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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26250765 - 10/13/19 10:22 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

That R Mercer is crazy funny. Listened to the car salesman perv one.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smurfies]
    #26250770 - 10/13/19 10:25 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

None of u guys pre-seal??


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26250813 - 10/13/19 10:43 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Some do. Lotkid does. I don't


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26250838 - 10/13/19 11:08 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, he turned me onto it now I loveit!  used sleaves long ago butstopped with no issues. now I pre-seal.  a must for the steamer


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26250879 - 10/13/19 11:44 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Any canadians know a good place to buy bags? Should I buy from China? Is there somewhere in US that ships here?

I think I'm gonna try getting back into bags. Dealing with a shit load of quart jars is annoying AF. Plus I can fit more in a 23q presto per cycle if I use bags, right?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26250901 - 10/14/19 12:06 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: replyom]
    #26251159 - 10/14/19 06:26 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Morning printing.  The missus isnt impressed!



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26251374 - 10/14/19 09:13 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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I tried without sleeves and bags burst. My sleeves are already creased and can be inserted quickly. It's not a huge hassle. I was going to mention the sleeves aren't 100% necessary, but I still believe they make it easier overall so I decided not to.





How is an extra step that isn’t 100% necessary somehow easier? Not sure I follow that.

I had the same thought about the sleeves helping prevent them from popping but when I added them back into my prep it reduced the problem very slightly but didn't make a big difference.

Have you tried using a pillowcase to line the PC? Also makes it so you dont need a plate on too anymore if you roll the excess down and tie it up nice and tight


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26251388 - 10/14/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Morning printing.  The missus isnt impressed!







i feel like printing isn't really talked about so much, but really, prints are the currency of mushcult, right? and i fucking love printmaking, so...

ok, edmunter. here's why i don't get that approach. i assume you'll let them print a while, remove the glasses, chop up the foil, and fold em up. but the whole time they're printing, dust and such are settling on the foil in the spaces between the glasses, which is then folded up into intimate contact with the prints you're making.

not trying to pick on you in particular. i read tcs advising this approach, and it just doesn't make sense to me. i mean i know no print is perfect, but there are degrees of imperfect, yeah?

also, thank the missus. pick her some flowers next time you're out for some caps.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #26251417 - 10/14/19 09:39 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Morning printing.  The missus isnt impressed!







i feel like printing isn't really talked about so much, but really, prints are the currency of mushcult, right? and i fucking love printmaking, so...

ok, edmunter. here's why i don't get that approach. i assume you'll let them print a while, remove the glasses, chop up the foil, and fold em up. but the whole time they're printing, dust and such are settling on the foil in the spaces between the glasses, which is then folded up into intimate contact with the prints you're making.

not trying to pick on you in particular. i read tcs advising this approach, and it just doesn't make sense to me. i mean i know no print is perfect, but there are degrees of imperfect, yeah?

also, thank the missus. pick her some flowers next time you're out for some caps.




Mate, Im trying to clone these little fukkas and wild cyans are so hard its annoying.  The amount of bacteria on each so far has been phenomenal.  They are dirty!  So with this in mind I would never go from spore print to grains(i wouldnt anyway) and wouldn't expect anyone else to either.  If I was going to make spore syringes I would of printed in front of the flow hood.

What would you have done?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter] * 1
    #26251439 - 10/14/19 10:00 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

When I print I use a tub with a sheet of foil and I seal it for a couple days. Then I move the tub to a sterile space and cut and package them all at once.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #26251440 - 10/14/19 10:00 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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I tried without sleeves and bags burst. My sleeves are already creased and can be inserted quickly. It's not a huge hassle. I was going to mention the sleeves aren't 100% necessary, but I still believe they make it easier overall so I decided not to.





How is an extra step that isn’t 100% necessary somehow easier? Not sure I follow that.

I had the same thought about the sleeves helping prevent them from popping but when I added them back into my prep it reduced the problem very slightly but didn't make a big difference.

