do that is no good in My book lol
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