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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26215790 - 09/28/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Jesus what a waste of blades!
This is a post by me from 5 months back:
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natedawgnow said: So last week I said I've been using the same scalpel blade for a couple years and some people wanted to know if it was black and mangled. Well stareatclouds was kind enough to send me a care package with a few fresh blades! Whoo! Being lazy can pay off haha
Anyway here's a comparison between a really old and well used blade and a new one

Legit I feel like I've been through a lot with that blade. Hundreds of plates and countless grows. All things must pass; Goodbye, old friend.
I put that new blade on right after that pic and this is it today

I'll probably use it another few months before changing it. If you fools are only using your blades once or twice, send them to me before throwing away 
The blade in the first pic grew many dozens of lbs before being replaced. Get ma damn moneys worth thats for sure
If I would've known a single blade lasts you years I'd have only sent you one. MAIL THOSE BACK, HOARDER!
I can't believe using a new blade nonstop. That's unreal. What is the issue with the flame running outside the SAB? I still use my small alcohol lamp (which you can make with baby food jar and nylon rope) and have never had an issue. Just don't set it above a pool of iso or whatever.
So you peel back the wrapper and snap it on in your SAB? On a non-sterile handle? That'd seem way sketchier to me than flaming.
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jbgtaa said: My qualm with flaming scalpel blades, and in particular the ones we use, is they are not only meant to be disposable, but they are flimsy as fuck. After a few flames mine are ready to snap, and that coupled with the open flame led me to stop doing that.
That's definitely not true of my blades so maybe yours just suck?
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How many times do you re use the blade? how many times do you think it's reasonably and practically acceptable to flame sterilize it, and how long do you wait for it to cool before touching the mycelium? surely the blade is still hot enough to damage the myc even a few seconds after flaming right?
I can use one for months for transfers, but wind up swapping to new for clones. It's easier to cut out and scrape the tissue with a brand new one, for sure, although I dislike brand new for transfers. Even after cooling the blade, it's still warm enough that wedges (especially big ones) can tear off or slide off with a sharp edge. There's better grip with duller blades, IMO. But I can get my blade red hot forever, I reckon.
Oh, and going straight from flame to tissue for clone is bad, IME. It melts the tissue to the blade and is impossible to remove.
I don't wait for the myc to cool. I almost always dip into the receiving plate to cool or don't at all. I've never noticed a difference.
My gloves get a spray + rub of iso every time they enter, my scalpel handle and blade gets wiped down religiously, and I have a specific order I wipe both hands in after a transfer (primary focus is dominant hand which left SAB, though).
For slants, I have X-acto handle/blades pre-sterilized in glass test tubes that I keep on hand in mason jars. My regular blade + flame has been reliable as well, but I like the one-time use for a slant.
If dullness is an issue, you can buy a sharpener and re-sharpen the blades, by the way. I bought one to resharpen my serrated knives I harvest tubs with and I'll run through scalpel blades once in a while (also for harvesting) without issue.
How come instead of throwing these away, you maybe wrap them in thick foil and sterilize for 10 in the PC? Why can't you have your own little sterilized blade jar to pull from?
Try out some Stare Sticks, mang.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#26215797 - 09/28/19 10:54 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ted those bongs necklaces are the white version of the black rapper chains but we originated they captivated just like most everything that is considered "black" Haha
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26215806 - 09/28/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also what's up Boog! I'll hit you back ASAP, brother!
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Not much just doing things Haha I have seen you been pretty active I enjoy seeing your knowledge spread my friend
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jbgtaa
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26215825 - 09/28/19 11:07 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Thsts cra cra
I take too many transfers I'd go through a box of 100 in a few weeks if I used a fresh blade for every xfer.
It's alot, i usually order a box every week. but its 5 dollars and i can use all that propane for dabbing 
Also stare, all of what you said is true, it's just easier for me, and most importantly makes ME feel comfortable using a new blade every time. I understand why yall do though, and i dont have any problem with that. Just a personal method. What dude said about throwing out plates definitely makes sense, because really i havent noticed the cost of the blades. And with amazon prime I can get them the day after ordering, idk it's just the way i like to do things.
I wouldnt recommend this method to everyone, but it's definitely and effective sterile technique for my circumstance.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26215833 - 09/28/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Been gone for a minute, back for a minute. You know how it is.
jbg,
Why don't you sterilize the blades again in the PC?
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natedawgnow
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J. Jack Flash said: really?
at $10/100, scalpel blades cost what, half to parity what one disposable petri dish costs? people don't bat an eye at tossing those by the dozen. how can anyone be criticized for treating blades precisely the same way? and blades have the added advantage of being perfectly, 100% recyclable.
10 bucks for 100 puts them right around 1.5 times the price of disposable petris at 80 or so bucks a box if you can find a good deal. So chucking 1 blade is tantamount to 1 petri.
If i could re use petris I would but i dont reuse them because I'm overly environmentally conscious. I reuse them because they can be reused and I see no point in throwing it away if it can be used more than once.
Oh shit, stare is right, I AM A HOARDER
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26215849 - 09/28/19 11:16 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: Ted those bongs necklaces are the white version of the black rapper chains but we originated they captivated just like most everything that is considered "black" Haha
Lol, yes! Soo true haahahaha. Thats why I dont wear it in public. Lol
Exactly nate! Thats why recycling is supposed to be the last resort cause its very a energy intensive process. If you really care about all that your house will surely look as white-trashy as mine cause youll have piles of crap that u plan on someday reusing. Lol
Well, trashy that is... Mine looks whitetrashy
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stareatclouds said: Been gone for a minute, back for a minute. You know how it is.
jbg,
Why don't you sterilize the blades again in the PC?
