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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper]
#26220183 - 09/30/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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quite possibly the best advice ive heard here:
Dont dry your hands out trying to get them squeaky clean
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26220194 - 09/30/19 11:15 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've definitely overcleaned hands too much before and got red irritated skin
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
#26220208 - 09/30/19 11:20 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its ok if theyre already covered in weed from rolling joints all morning tho
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26220287 - 09/30/19 11:54 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I work behind a bar and wash my hands all night and then come home a rewash them with irish spring before getting down to business, and my doctor says that it caused an eczema flare up. I didnt even know i fucking had eczema, i've NEVER had moisture problems with my skin. Just be careful, drying out your skin completely hurts like a fucking bitch. Couldnt even put gloves on
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26220555 - 09/30/19 02:02 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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So after doing some more agar transfers & paying close attention, I've realized that part of my problems with getting wedges off the blade come when I make the agar too thin in the dish. So there isn't enough agar to cut the blade down into while the wedge snags off onto the agar. Instead the blade will barely cut into the thin layer of agar with the agar surface just pushing the wedge up
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper]
#26220769 - 09/30/19 03:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ahha!...I feel like i knw what you mean, Pxlpr. A fat wedge has more weight and bulk. Little piece of puck wedge jst like a god damn booger stuck on ur finger. Damn you smart!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26220843 - 09/30/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone with experience care to give me a quick second opinion on my coir field capacity. To me it looks way too wet. But this is my first grow so I wanted an experienced second opinion.
Here is how it was. Definitely too wet in my eyes: be
Trying to figure it out for this spawn I'm about to use and future grows. Sorry for shoddy camera work.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26220876 - 09/30/19 04:37 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you'll be fine. You can throw some verm in it, mix it up and check again. You can keep doing this until it's where you want it. But again, I think you're fine. I like to use a liner if/ when my coir is on the wetter side.
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All right thanks for the feedback! I've got about 8 quarts ready to spawn to shoeboxes, so I'm going to vary my water content of the coir (run one as is, run one slightly wrung out, etc.) and see if I can get an idea of where I like it. They're MS grows, so unfortunately not directly comparable like a clone grow, but hopefully it will give me something to go off of in my next grow.
Would you say, even though it may be fine, that it is on the wetter side? Thanks mate!
Edit: I'm basing it off this thread: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25087462#25087462
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Gan]
#26220918 - 09/30/19 04:58 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes, a tad on the wet side but not detrimental in my opinion.
I like your idea of experimenting with the moisture content. Honestly though, ms grows are really a tough go when trying to figure that kinda shit out. Even clones can perform rather differently with even the slightest environmental changes.
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That's good to know though. I guess I couldn't really make a true comparison without doing the experiment with a true monoculture. I'll probably just slightly wring out my coir, spawn my jars, and let them do what they please. Appreciate the help
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26220955 - 09/30/19 05:13 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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GypsyCurse said: Ahha!...I feel like i knw what you mean, Pxlpr. A fat wedge has more weight and bulk. Little piece of puck wedge jst like a god damn booger stuck on ur finger. Damn you smart!
Well just to be clear, I mean the entire plate of agar being poured too thin, not the wedge of agar I am cutting out (which you want to be very small)
So, I cut a tiny wedge and transfer to the new dish. But the agar in the new dish has been poured too thin, so thin that the blade barely goes into it.
If my new plate has a thicker layer of agar, the blade can sink further down into it & this seems to allow the tiny wedge to come off the blade easier
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I have a clone that will take an extra week if the sub is over hydrated and yield shitty to boot, its pretty annoying to say the least. l I have high atmospheric humidity and get alot of condensation on the inside of my tubs so I make my coir dry af otherwise it gets swampy on the sides and corners, I dont use liners so it pools up or soaks in and thats always the spots where bacteria starts and usally trich follows.. I would definitely add come verm to that. My coir recipe is 4 gallons to 10lbs (4.5kilos) and depending on the batch of coir even that comes out a little wetter than I like sometimes.
