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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: replyom]
    #26260385 - 10/18/19 09:08 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

That thing looks ready to birth! Doesnt really look like it needs much misting.  And why just the corners?  When I do mist I give a couple quick sprays at a distance so to evenly cover the whole tub/sub.  Not just the sides like ive heard some say.

Only zoomed on the 2nd pic. The first tub could use a spritz IMO


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
    #26260707 - 10/18/19 11:36 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Soo... i have a question. I know spawn will tend to shrink as the flushes go. But, should hydrating it make it expand again?

I hydrated a shoebox and it barely expanded if it even did, which leaves me wondering wether or not it took some water or not





I've seen a number of people wondering about this lately. So, let's think about it logically. Does the sub lose a bunch of water during the fruiting. For sure, some evaporates away and a ton goes into the fruits. If your first flush pulls, let's say, for the sake of easy math... 1000 grams and it dries to 90% wet weight, you just took 900 grams of water from the sub. That's all fine and dandy and that water can be added back by dunking or bottom watering... But, what about the 100 grams of mycelial matter that literally came up from the tub and was removed (in the form o fruits)? That's gone and not coming back. Ipso facto, the sub must needs be smaller now... Because it has less mass. This, cuppled with the myc "hugging" the sub equals shrinking sub as time goes on.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26260732 - 10/18/19 11:46 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

i.e. decomposition.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: footpath]
    #26260875 - 10/18/19 12:37 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Here's more examples of that growth. This was from a LI made from fruit gills I think he said
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26260964 - 10/18/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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That thing looks ready to birth! Doesnt really look like it needs much misting.  And why just the corners?  When I do mist I give a couple quick sprays at a distance so to evenly cover the whole tub/sub.  Not just the sides like ive heard some say.

Only zoomed on the 2nd pic. The first tub could use a spritz IMO



Well the surfaces of the corners are much drier looking than the middle, which is expected I think, because that’s where the most FAE is coming from in Unmodified tubs.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26261333 - 10/18/19 03:38 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Wonderfully explained! Thanks verum!


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: replyom]
    #26261344 - 10/18/19 03:41 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I had that problem with unmodded tubs. The edges wud dry and the rest of the surface got insufficiant FAE.
I try as best i can to set things up so that i only mist after the first flush. Sub seems to have a difficult time making little droplets on the surface in subsiquent flushes for some reason.

Must say im pretty happy today. Out of all the sterile work ive done since i started having serious contam issues, 4 plates and 3 jars have gone south on me. About 10%. Not that 10% contamination rate is anything to brag about, seeing as how i had a 3% contam rate b4 i changed my SAB setup. But i feel a bit better. Can relax a bit. Not checking my plates and jars twice a day.

Interesting to watch 4 different varieties colonize millet of 4 different prep methods. Last batch i soaked overnight then simmered it. Came out nice.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26261668 - 10/18/19 06:03 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I has a grow going on right now


I see nor smell no tams and I see a large amount of pins on the sides if the bag, they havent much room to grow as a result.. should I put them in a box?

I dont know what to do this is first time so many have grown on the sides in a bag for me.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Takkaji]
    #26261703 - 10/18/19 06:20 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Takkaji said:
I has a grow going on right now


I see nor smell no tams and I see a large amount of pins on the sides if the bag, they havent much room to grow as a result.. should I put them in a box?

I dont know what to do this is first time so many have grown on the sides in a bag for me.




That's a little late to change containers.  Why not just open the bag a little or poke a few holes in it for some FAE?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Cthulhu23]
    #26261731 - 10/18/19 06:35 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I'll see what to do.. wont fae result in contamination?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Takkaji]
    #26261738 - 10/18/19 06:41 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

No, once spawn is colonized its safe


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26261755 - 10/18/19 06:50 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

FEKKIN BET

I did it boys, my first successful grow without help ;-;


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Takkaji]
    #26261945 - 10/18/19 08:23 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

how does this look for 6 days? this is when I normally break them up and they will be colonized by day 11 or 12. is this a little slow?. each gallon of grain was inoculated with at least 150 ml of thick lc...


I might add some take 14+ days... I think it depends on the strength og the lc and how much I exactly pour per bag.


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Can someone help me please? [Re: Inocuole]
    #26262060 - 10/18/19 09:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hello everybody!! Im really sorry that i make.new topic just because of noob have some question.. But i really want like nothing else to my boys grow strong and healthly 🍄💙... So ... Firstable.. First time when i saw pins was 3 days ago.
Yesterdey night(somrlething like 00:00) they look : 



 



Now they look...
     

   

My question:do i making something wrong? Are my boys healthly? What first steps would You make if You are onmy position? I have mist last time 28 hours ago. I keep.them in bag with filter. (In instructon was writed that i dont have care about circulation) should i.give them some more FAE? Whats about humidity? Itw on 12/12 non direct sun light. Could You help me grow my boys the strongest please?💙💙🍄💚💚 btw.. Its smell like really good mushroom.. 🍄


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Re: Can someone help me please? [Re: Gitgit]
    #26262116 - 10/18/19 10:38 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Again, leave em alone.


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Re: Can someone help me please? [Re: Failboat]
    #26262128 - 10/18/19 10:48 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Im not discrediting Quirk here, but to me them appear to be suffering from insuffiant FAE. If it were me i wud increase fresh air exchange to some degree. And stop misting for now.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tombosley8] * 1
    #26262135 - 10/18/19 10:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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tombosley8 said:
how does this look for 6 days? this is when I normally break them up and they will be colonized by day 11 or 12. is this a little slow?. each gallon of grain was inoculated with at least 150 ml of thick lc...


I might add some take 14+ days... I think it depends on the strength og the lc and how much I exactly pour per bag.





Also just realized I'm only doing about 130 ml per bag but sometimes go up to 200+


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tombosley8]
    #26262223 - 10/19/19 12:31 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hey i gotta couple questions for the big strappers.

How long from spawn does APE generally take to pin?

Can mycogone and acremonium blend with cube myc?

If so, can these molds be detected once they blend with myc?

Are there any other contaminations which blend with cube myc?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26262456 - 10/19/19 06:36 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

What are people favourite way to prep white millet


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26262575 - 10/19/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I used to rinse them off Ed, then put it in the jar and cover with just enough water to just cover the seed and half a teaspoon gypsum and pc for 90 mins. The water in the jar would be absorbed into the grain, just make sure you shake it up good to distribute the moisture.

It’s been a while since I’ve had anything on grain but I seem to remember it worked well and very easy/quick way of prepping the millet avoiding a soak.

Think it’s this one


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