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pixelpopper
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26258770 - 10/17/19 02:31 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: After a multi spore first flush who removes all the aborts pins?
I never bother, unless they are decent enough size/quantity to warrant the work of saving
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26258817 - 10/17/19 02:54 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: After a multi spore first flush who removes all the aborts pins?
Depends on how many pins, more often then not those pins just lay dormant and can be your next flush, if it's just a few I'll pluck them and move on
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26258836 - 10/17/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought he was just asking about aborts... if we're just talking pins, then na I would never pick them
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper]
#26258842 - 10/17/19 03:05 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: After a multi spore first flush who removes all the aborts pins?
Depends, is it the size of the tip of my pinky or larger? Yes. Is it smaller? No.
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ShaperDreaming said:
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Edmunter said: After a multi spore first flush who removes all the aborts pins?
Depends, is it the size of the tip of my pinky or larger? Yes. Is it smaller? No.
I still find aborts and pins hard to tell apart
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26258861 - 10/17/19 03:18 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited
Also whats the best BE youve ever got from a grow? I heard peops talking bout 2oz per Q jar of spawn. How would that work if you used a ration of 3:1 cvg:spawn?
Edited by Edmunter (10/17/19 03:47 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26258862 - 10/17/19 03:19 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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If it's not dark it hasn't aborted...yet
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26258865 - 10/17/19 03:20 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah dark caps, and also they get pointy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26258867 - 10/17/19 03:20 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would you use 3:1, or did you mean 1:3? Spawn:cvg.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26258890 - 10/17/19 03:35 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: Also whats the best BE youve ever got from a grow? I heard peops talking bout 2oz per Q jar of spawn. How would that work if you used a ration of 3:1 cvg?
I'm not sure exactly how to get BE, but I aim for 350g+ first flush, 250g+ for second flush per myco quart. Giving me a total of 600g per two flushes, or just over 2 oz dried per myco quart. This is for regular cubes/non-mutants. My best across my first two flushes was just under 700g wet, but I don't always weigh things wet any more, just dry I may have out-performed that since then.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#26258895 - 10/17/19 03:37 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: Why would you use 3:1, or did you mean 1:3? Spawn:cvg.
You got it, does the amount of spawn change numbers? I missed the spawn bit
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26258903 - 10/17/19 03:42 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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3:1 (spawn:sub) sounds way too high in nutes to be a huge success. I even avoid 1:1 any more, as it tends to pump out mutants more likely than higher(lower?) ratios. My current rates are 1:1.5, and I like it since it keeps colonization fast, and fruits just as well as 1:2 (which is a few days slower) and it tends to not put out mutants as often as 1:1 does. It's my happy place. I talk about this in very extensive details in my shoebox assembly tek.
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1:2 is my go to but sometimes I Do 1:3
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You'll get more out of a qt at 1:4 then at 1:1. It depends on what you place a higher value on, space or spawn?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26258911 - 10/17/19 03:48 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: Edited
Also whats the best BE youve ever got from a grow? I heard peops talking bout 2oz per Q jar of spawn. How would that work if you used a ration of 3:1 cvg:spawn?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26259024 - 10/17/19 04:29 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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On the topic of picking pins after flush. For these two shoeboxes, should I just bottom water and throw the lid back on? There's a good bit of pins. I followed Sharper's shoebox tek, which calls for dunking after harvest. But I'm assuming that would be a waste with so many potential pins even after harvesting.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
#26259042 - 10/17/19 04:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edmunter said:
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Edmunter said: Edited
Also whats the best BE youve ever got from a grow? I heard peops talking bout 2oz per Q jar of spawn. How would that work if you used a ration of 3:1 cvg:spawn?
I can get around 200% with a couple of cultures with a bottle tek. Those numbers decline when I start to factor in bulk substrate because b.e. means everything used so I now factor in the 650 grams of coir
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26259079 - 10/17/19 04:50 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Regardless of what your gauge says, the rocker shouldn't rock until inside pressure is 15psi. The shape of the spout and rocker hole and weight of the rocker don't change no matter what elevation you're at.
That's my understanding of how the jiggler works but if I'm wrong then I'm wrong and welcome some input
The rocker hole actually can and does change after repeated uses, especially if running too hot. The common knowledge of "gauge = just an estimate, but weight = real PSI" is still accurate, but at some point, your weight can definitely max out <15.
My original weights had quarters taped to them adding to the wear and tear. They don't hold 15 now, even with something on top of it, because the hole is now warped and wider.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26259087 - 10/17/19 04:54 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Huh... i dnt knw wht my ratio is. 6qts spawn 1000g coir 5qts verm 5.5qts water 100qt tub I was doing 8qts spawn but seemed too much. Can yall figure my ratio? This gypsy no good with number thinkings.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26259102 - 10/17/19 05:00 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Roughly 1:4 1000 grams I would put at roughly 15ish qts. Plus your verm
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