Have you tried using a pillowcase to line the PC? Also makes it so you dont need a plate on too anymore if you roll the excess down and tie it up nice and tight




Ive  hardly ever burst a bag because it wasnt lined or at all for that matter.  No rings or lids.  I can fit 9, 4# bags in my AA75x.  When I used to use a 941 I would sometimes burst or even melt bags if i let it over pressurize or let the flames ride.  Now I preseal with B filter bags with no issues


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26251450 - 10/14/19 10:08 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hi beautiful people, how's everyone doing?

I am trying to decide wether or not to go with shoeboxes with my next grow and i would love you people to give me your opinion on this.

First of all i want to have to give it the less maintenance possible. So i know shoeboxes and a dialed in monotub will both work great!

But i get a feeling that shoeboxes dont allow mushrooms to achieve their full potential and therefore grow shorter. only then is it when i start to consider using a monotub...

Needless to say the space requieremnts are much lower in shoeboxes and the may be stackable when mushrooms are not huge.. The taller i can get them is 17 cm by the way

So what would you advice? i got a 30 gram monster second flush but had to put a bag over it as it was about 17cm height. Bags are simple but not that neat..

So... What would you choose and why regarding your opinions and experience?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26251498 - 10/14/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

edmunter, i feel you, man. you're right. wild prints can be expected to be pretty gnarly no matter the weather. i meant to comment on the individual glass approach in general. agreed with spiritlands, using a tub to cover multiple printing caps at once. added benefits of being mobile and less tedious.

regardless, best wishes getting your clones to take.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #26251517 - 10/14/19 10:34 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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edmunter, i feel you, man. you're right. wild prints can be expected to be pretty gnarly no matter the weather. i meant to comment on the individual glass approach in general. agreed with spiritlands, using a tub to cover multiple printing caps at once. added benefits of being mobile and less tedious.

regardless, best wishes getting your clones to take.




Oh you mean the single glass approach.  My prints seem thicker when i do it this way.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26251672 - 10/14/19 11:51 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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What would you have done?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26251774 - 10/14/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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What would you have done?




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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26251779 - 10/14/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't matter? You can still use the basic method, and seems much more efficient all around that all those glasses... :justdontknow:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #26251797 - 10/14/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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i used to use sleeves but now think they don't help anything in any way. I have a huge bag of sleeves that i never use for anything




Early when I was trying to get the whole "bag in an SAB" thing down, I'd drape the part of the sleeve I pulled out over the top of the bag as a cover for me to fumble around and get the jar ready. I no longer find this optimal, but it worked. But I've run bags without them and they sealed up and popped. I'm sure I can keep fucking around with things to learn not to, but I already have sleeves and I'm not willing to sacrifice prep time, bags, sterilization time, and cool-down time to find the right circumstances to avoid them. 

I also like how easy the end of the bag makes it to extend and open up the bag without getting my hands near the mouth. These are things that probably don't matter as much in a hood, but useful in SAB.


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How is an extra step that isn’t 100% necessary somehow easier? Not sure I follow that.




Because the "extra step" takes like 2 seconds and prevents a bag bursting for me, which is a huge hassle and a massive waste of time I can't spare.


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I had the same thought about the sleeves helping prevent them from popping but when I added them back into my prep it reduced the problem very slightly but didn't make a big difference.

Have you tried using a pillowcase to line the PC? Also makes it so you dont need a plate on too anymore if you roll the excess down and tie it up nice and tight




If you still had popped bags even with sleeves then you're doing something else wrong. No,  I didn't look into using pillowcases or rolling bags and tying them. Those are extra steps that exceed my Tyvek sleeve so I don't see them as a plus. And I don't believe my PC/sterilizer needing to be lined was the issue, nor bags needing to be tied.

RE: Printing,

The small glasses covering the prints was never solid for me because it would just trap the moisture and I'd get a shitty print. The gills need evaporation to eject spores, don't they? I'd just use my SAB and cover armholes with a towel or spin it towards the wall.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26251821 - 10/14/19 01:15 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

One way I used to do prints was use the really small mason jars, put the cap on the bottom and the cut a piece of tyvek envelope to cover the top, held in place by screwing the ring lid on. So no center lid piece, just the tyvek allowing air exchange. Once printed you can remove the cap and leave the print to dry in the jar... I just left the prints in the jar till I was ready to use them.


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