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Hi again!
So... I made a transfer yesterday from a transfer that came from a very light print.
I poured the dishes, waited about 20 minutes for them to cool down sufficiently and then made the transfer.
After looking at the dish today i found that it has some "water" around the place where i made the transfer. But it doesent seem milky, just like plain water... Is it possible to have bacteria show up this way? Or maybe the agar was a bit warm and water condensed around the wedge?
I know time will tell, but still would like to know wether or not bacteria can show up transparent!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#26221004 - 09/30/19 05:34 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Happens sometimes, usually its fine but it will expose any bacteria that is present so can be a little annoying in that way.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
#26221058 - 09/30/19 06:02 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Yeah my plates will have that happen using the first week after making them. I would guess the little bit of energy/metabolism that is coming out of the myc is causing it. I even see a condensation spot form from the heat above the rice sized myc on the lid right after transfers. If it stays wet like that for more than three days or turned milky, I would start to be like .
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#26221083 - 09/30/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you both! thats what i suspected, hope it turns out being just water.
and even more so, hope that water evaporates quickly... (fuck you condensation)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#26221140 - 09/30/19 06:40 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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jbgtaa said: Since the sleeve is working this potential method is no longer something im thinking about but: How yould you feel about using one sheet to wrap a whole sleeve? I do this when im trashing a massive amount of used plates, and realized i probably could have done it with blank plates to save film
I would be nervous of that wrap job bumping around the plates too much. And then having to unwrap it to use it? And maneuver all of them? Eh, nah. I'd probably place stacks on PP5 quart lids and put the lid on upside down before I did that. Or just place the stack in a huge Ziploc carefully.
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TedsDead said: @stare: how long do they typically sit before use in your lab? No premature drying of media? My dishes will sometimes dry out and need tossi ng
I've used Pasty Plates that were months old and still fine. Definitely just used a stack of poured plates that was at least 2 months old, IIRC. No issues at all. I pour my plates a bit thicker than most, I think, but not by much.
PP's maintain foil and sit in 16 shoebox. Dishes get re-wrapped in the original sleeve in SAB and placed in 16 shoebox.
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AyePlus said: Happens sometimes, usually its fine but it will expose any bacteria that is present so can be a little annoying in that way.
That's a good thing. The biggest benefit to agar is it'll show your mistakes and stop you from using bad shit.
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 I would guess the little bit of energy/metabolism that is coming out of the myc is causing it. I even see a condensation spot form from the heat above the rice sized myc on the lid right after transfers.
That's from the heat of your blade.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Sankhara]
#26221257 - 09/30/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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pixelpopper said: Well just to be clear, I mean the entire plate of agar being poured too thin, not the wedge of agar I am cutting out (which you want to be very small)
So, I cut a tiny wedge and transfer to the new dish. But the agar in the new dish has been poured too thin, so thin that the blade barely goes into it.
If my new plate has a thicker layer of agar, the blade can sink further down into it & this seems to allow the tiny wedge to come off the blade easier
Oh i hear ya. Made a lotta sense to me.
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Fuckin' A, i cudnt agree more. Only time i like to see condensate is prime surface conditions, and i dnt thnk you'd call that condensate, but still fuck that shit in my plates! Does me no good. Makes it hard to see. Haven for bacteria and spreading shit around my plate. Always wind up with a stack that were the plates from top of cooling stacks, then when i store the bitches the plates on the top and bottom do that shit. That's what we get for not having an environmentally controlled laboratory. Dear Santa.....
Also like to add, that i seen contams pop up in fresh plates two weeks after pour. Plates justa sitting in a drawer, all wrapped up. Fuckers... Making me having to be more patient. Fukn bllsht.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
#26221281 - 09/30/19 08:13 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Work on your technique. Put them in a fresh Ziploc after wrapping and then in a clean tote.
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