I just may start doing that. Also, in regards to brand, mine are the equivelent of dollar general brand blades, they have no brand name anywhere on them.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26215856 - 09/28/19 11:18 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just switched out the ones stare sent me. It def got it's use
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26215878 - 09/28/19 11:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha pretty soon if you ride a Harley then they will say what do you think you're black ?? Funny times in amuricka...
I just want a 1000 acre compound and grow on about 999 of them lmao
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26215897 - 09/28/19 11:34 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, if i thought that i wouldnt consider myself white trash... or would I?
Hope you got some slaves to help out boog!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26215902 - 09/28/19 11:36 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said:
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J. Jack Flash said: really?
at $10/100, scalpel blades cost what, half to parity what one disposable petri dish costs? people don't bat an eye at tossing those by the dozen. how can anyone be criticized for treating blades precisely the same way? and blades have the added advantage of being perfectly, 100% recyclable.
10 bucks for 100 puts them right around 1.5 times the price of disposable petris at 80 or so bucks a box if you can find a good deal. So chucking 1 blade is tantamount to 1 petri.
If i could re use petris I would but i dont reuse them because I'm overly environmentally conscious. I reuse them because they can be reused and I see no point in throwing it away if it can be used more than once.
Oh shit, stare is right, I AM A HOARDER 
here i stand corrected. and i'm not arguing, just innocently correcting your math. $10/100blades = $0.10/blade << $80/500plates = $0.16/dish
but you're right. i approve and respect the reuse everything possible, to the point of madness trying to make polypropylene petri dishes work. just felt a little cognitive dissonance is all. cheers, my people.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead] 1
#26215905 - 09/28/19 11:37 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha naw I dont trust anyone to be a slave for me unless you're talking about sexxy women slaves Haha... I am not even saying it against blacks it's the whites that make the biggest noise about acting a certain way and racism
I have black friends who say fuck I ain't no African who the fuck wants to live there those mother fuckers will cut your arms off Haha
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
#26215922 - 09/28/19 11:47 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eh, cant even trust the people i pay for help. Anyone with competence is busy enough with their own shit it seems
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47] 2
#26215926 - 09/28/19 11:49 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wrap my spent plates together in stacks of 2-3 for little "levels" in my SAB to set plates on, above the little towel. They also balance and level things I need. The bottom of the 66 quarts bows outward when the sub is in it, making it crack if you lay it on a flat surface. I use extra tub lids, but I'm sure old petris might withstand 1 tub?
Hell, they can be used for anything. verum runs through 21536530848 plates a month. And being the eco-conscious bastard he is, finds uses for them for everything. He'll show up to hang sipping coffee out of a petri bottom. Go out for drinks, he breaks out a stack of old dishes and voila, everyone has a cool coaster. Shit, when the bill comes, he'll pull a petri from the back pocket stuffed with cash. Come Christmas time, well, your gift is a wrapped, vertical stack of mystery, ever year. Oh well.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
#26215934 - 09/28/19 11:53 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah man it's hard to find good help I rather not allow anyone to irritate me to dislike them anymore then I already do Haha
That is another reason I also want a 1000 acre compound
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J. Jack Flash said:
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natedawgnow said:
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J. Jack Flash said: really?
at $10/100, scalpel blades cost what, half to parity what one disposable petri dish costs? people don't bat an eye at tossing those by the dozen. how can anyone be criticized for treating blades precisely the same way? and blades have the added advantage of being perfectly, 100% recyclable.
10 bucks for 100 puts them right around 1.5 times the price of disposable petris at 80 or so bucks a box if you can find a good deal. So chucking 1 blade is tantamount to 1 petri.
If i could re use petris I would but i dont reuse them because I'm overly environmentally conscious. I reuse them because they can be reused and I see no point in throwing it away if it can be used more than once.
Oh shit, stare is right, I AM A HOARDER 
here i stand corrected. and i'm not arguing, just innocently correcting your math. $10/100blades = $0.10/blade << $80/500plates = $0.16/dish
but you're right. i approve and respect the reuse everything possible, to the point of madness trying to make polypropylene petri dishes work. just felt a little cognitive dissonance is all. cheers, my people.
Ya that should read that the petris are 1.5 times the price of blades but I'm sure through context that was obvious
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26215996 - 09/28/19 12:16 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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the price doesnt really matter at this point in time, because it's one of the only things i have to spend money on regularly. I bought x3 50bags of oats last time, x2 500 case celltreats, 2 rolls of parafilm, a ton of 3 packs of eco earth... The cost is negligible. Theyre stainless steel, wont it degrade? They rust in about 10hrs if left wet, im sure they disintegrate in the salty sea.
Im trying to get some LC experience under my belt so that i can lower my plastic usage but that's obviously going to take a minute to get under control.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: jbgtaa]
#26216023 - 09/28/19 12:28 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do like celltreat and eco earth stuff. These #11's are flimsy af. If im pouring plates and i have 2 blanks left i toss 'em. If i have 4 left i'll wrap them im plastic and use them nxt time i pour. It's a good day. Fucking cold though. Gonna get some wbs and a box of doughnuts and tell the world to suck it, go back to sleep. Prolly spy my plates, get ultra super mega loaded, drink lacroix till i piss myself, smoke more dabs. Yup...good day. In fact, imma puff right god damn now and go right back to dreamland till bout 3pm.
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